None Electrolytic Splitting Of H2o

[tutanka]

Is Daniel Dingel circuit related to Meissner circuit?
cause both as if are using high voltage coils

Sorry,
I don't have idea about Meissner circuit but surely you need to use alternate high voltage. The first stage is very important for obtain the right gas fuel creation. High voltage is used from first stage and from reactor.

[Wilbert]

YOU CAN CHOOSE YOUR WAY BUT IN ALL CASES YOU NEED THE SPECIAL REACTOR and FIRST PROCESS STAGE!!

Hi tutanka,


....and you sell the plans
....or you just say you sell the plans?


asks
Wilbert

[tutanka]

Hi tutanka,


....and you sell the plans
....or you just say you sell the plans?


asks
Wilbert

Hello,
Im waiting to reach numbers of clients.. when reached I send you plans.. now I have no more requests..

[tutanka]

sea water isn't right way..

In previously post Mike wrote:

"CO2 and H2O can be used to create CH4 and O2, natural gas and oxygen which is a lot easier than using N2 and H2O to make NH3 and N2O along with NH4 and other nitrogen oxides. The possibilities are nearly endless and it is also a system to clean up air polutants at the same time."

Mike refer to sea water but as I have posted some time ago inside that are presents some impurities and these are negative for our process.

http://mistupid.com/chemistry/seawatercomp.htm

We need an gas fuel stable in the time for that reason right way is Nitrogen molecular (extracted from air), distilled water (I use bi-distilled) and natural catalyst as NaCl. dissolve

Some peoples ask that exaust gas can be recycled.. I don't suggest to use that way because is dangerous (can exploded reactor) and/or you can contaminate the reactor with oil engine.


That is my suggestion and your mind can consider my words.

[tutanka]

Is Time Of Change..

Is time of change our life. We can not live in a sick world where the only important thing is money. The financial crisis will hit many countries including those technologically advanced. We need to start thinking about our future in a different way, nature must be considered to defend our own good. For this reason we have to eliminate oil from our lives and begin a new era. A green revolution where people will go back in time regaining contact with our mother earth. We were always surrounded by water and air, and we've always considered factors unrelated to himself. When we find that mixing them together we will create energy to zero cost will make us reflect how much money we burned in oil. It's time to say stop!

[totoalas]

Frequency converted to Mp3????

Hi to all

Just some inquiry/ possible set up
Can we convert frequency to Mp3 and use this in H production
Helpfulwavesdotcom used this method to alter frequency of things metals stones etc using speaker from pc to transmit sgnal
2, Can a diode lie in4148 be connected to a ultrasonc fogger then to the pos neg and N plates on te bottom of a dry cell hydroxy
3
SS Plates with open spacers using fog instead of electrolytes produced from a fgger wth electrlyte at the bottom of plates
Aerator push fog to the plates
Center of plates 2 x 2 inches usng naoh electrolyte for normal hydroxy
used for putting pressure on the cels to lift the hydrogen out to a bubbler dryer
Abve are some ideas to ponder

cheers
totoalas

[tutanka]

Hi to all

Just some inquiry/ possible set up
Can we convert frequency to Mp3 and use this in H production
Helpfulwavesdotcom used this method to alter frequency of things metals stones etc using speaker from pc to transmit sgnal
2, Can a diode lie in4148 be connected to a ultrasonc fogger then to the pos neg and N plates on te bottom of a dry cell hydroxy
3
SS Plates with open spacers using fog instead of electrolytes produced from a fgger wth electrlyte at the bottom of plates
Aerator push fog to the plates
Center of plates 2 x 2 inches usng naoh electrolyte for normal hydroxy
used for putting pressure on the cels to lift the hydrogen out to a bubbler dryer
Abve are some ideas to ponder

cheers
totoalas

Open your mind. Delete all on electrolisys cells. You need to mix molecular nitrogen with distilled water, when you don't see the new mixture with your eyes you can process that flow with free electrons obtaining new gas.

[totoalas]

Open your mind. Delete all on electrolisys cells. You need to mix molecular nitrogen with distilled water, when you don't see the new mixture with your eyes you can process that flow with free electrons obtaining new gas.

Thanks tutanka
I just want to have an off the shelf H production while you tech gurus are perfecting it
Mr Dingel did it I was ther 25 years ago in his garage
He poured Coke in the carburetor and asked me If I can smell it in the exhaust pipe which surely smelled coke
Check my youtube channel imtotob whre I tested the fogger in different set up

cheers

totoalas

[totoalas]

Koda's Theoretical Inventions
Water as Fuel

Water (H2O) is made up of the elements hydrogen and oxygen. Both are used as rocket fuel. You may recall that the Hindenburg airship was filled with hydrogen gas and a spark caused it to burn to the ground in just seconds. Oxygen is required for any flame or combustion to occur.

When an electrical current passes through water, the hydrogen and oxygen become separated and escape as gasses. This process is referred to as electrolysis. You can demonstrate a simple form of electrolysis by holding the connection end of a nine-volt battery in a glass of water. Tiny bubbles will begin to form on each electrode, oxygen on one and hydrogen on the other. Higher electrical current will cause the gas to form much more rapidly.

I have seen a demonstration for school kids on TV where they cranked the handle of a small generator a few times then pushed a button to ignite the hydrogen/oxygen gas released from the water. This caused a small explosion which blew a ping pong ball high up through a clear plastic cylinder.

