None Electrolytic Splitting Of H2o

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Michael John Nunnerley has been bought off before, in his own admission, on this site , has he been bought off again? The man with knowledge to change the world as we know it, has backed down again? Welcome to Energetics forum the energy suppression forum?

No I have not been bought off, I am still my own person, but have decided to work within a small funded group to get this type of tech: out into the world without sharks wanting to rip off the inventors legs and stop him from running with the invention.

I have given the basics of the way it can be done, there are others such as my e-beam which Alex seems to know how it works and is selling plans

http://www.ems.psu.edu/~radovic/PLW/...ola_Carbon.pdf

This is a link to a paper "please note the date" which was so close to making synthetic fuel, the problem was they went about it in the wrong way and was not continued that I know of until I started with it.

The basic concept was right, but the application was wrong, it wasn't until about three years ago that I realised what was needed and took me a year longer to get to a very primative working test model. Even that has changed as it did use a very high vacuum of which Harvey has seen the results of a very bad burn on my arm from a combination of X ray and high RF field.

I had to change from a vacuum to normal atmosferic pressure and still produce the e-beam that I wanted, this has been achieved and does work and I call this the secound generation reactor after the RF reactor. It still uses RF, but also very high voltage to produce the e-beam of very high energy for the reforming of gases and the splitting of the water molecule.

All will just have to be patient, it will be out there in the very near future, but when all the POSSIBLE side effects have been dealt with and building very much simplified.

The one thing that is of concern and that is any approval or certificate that this would need and that is why all the problems will be sorted as near as possible BEFORE it is known how to do it, if not it will die under a pile of papers.

Mike

[ewizard]

[Harvey]

Hi Mike,

I felt much better knowing you and the research team had your radiation badges on during the lab tests.

Safety First

Best Regards,

Harvey

[natone_m]

progress?

I've been following this thread for a while and I've had to re-read it a couple of times to soak it all in. I was wondering if the formentioned parts list is still a go? I would love to build something to help my family & I to get off the grid, but on just one income I don't want to throw a bunch of $$ on parts that may not work. Will one of these reactor create enough nh3/n20 to run a 10 kw generator? Between reading this thread and the others on this subject I think I might have a descent idea of how this system might work. If I get time tonight I might draw something up so that I may get some advice.

[natone_m]

I'll take a crack at it!

Okay... I would love to make a generator run off water. Based off what I've read in this forum, the ionization thread, and NH3 fuel for car thread this is what I can come up with.

First you need hollow atomic nitrogen. The way I think I can achieve this is as follows:

ambient air --> filter --> pump --> nitrogen membrane cartridge --> tank (or you could just use a tank of N2 and bypass all of this) --> regulator --> ionizer (15 Kv??)

You need distilled H2O with a ph < 7 and you have to break it down into H H O.

Water (2% salt?) --> tank --> ultrasonic fogger --> regulator

Once I have the ionized nitrogen and the water vapor, they are sent to the reactor that is discussed in this thread. The heterodyning will break apart the H20 which will recombine with the electron defficient nitrogen to make NH3 and N2O.

Is this somewhat correct? I know I may not have it all sorted out but I think I'm headed in the right direction. I also know that the recirculated exhuast gases can play large role in the efficiency, but is it needed for the overall process to be successful?

I have lots of questions

Nate

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Okay... I would love to make a generator run off water. Based off what I've read in this forum, the ionization thread, and NH3 fuel for car thread this is what I can come up with.

First you need hollow atomic nitrogen. The way I think I can achieve this is as follows:

ambient air --> filter --> pump --> nitrogen membrane cartridge --> tank (or you could just use a tank of N2 and bypass all of this) --> regulator --> ionizer (15 Kv??)

You need distilled H2O with a ph < 7 and you have to break it down into H H O.

Water (2% salt?) --> tank --> ultrasonic fogger --> regulator

Once I have the ionized nitrogen and the water vapor, they are sent to the reactor that is discussed in this thread. The heterodyning will break apart the H20 which will recombine with the electron defficient nitrogen to make NH3 and N2O.

Is this somewhat correct? I know I may not have it all sorted out but I think I'm headed in the right direction. I also know that the recirculated exhuast gases can play large role in the efficiency, but is it needed for the overall process to be successful?

I have lots of questions

Nate

Yes you more or less have it right, the salt is a catalyst which will give you the ph that you want. The nitrogen is vibrated and becomes unstable by the same RF bombardment that makes the H and O unstable in the water, the atomic O will be attracted to the vibrated nitrogen and so maintain its diatomic state, while the atomic H will attract to the vibrated nitrogen and prise it apart to link with three of the hydrogen atoms. (other gases will be formed but in there minor state).

The hard part is making the RF electronics at the frequencies we are using in this thread.

Mike

[natone_m]

Reactor Questions

Is this picture that you posted a long time ago the same thing as the reactor that you have proposed in this thread? It seems there is an outer and an inner "antenna" on the main structure. I'm wondering what the device is on the end that resembles a spark plug with an inlet on the bottom of it? What is its purpose?

Nate

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Is this picture that you posted a long time ago the same thing as the reactor that you have proposed in this thread? It seems there is an outer and an inner "antenna" on the main structure. I'm wondering what the device is on the end that resembles a spark plug with an inlet on the bottom of it? What is its purpose?

Nate

That is not the reactor for RF splitting of water, that was the first e-beam reactor which is another project and is still ongoing but needs a lot more work on it. What you see there is the reactor that used a very high vacuum as a source of electrons, I have since done away with the vacuum.

