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  • An update on the HHOi and Rick's cell from HydrogenSolutionsCenter.

    http://pesn.com/2010/09/27/9501707_H...water_and_air/

    Sterling makes a jump on the Rick cell technology and its almost like the Freddy Cell in some instances.
    Good reading and more information.

    It seems there may be a link to pressurizing the cell to 60PSI.
    Also noted are some easy tests on the HHOi type, balloon tests to see if the balloon will float or drop.
    Pay attention to the warning of sharp edges where static charges can build up.

    Care must be taken, but it seems a door is opening a little wider.
    Last edited by adam_mizer; 09-27-2010, 11:40 PM. Reason: Link not working

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    • Originally posted by adam_mizer View Post
      An update on the HHOi and Rick's cell from HydrogenSolutionsCenter.

      http://pesn.com/2010/09/27/9501707_H...water_and_air/

      Sterling makes a jump on the Rick cell technology and its almost like the Freddy Cell in some instances.
      Good reading and more information.

      It seems there may be a link to pressurizing the cell to 60PSI.
      Also noted are some easy tests on the HHOi type, balloon tests to see if the balloon will float or drop.
      Pay attention to the warning of sharp edges where static charges can build up.

      Care must be taken, but it seems a door is opening a little wider.
      A correction is already posted...

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      • Freddys cell

        Here's a nice video Freddy made the other day, worth watching.

        It appears Adam and Jim came by with a single tube set Adam is working on.
        An acoustically resonant tube-set (1 pair), the MX068 PWM modified for 14.7hz, DMM connected in series to battery post reading amperage, a 4 gallon bucket of water and 2 teaspoons of KOH.

        Watch it as it produces its own power after the threashold was reached then backed off PWM current!
        Threshold 3 amp then back off to .025 (25milli-amp power running PWM board).

        Truelly Amazing. (My jaw dropped as here is something that appears as a gift).

        Last week I just had to visit Fred and his wife. Real people with heart's of gold. God bless!
        I enjoyed my visit, talked, checked out the shop, helped out a little - yada yada.

        YouTube - FutureEnergyConcepts's Channel

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        • If someone would put this a bit more in layman's terms, please? I seem to see electrolysis in a single (tuned?) tube, but what's now making the electricity to drive the PWM circuit? Where's the feedback? I think I only know the kind where the produced gasses are combusted in an engine of some kind, with an alternator attached. Is there a short cut now? That would mean the end of expensive H producing stations, right? The H fuel cell car becomes 1000* more viable at once. I just don't get it yet.
          Thanks,

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          • Freddy's cell

            Yes its a tuned resonant tube-set.

            Can't fully remember but do believe this tube-set is 1/2 wave tuned and the 2pipes (tubes) are tuned to each other acoustically.
            Freddy already did all the math for "us" the tuning and pipe sizes as I posted in an earlier post. Freddy's math matched as best as possible the 1/2wave and the acoustic tuned frequencys when in water. This vary's slightly as there is now gas and water, acoustic frequency and electric DC current and low voltage pulse wave.
            The acoustic resonant tuning was based on a fundamental of the primary frequency of the tubes vibrational ringing. Truelly a mathematic cranium would have to figure this out. (More involved than I can put into my head).

            The PWM as I understand is set at 14.7hz and the circuit of the MX068 was slightly modified to enable this slow pulse change.

            I learned something simple that I never even thought about what it would do.

            The fact that the 1 pipe is taller than the other and not flush together at the tops creates an ionization, basically a low form of plasma gas is made, (I say low because it can and will go beyond what we see), apparently it also charges the water to the extreme that it becomes self powering and keeps releasing gases from the water as it created the cascading effect. Plates and pulsed DC current were doing general electrolysis to start, but when water is charged to the threshold Freddy pointed out has enough force to maintain a resonant condition in this cell and use the energy from the water that seems to be multiplying as its force almost appears stronger when the current pulse is basically turned off. "Amazing!"
            Now you have tuned tubes 1/2wave RF and acousto-mechanical, apparently there is more power locked in these atoms than we may not know about. This system taps into that energy, as it is very hard to explain its real workings because it hasn't been done to often and is not a particular energy form that is taught through-out the world but has been done in our government controlled science programs.

