None Electrolytic Splitting Of H2o

[Slovenia]

Thanks!!

Thanks, you are doing a great job

Mike

Thanks Mike. I'm glad to help.

[ZeroMassInertia]

Mike thanks for all the great info.
Would it be possible to construct a tunable balun for the antennas.The interaction of the RF may be hard to confine to the cell.I am thinking of using 146mhz and 876mhz. Any ideas or help on the construction of the baluns is appreciated.

[Get123OnWithIt]

Thanks Mike!

Gary

[tutanka]

Another point is that as such we do not create atomic nitrogen, it is vibrationally excited nitrogen, the molecular structure as I SEE IT is elongated to the point of breaking, this is when it is at its most vunerable and the atomic H and O then do their job of splitting it and joining with it before the H and O can turn to H2 and O2.

I hope I have explained this for those that do not see what is happening.

Mike

Mike,
Tonight I have think a lot on your words and I have little question for you..

Ammonia as you know is NH3 ---> N+H+H+H and as you know N2O is produced every from nitrogen atomic N+NO--->N2O

In ammonia.. one nitrogen atom bond with three hydrogen atom.. and only using nitrogen in atomic state you can create ammonia.

Haber method use N2 and H2 directly without Oxygen.. with high temps and pressures

From here I see clear that... STEAM RESONATOR and GAS PROCESSOR of Meyer now make sense.
Why Meyer mix gas ionized after and do not mix nitrogen molecular togheter inside water crack process??

For reference I attach here heterodyning working .. maybe can help to understand STEAM RESONATOR

[Vickers]

Hey Tut, This is why process must be micro sized. H is very very very very very small.
Meyer realized this as u know. Need high voltage field. No plasma no sparks.
Fuel is atmospheric air. Can produce many fuels from this combination.
Air is very underestimated and loosely defined.

[tutanka]

Hey Tut, This is why process must be micro sized. H is very very very very very small.
Meyer realized this as u know. Need high voltage field. No plasma no sparks.
Fuel is atmospheric air. Can produce many fuels from this combination.
Air is very underestimated and loosely defined.

Hello,
I don't agree completely with you .. air is important part in the process because contain 78% of nitrogen molecular. Nitrogen humidified is the right component for obtain green fuel. Of course.. probably there are two ways for obtain the same fuel using HV and/or RF. In all case ammonia/nitrous oxide is for me the green fuel of future!!

[Vickers]

Nitrogen molecular?

[tutanka]

Nitrogen molecular?

Yes.. nitrogen extracted from air is molecular. As I have previously written nitrogen/water is an special stechiometric mixture for obtain NH3/N2O. But you don't need more water for that you need only nitrogen humidified. The heterodyne image that I have posted is good for brain because you can understand how the process work. In INPUT you have nitrogen humidified, sended trought the alternate energetic field that you can obtain electrically and/or with radio waves, in OUTPUT you have NH3/N2O. IMPORTANT.... the distilled water used in process must be with PH <7 if you want obtain NH3. , if your PH >7 YOU OBTAIN THE DANGEROUS HYDRAZINE!!

[Vickers]

Yes.. I understand. I wish more people here would listen to u my friend. What u say is very simple and true.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

This is what is going on in the back room

Hi All I thought I would just post this to show what is going on in the back room so to say, but will be supressed, read last paragraph for that.

Please note what the frequency was in this and the power, 300w. This is excess power for what you need to do this. I have given in open source the principle of how it is done in a lower power by using heterodyning, TWO frequencies hitting one another at a power rating of 20w. What I do find interesting is the base frequency of around 13.56MHz, just look at the flame temperature.

Now it is confirmed here that the water takes on a structural change and I can confirm that if the water is in vapour, increasing the radiated surface area, and mixed with N2, nitrogen, the structural change that takes place is the bonding of the hydrogen to nitrogen and oxygen to nitrogen. Care has to be taken that the ratios produce the required gases at the POINT of irradiation of the mix.

Nitrogen is the most difficult to change and as so part is changed to its atomic form, while part is unchanged at these powers but bonds with the atomic oxygen to form N2O, the atomic form N bonds with its atomic partner H and forms NH3. Care has to be taken that N2H4 is not produced and that is where NaCl, salt, comes in to control the change.

Once set up correctly, water vapour will change instantly into the required gases and as so the RF has to be switched to control the amount of gas required at any one time.

I must stress that I do not take ANY responsibility for anyone who does this as I have said before time and time again. This is getting into the big world game and I feel for the people I love, please please if you do this, do so with responsibility.

Mike

[psm1963]

I spoke yesterday with inventor of patent 7,378,063. I asked him if he had a prototype to view but he said no. I asked him if has licensed the tech and he said navy is looking at it. He said he also submitted it to Honda and Toyota. He didn't seem to be that technical to me and did not offer the genesis of the invention, like it was the culmination of his life's work or something. He is an older guy and said he used to work on nose cones for missiles for some defense contrator before he retired. He is 83 years old. He mentioned some Canadian company offered to build all components of device for him if he bought 50 or more. I wish I had gotten the name of that company because this group might be able to get together a bulk order.