The e-beam reactor creates vibrational waves of very high potencial which breaks the bonding of molecular structures, this also uses a system of heterodyning and is the secound generation to the original RF splitting of the water molecule. Two different and very high voltages along with two different frequencies come together inside the structures of the molecules creating very high localised temperatures. Catalysts are also used to direct the reforming of new molecules, you might say a chemists dream.

CO2 and H2O can be used to create CH4 and O2, natural gas and oxygen which is a lot easier than using N2 and H2O to make NH3 and N2O along with NH4 and other nitrogen oxides. The possibilities are nearly endless and it is also a system to clean up air polutants at the same time.

Details of this system will not be published at this present time, so don't ask.

Mike

[Armagdn03]

That is not the reactor for RF splitting of water, that was the first e-beam reactor which is another project and is still ongoing but needs a lot more work on it. What you see there is the reactor that used a very high vacuum as a source of electrons, I have since done away with the vacuum.

The e-beam reactor creates vibrational waves of very high potencial which breaks the bonding of molecular structures, this also uses a system of heterodyning and is the secound generation to the original RF splitting of the water molecule. Two different and very high voltages along with two different frequencies come together inside the structures of the molecules creating very high localised temperatures. Catalysts are also used to direct the reforming of new molecules, you might say a chemists dream.

CO2 and H2O can be used to create CH4 and O2, natural gas and oxygen which is a lot easier than using N2 and H2O to make NH3 and N2O along with NH4 and other nitrogen oxides. The possibilities are nearly endless and it is also a system to clean up air polutants at the same time.

Details of this system will not be published at this present time, so don't ask.

Mike

Really damn amazing. I wonder if one could "split" pure elements with this system.

[tutanka]

Really damn amazing. I wonder if one could "split" pure elements with this system.

YES, THAT IS E-BEAM POWER, THE ENERGY NEEDED FOR PROCESS IS CREATED INTERNALLY TO THE REACTOR!!! YOU CAN PROCESS EXAUST GAS AFTER CATALYST AND YOU OBTAIN CH3-NH2 FUEL NOT CH4 AND O2 AS MIKE ASK. I REMEMBER TO ALL THAT EXAUST GAS PURIFIED FROM CATALYST ARE COMPOSED FROM CO2, H2O AND N2.. OF COURSE MIKE REFER TO SEA WATER BUT FUTURE OF WORLD IS A FUEL CREATED FROM NITROGEN AND WATER AND NATURAL CATALYST!!
SEE DETAILED COMPOSITION OF SEAWATER Composition of seawater.. THERE ARE SOME OTHER COMPONENTS INSIDE .. THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!

[tutanka]

Is this picture that you posted a long time ago the same thing as the reactor that you have proposed in this thread? It seems there is an outer and an inner "antenna" on the main structure. I'm wondering what the device is on the end that resembles a spark plug with an inlet on the bottom of it? What is its purpose?

Nate

ONLY FOR YOUR INFORMATION THE PHOTO POSTED FROM YOU REFER TO MINE REACTOR NOT OF MIKE!!! THAT'S IS NEW REACTOR!!

[natone_m]

Oooohh

Sorry for the mix-up Tutanka. I've watched your video on youtube of your reactor working. Its pretty interesting. Is the Tesla video that shows the plasma arcing your reactor with the end taken off. I take it that your reactor doesn't generate normal non-thermal plasma? If I were guessing by the size of the power supply and driver that you are generating HV & high frequency low current. I got some more questions for you tutanka is this may not be an appropriate forum. I don't want to de-rail this discussion.

Nate

[natone_m]

Knowledge

Mike, tutanka or whoever

I remember reading posts that you know how Meyers systems worked and that you have set in the actual dunebuggy ect. I've read tid-bits of info on these forums about meyers's work and alot of explainations but I was wondering if it would be possible to get some clarity on some of his patent related devices.

1. What is the purpose of the gas processor? I was under the impression that that ionized gases were necessary for the reaction but you have stated previously that if the reactor that is discussed in this thread is built you don't need an ionizer. Is the EEC needed?

2. Steam Resonator?? Vaporize water?

3. WFC ?? Did it just make H & O to mix with ionized nitrogen?

I would like your perspectives on these pieces.

[tutanka]

Mike, tutanka or whoever

I remember reading posts that you know how Meyers systems worked and that you have set in the actual dunebuggy ect. I've read tid-bits of info on these forums about meyers's work and alot of explainations but I was wondering if it would be possible to get some clarity on some of his patent related devices.

1. What is the purpose of the gas processor? I was under the impression that that ionized gases were necessary for the reaction but you have stated previously that if the reactor that is discussed in this thread is built you don't need an ionizer. Is the EEC needed?

2. Steam Resonator?? Vaporize water?

3. WFC ?? Did it just make H & O to mix with ionized nitrogen?

I would like your perspectives on these pieces.

EEC is electron extraction circuit and remove electron.. reactor in fact absorb electron splitted and increase the flow. Reactor work differently to meyer concept. First to sent nitrogen/water mixture inside reactor you need to process that correclty. SOME ELECTRONS --> SOME ENERGY GENERATED DURING PROCESS, ENERGY BORN INSIDE REACTOR AND LOW ENERGY STAGE IS NECESSARY ONLY AS STARTER!

[Guruji]

Daniel Dingel to Meissner

Is Daniel Dingel circuit related to Meissner circuit?
cause both as if are using high voltage coils