            We have some strong brains here at Energetic Forum that could do a much better job at these explainations we seek.
            It is real easy to state this has been supressed for many many years.

            Here is a email I copied from another member at a yahoo forum, hope, and don't think he would mind me reposting this:

            Possible Theories

            - Negative Resistor, transforming the local vacuum energy into charged particles. Tom Bearden, John Bedini, and many other scientists have written about this type of energy for decades.

            - Fusion, Freddy and Adam's initial theory. Fusion also typically generates lots of heat (millions of degrees), in addition to neutron, helium and other produces of fusing atoms. A simple detector can confirm if fusion products are being emitted.

            - Cold Fusion, but instead of OU Heat, creating OU Gas production. Lots of CF theories but mostly on explaining where the "excess heat" energy comes from. I do not know of any CF researcher that claimed excess hydrogen gas production instead of excess heat.

            - Lots of other theories from ZPE (Moray King) to Orgone Energy (Reich), to Ether Energy (Tesla).

            Take your pick on which theory you subscribe to. More research and experimenting will narrow it down eventually. We are just at the start of this energy discovery. As more people do the experiments, more data can be analyzed to determine the best theory of operation.



            We just need to wrap our heads around this and get going, slowly the replications and tests will start to show up.

            I'm not a salesman but a PDF will be released soon and I suggest get this PDF when it becomes available as the whole build will be in there.
            Last edited by adam_mizer; 10-21-2010, 12:01 AM. Reason: some information missing

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            • This Freddy is a GENIUS !!!

              Regards, Penno

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              • There's an intersting page on Meyer and Puharich here:

                Water as Fuel with Puharich and Meyer | Energy Research

                It includes measurements of a.o. the capacitance of a WFC.

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                • See also:
                  Meyer’s Gas Core Transformer | Energy Research

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                  • Resonance

                    Hi guys this is very interesting. It shows that resonance of tubes is the key maybe if one tune in harmony if more than two tubes would achieve same or better results. Would like Freddy to answer this.
                    Thanks

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                    • Apparently he mentions some catalyst in the electrolyte to help and states that's only going to be in the PDF
                      Here is a new vid guys
                      YouTube - flame test at 80 psi

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                      • Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
                        Apparently he mentions some catalyst in the electrolyte to help and states that's only going to be in the PDF
                        Here is a new vid guys
                        YouTube - flame test at 80 psi
                        Freddy is on the right track and I say this not to say that I am superior to Freddy. Just that Freddy is in reality attempting to replicate the work of the deceased Stanley Meyer and Mr. Meyer never used ANY catalyst of any kind. He was able to achieve the results that Freddy is after without the use of electrolytes of any kind and without the need for distilled water.

                        I am confident that Freddy will surely be able to demonstrate another vehicle that runs solely on water (distilled water with an electrolyte) and from there, others should be able to improve on Freddy’s setup to the point where eventually, distilled water will not be required any longer. Distilled water is relatively inexpensive and Freddy’s previous vehicle got well over 300 miles to the gallon of distilled water. So the price of distilled water at that kind of mileage will always remain cheaper when compared to the price of petroleum based fuels.

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                        • He was able to do it again...check his latest Video

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                          • Originally posted by ianenergy View Post
                            He was able to do it again...check his latest Video
                            You are indeed correct. I stand corrected This does not surprise me in the least. The tube tuning was when I saw that he had a good deal of Meyer's secrets down. To get rid of the electrolyte, he'll need some electronic adaptation.

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                            • Tuning

                              Nice video Freddy. What if the tubes are left untouched in water from the bottom so that they are not muted as if?
                              I mean hanging.
                              Thanks
                              Last edited by Guruji; 11-25-2010, 09:45 PM.

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                              • Guys that quote about a catalyst which may be helping the reaction is from Peswiki, apparently it will be mentioned in his how too PDF

                                Ash

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