None Electrolytic Splitting Of H2o

[wolf234]

I am pleased to see the great soul here-we need N membrane and 4 stroke engine? thanks to all

[Harvey]

Engine

I wonder if this could be adapted to run the NH3 :
Watch "AVEC Axial Vector Engine" Video at Engineering TV

Personally I would like to see a Tesla Turbine application

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Hi Mike,

I had a look at that article you posted in #416 - Submitted in Oct 2008 and not accepted until Apr 2010 (after revisions). Yeah, I'd say something was probably being suppressed there, trying to get the verbiage just right or something. Makes you wonder what was revised

[sosolar]

Posting Of James Tracy's Material

tutanka does not have the legal permission to post any of James Tracy's material.

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None of this is your own work. I hesitate to reveal to your peers what is going on here out of kindness, but you are aware fully and you must cease and desist.

Thank you in advance for your kind cooperation in removing your postings.

[tutanka]

tutanka does not have the legal permission to post any of James Tracy's material.

Alessandro, please be advised that we will take whatever legal action is necessary to cease your publishing of material you are attributing to Mr. Tracy.

None of this is your own work. I hesitate to reveal to your peers what is going on here out of kindness, but you are aware fully and you must cease and desist.

Thank you in advance for your kind cooperation in removing your postings.

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[superman9976]

Circuits

Hi Mike,

This is my first post on this thread. I was at the conference listening intently to every word you said and was taking notes. It was all so fascinating! I have been looking at Stan Meyer stuff since 2002. It all started when someone said they could get 100 mpg with a carburetor so I started looking online and came up with some designs but nothing of value to actually build something out of it. I began talking to my dad and my brother Jon about this type of technology. My dad was heavy into electronics, building machines, repairing all types of things, and he was also a Ham n9kxa. He would build all sorts of antennas. The last one he built was to receive transmissions from all over the world. He took a used city light pole and developed a cable system to help hinge it down to the ground and back up for periodic maintenance and just so he could put it up. It must have stood at least 50 to 60 ft tall. The radio ran at 220v and I forgot how many amps it drew but it was a high power radio. I was always impressed by my dad's knowledge that's why I brought him into this new technology so we could work together on it. My dad sadly passed in early 2008. My brother Jon was also at the conference listening and recording your conversation. He has an electronics degree but still I can only understand so much as I go along. I am trying to learn as much as possible and my brother only knows so much as well.
As I read through the posts I found the ones about the parts list. I tracked down all the parts and am ready to order. The only problem is I wouldn't know how to configure them. A schematic would be great if you could give us an idea of how this parts go together? Maybe Gary the guy we met Sunday could help in this area too? I know he's very intelligent from what I have seen. Now with RF circuits if say I go and build this I will have very different results then the next guy since the components have to be arranged just right? Even the distance between the components in one circuit can only be so long correct? Would it be a good idea to have a circuit board copper etched for consistency in the arrangement of the circuit? Would you happen to have a template of something like this? If I could get something to work that would definitely get the proof of concept across. I think you were talking of streamlining this device in the near future would it be better if I wait till that happens? My goal though is to completely understand the concepts and how to make it work and even build it from memory so no one can take that power away. I don't wanna be the guy in the earlier posts that patented this concept and has no knowledge of how it works.
I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving,
Chris

[Aaron]

plasma and regular water

Chris,

Are you in the same place as Chad - the other one besides you and your
brother that were at the Tesla Charger table when we were talking about
plasma ignitions?

Not sure if you have been through the water sparkplug thread here in the
forum, about the most popular thread we have, Greg (Gmeast) got 43mpg
in a vw, which happened to also be 43% increase above what he got.

He used the plasma ignition and simply had water dripping on his exhaust
manifold to make a bit of steam and that was ducted back to the intake
with some kind of pipe.

So the plasma ignition and a bit of plain water injection alone does
wonders. You might find that thread interesting.

Not 100mg like a pogue carburetor, but 43% increase is powerful!

[superman9976]

Thanks Aaron I will check it out! I guess anything is better then nothing. The only bad thing is that I am still using gasoline and the price will continue to rise along with natural gas which I use to heat my house. I have very high hopes of figuring out this RF splitting of H2O so I can start saving some real money! That Mag heater at the conference looked very promising but not out yet. Are you understanding everything that is going on in the RF circuits and able to replicate it? I know what your saying that the plasma ignition is more at my level of understanding along with Jon and Chad's. It just seems like I am so close to something that can really change my life so my excitement and interests are peaked.

[Aaron]

plasma and rf

Thanks Aaron I will check it out! I guess anything is better then nothing. The only bad thing is that I am still using gasoline and the price will continue to rise along with natural gas which I use to heat my house. I have very high hopes of figuring out this RF splitting of H2O so I can start saving some real money! That Mag heater at the conference looked very promising but not out yet. Are you understanding everything that is going on in the RF circuits and able to replicate it? I know what your saying that the plasma ignition is more at my level of understanding along with Jon and Chad's. It just seems like I am so close to something that can really change my life so my excitement and interests are peaked.

Hi Chris,

I'm not saying that the plasma circuit is more at your "level of
understanding" - it is just a crucial part of this whole process that
is simple to replicate and anyone that is interested in the whole water
fuel deal should at least experiment at some level with the plasma circuits
because they are straightforward. Even if you have the rf circuit in
your hands and have the right fuel, you still need to run the engine on
plasma.

On the RF circuits, in concept, I get what is going on but I personally
lack the experience to build a circuit following rf protocols myself. It is
quite an art all in itself.