I asked him what kind of output the device puts out and he could not give me specifics. I would expect that the inventor would have some type of general ideas about this. I mean this may work for all we know and I believe Mike when he describes this stuff, but up til now I do not have any idea about the volumes of gas converted in what looks like a 5 gallon bucket filled with 1/3 water and a shower/fogger device. Any general ballpark, Mike, is it 1 liter, 10, or 50 per minute. In my mind if such a setup could not produce at least 15-30 liter/min then it might no be worth pursuing. Just my 2 cents.

Also, this type of stuff dovetails in a way with Frank Znidarsics work and both Poletnkov? and cold fusion experiments show unique type of impedance matching and resonances being caused by radio excitation. I think he refers to it as activated plasmonics....

[Michael John Nunnerley]

I spoke yesterday with inventor of patent 7,378,063. I asked him if he had a prototype to view but he said no. I asked him if has licensed the tech and he said navy is looking at it. He said he also submitted it to Honda and Toyota. He didn't seem to be that technical to me and did not offer the genesis of the invention, like it was the culmination of his life's work or something. He is an older guy and said he used to work on nose cones for missiles for some defense contrator before he retired. He is 83 years old. He mentioned some Canadian company offered to build all components of device for him if he bought 50 or more. I wish I had gotten the name of that company because this group might be able to get together a bulk order.

I asked him what kind of output the device puts out and he could not give me specifics. I would expect that the inventor would have some type of general ideas about this. I mean this may work for all we know and I believe Mike when he describes this stuff, but up til now I do not have any idea about the volumes of gas converted in what looks like a 5 gallon bucket filled with 1/3 water and a shower/fogger device. Any general ballpark, Mike, is it 1 liter, 10, or 50 per minute. In my mind if such a setup could not produce at least 15-30 liter/min then it might no be worth pursuing. Just my 2 cents.

Also, this type of stuff dovetails in a way with Frank Znidarsics work and both Poletnkov? and cold fusion experiments show unique type of impedance matching and resonances being caused by radio excitation. I think he refers to it as activated plasmonics....

No he would not be able to give you any figures as he never made it, designed it or anything else. Enough said on that as I do not want to get into a legal battle. I am giving this information for free. OK as for the amount of gas, well a 25ltr tank with about 5ltrs of water in it and using an antenna aray giving out 20watts, 10 + 10w, will give sufficient gas to convert to 4Kw of electrical energy when used in a gas turbine fitted with a 5kw generator.

The gas was predominantly NH3 and N2O, a small amout of other nitrous oxides were seen but in a minority. In this patent you are talking about, there is missing information, it states for the production of H2 and O2 and the separation thereof. This is not what was done in 1989, it appeared to be but the full system always remained with me and NOW it is with you

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

container size

I realised after the above post that the container size is not important, it was what I had at the time, also the amount of water is not important, what is important is the amount of water vapour you can produce and from that you can calculate the volume of gas produced FOR CONVERTION to NH3 and N2O as it also depends on the amount of N2 in the system.

Actual ltrs per minute were never calculated at that time.

Mike

[psm1963]

I realised after the above post that the container size is not important, it was what I had at the time, also the amount of water is not important, what is important is the amount of water vapour you can produce and from that you can calculate the volume of gas produced FOR CONVERTION to NH3 and N2O as it also depends on the amount of N2 in the system.

Actual ltrs per minute were never calculated at that time.

Mike

Thanks for the input Mike. While I'm fascinated with the potential of this device I would love for you to detail your thought/experiment process in its development. Were you studying Rife tech at the time? Influenced by Meyer/Puharich? Worked in the Radio/engeineering field like Kansius did? It would be a lesson to inventors everywhere how a crreative process comes together from inspiration and external inputs.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Thanks for the input Mike. While I'm fascinated with the potential of this device I would love for you to detail your thought/experiment process in its development. Were you studying Rife tech at the time? Influenced by Meyer/Puharich? Worked in the Radio/engeineering field like Kansius did? It would be a lesson to inventors everywhere how a crreative process comes together from inspiration and external inputs.

I am just on 60yrs old, I am an industrial engineer, I am also a radio HAM, G6GVA was my last call sign in England, now have another as I do not live there any more. Puharich was the closest and first, Meyer in the end with his injection copied him as he could never get enough out of electrolysis to run an engine, it had to be another gas and he new it and kept it to himself. I am re inventing the wheel as to say with a few differences as I do understand the workings more than they did, not bosting, just a fact, and this has been kept a secret for a long time, now it is out and many other things will come out, that I am sure of. Enjoy the ride, it will give you quite a buzzzzzzzz.

Mike