Personally, I do want to learn the rf circuit building methods and have to
start somewhere. I'm thinking if more people get into the ham radio
world and get at least their basic technical license it is a good start. That
will not qualify someone to start building rf circuits but is a good pretext
to get moving in the right direction to get more interested in antennas,
tuning, etc...

I've never had much of an interest in rf circuits until I learned about this
process from Mike.

[Get123OnWithIt]

superman9976 check your PM

Maybe Gary the guy we met Sunday could help in this area too?

Hello Chris and Jon,

Guys - check your PMs.

Cheers,

Gary

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Hi Mike,

This is my first post on this thread. I was at the conference listening intently to every word you said and was taking notes. It was all so fascinating! I have been looking at Stan Meyer stuff since 2002. It all started when someone said they could get 100 mpg with a carburetor so I started looking online and came up with some designs but nothing of value to actually build something out of it. I began talking to my dad and my brother Jon about this type of technology. My dad was heavy into electronics, building machines, repairing all types of things, and he was also a Ham n9kxa. He would build all sorts of antennas. The last one he built was to receive transmissions from all over the world. He took a used city light pole and developed a cable system to help hinge it down to the ground and back up for periodic maintenance and just so he could put it up. It must have stood at least 50 to 60 ft tall. The radio ran at 220v and I forgot how many amps it drew but it was a high power radio. I was always impressed by my dad's knowledge that's why I brought him into this new technology so we could work together on it. My dad sadly passed in early 2008. My brother Jon was also at the conference listening and recording your conversation. He has an electronics degree but still I can only understand so much as I go along. I am trying to learn as much as possible and my brother only knows so much as well.
As I read through the posts I found the ones about the parts list. I tracked down all the parts and am ready to order. The only problem is I wouldn't know how to configure them. A schematic would be great if you could give us an idea of how this parts go together? Maybe Gary the guy we met Sunday could help in this area too? I know he's very intelligent from what I have seen. Now with RF circuits if say I go and build this I will have very different results then the next guy since the components have to be arranged just right? Even the distance between the components in one circuit can only be so long correct? Would it be a good idea to have a circuit board copper etched for consistency in the arrangement of the circuit? Would you happen to have a template of something like this? If I could get something to work that would definitely get the proof of concept across. I think you were talking of streamlining this device in the near future would it be better if I wait till that happens? My goal though is to completely understand the concepts and how to make it work and even build it from memory so no one can take that power away. I don't wanna be the guy in the earlier posts that patented this concept and has no knowledge of how it works.
I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving,
Chris

Hi Chris, hold fire on buying anything at the moment as each part of the system is being designed and made as I type. I have been doing a lot of work on this as well as others in different parts of the world, so as to bring together what you might say is a type of plug, plumb and play system depending on what you want to power with the fuel.

The concept is straight forward, but to build is difficult if you do not understand the art, like most things. The RF part is for sure an art as is the antenna reactor construction, albeit a proof of concept could be made with very basic components, I think what people really want is a full working system to run a generator or car etc.

My idea is to have these parts available and you put them together as a complete system, that way it can't be stopped easly by the powers that be, because YOU are putting them together for private use. Please do not ask me how much and when, that will be forth coming in the very near future. The proof of concept will be shown as a full working model, and that is being built and has been for the last 6-9 months and should be ready for very early 2011. Yes it is taking time as even the engine has been built from scratch and that is now working and I must say a very fine job done on that.

For those that have bought RF components for this already, I will give what information that is needed to get that part working for a proof of concept, for this please PM me with your e-mail direction for those that have not got mine at the moment.

Mike

[jibbguy]

Sorry to break into this wonderful thread (imo, it is a great example of what Open Source can accomplish), but i saw this and thought it may be of interest to those who heard that Meyer used lasers at some point to increase "thermal explosive energy" to the gas mix... this news would seem to point to the fact that it can indeed be done, as one would suspect that "ionizing argon" would be similar to ionizing other so-called inert gasses ("Nitrogen" comes to mind ).

Extreme lasers at work

[Michael John Nunnerley]

LEDs

Sorry to break into this wonderful thread (imo, it is a great example of what Open Source can accomplish), but i saw this and thought it may be of interest to those who heard that Meyer used lasers at some point to increase "thermal explosive energy" to the gas mix... this news would seem to point to the fact that it can indeed be done, as one would suspect that "ionizing argon" would be similar to ionizing other so-called inert gasses ("Nitrogen" comes to mind ).

Extreme lasers at work

He was using LEDS but the energy level of these would be like trying to swat a bird with one of it's own feathers.

Real lasers on this scale use a lot of energy, now what works is an electron beam which is especially made for the job, but thats another story and work in progress you might say

Mike

[dielectric]

I've never had much of an interest in rf circuits until I learned about this
process from Mike.

I'm in the same boat as you Aaron. However I had a couple of semesters of RF circuitry schooling back when I was getting my EE degree, but I never took any interest in the subject. I wouldn't mind if I could somehow be of help with this project.
Mike, I'm sure you already know you have a small army of people ready willing to help out at the drop of a hat. Hooray for the salvation of the internet!


Gary I sent you a PM.

-Jon

[psm1963]

Mike, did you tune the radio transmitter antennae with something like this...

YouTube - Loop antenna resonance measurement with the MFJ-259B

or will rough approximations work?

[reddb49]

RF Tank Question

I have been reading this thread just about every day and I am amazed with what is going on. I know very little about electronics but have built several things in the past with schematics and parts list. Simple things like Lawton circuits and PWM. My knowledge is more on the lines of machining parts and welding. I have been trying to get my head around something to mount the antenna in and have had a problem trying to understand all that is going on inside the vessel. I have made a drawing based on my understanding of the vessel and what is needed in and on it. Take a look at the picture and see what might be needed or taken off and let me know.
Myron