These facts indicate that it may be possible to build a motor that runs on water. A battery would be used as a source of electrical energy which would separate the hydrogen/oxygen into gases. The gasses would then fuel an internal combustion engine, which would power a generator to continously recharge the battery as well as deliver useable mechanical energy. If this sort of motor can be made to work, the energy crisis on this planet will be over forever.

Whether or not this device would produce more energy than that required to separate the gasses, and thus produce useful work, depends upon the efficiency of the gas separation process. Just as it would be impossible to light a large block of wood by holding a single match directly under the center of the block, if the bottom and sides of the block were first shredded into thin strips, that single match would then be capable of igniting the wood. In the same way, it may be possible to use a smaller amount of energy than expected to separate water into gases.

It has been demonstrated that in addition to electrical current passing through water, ultrasonic vibrations and radio waves are also capable of breaking the molecular bonds in water to release the hydrogen and oxygen. The design below uses a combination of ultrasonic vibrations and pulsed electrical energy (which just happens to produce radio waves as well) as a means for increasing the efficiency of the gas separation process. Below that are links to info on this and other forms of "free" energy, including videos of cars reported to run on water.

Ultrasonic Electrolysis

The above illustration shows the principle of how a combination of pulsed low voltage electricity and ultrasonic vibrations may result in the efficient production of hydrogen and oxygen gas from water. The device could be used as a constant source of hydrogen to fuel an internal combustion vehicle, or perhaps as a hydrogen injector at each cylinder. In other words, this device is intended to enable cars to use water as fuel, as well as power generators and provide essentially free, non-poluting energy for the entire world.

The resonant frequency of water is ~42.7khz. When water molecules vibrate at this frequency they tend to become unstable. In the above illustration a piezoelectric crystal is glued to the base of a hollow metal dome, which is attached to a flexible material (in this case, rubber). When stimulated by electric current the crystal will vibrate, which in turn will vibrate the hollow dome. The dome is surrounded by water, which will vibrate at the same frequency. This vibration will cause the water molecules to disassociate into hydrogen and oxygen gas. (Some literature indicates that water will disassociate at frequencies near 2.4mhz so this device also assumes that possibility.)

At the same time an electrical current is passed through the water, between the dome and the outer (metal) wall of the device, in pulses occurring at the resonant frequency of water. It is well known that water will separate into hydrogen and oxygen gas in the presence of an electrical current (hydrolysis) but it generally requires 3 times as much electrical energy to produce hydrogen than is available from burning the hydrogen. Efficiency is increased when the electrical current is pulsed through the water at the resonant frequency. The combination of both physical vibration and electrical pulsing should result in an even greater level of efficiency. The frequencies of both the vibrations and electric pulses should be adjusted experimentally to determine which combination of harmonic resonances are most efficient in disassociating the water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen gas.

It should be noted that there have been reports of large explosions when water is physically disassociated using ultrasonic vibrations. The explosive force reported is substantially greater than can be accounted for by the chemical burning of the hydrogen (in one case this was 29,000 pounds of pressure from 3 drops of water). Experimenters constructing this device should use appropriate caution.

I am an "idea artist" rather than a scientist, so I do not know if this device would produce more energy than used to operate it, but I expect it will do so with great efficiency. I have no plans to build one myself, but will be happy to discuss the mater with anyone seriously interested in constructing the device. I believe it is likely that similar devices already exist but have been suppressed by government, as many inventors in this field have been murdered or silenced in other ways. If you manage to get something to work well, my suggestion would be to publish the technical details broadly and agressively, and hope for compensation by understanding philanthropists.

Koda
December 1, 2007
koda@kodasplace.com

[tutanka]

you can test Koda theory..

You can test Koda theory but don't work. Piezoelectric oscillations don't breaks water molecules into hydrogen/oxygen. Koda use piezo and electrolisys in association but if you want generate more gas you have to add some electrolyte like NaOH but some energy is consumed into the process. Sonolisi with electrolisys are old techniques. If you want produce some fuel gas you need to start from the water vapour. RF bombardment as Mike have suggested isn't right solution for car usage, hydrogen can't be compressed from piston and risk of explosion is very high for these reasons BMW have developed an cryogenic hydrogen system that inject hydrogen H2 directly in combustion chambre.
But at today the ONLY solution to gasoline is LPG or Methane CH4 and AIR because you can compress without problems.

But... If CH4 and AIR are ok for run your engine why don't use NH3 (40%) and N20 (60%) created in stechiometric value?

NH3/N2O can be compressed to high pressure
NH3/N2O have more power than gasoline.
NH3/N2O is the PERFECT GREEN FUEL

NITROGEN (FROM AIR) IS THE PERFECT CARRIER FOR HYDROGEN AND OXYGEN GENERATED FROM WATER


I'M ABSOLUTELY SURE ... MICRONIC FUEL (NH3/N2O) IS FUEL OF FUTURE!!

[totoalas]

NITROGEN (FROM AIR) IS THE PERFECT CARRIER FOR HYDROGEN AND OXYGEN GENERATED FROM WATER


I'M ABSOLUTELY SURE ... MICRONIC FUEL (NH3/N2O) IS FUEL OF FUTURE!![/QUOTE]
Thanks again Tutanka
Ive been maintaining a Nitrogen generator the size of a humidifier used in homes application for calibration of NOX sampler in flue gas monitorng

Dont know if theres a smaller version that can just fit in the trunk of a car lol
I think Mp3 record of nnnnKhz can use a car stereo to transmit the siignal to the vessel this way simplify the process with less parts
Are there any other method of extractng Nitrogen from air or just straight N from a tank or generator????

cheeers
totoalas

[tutanka]

NITROGEN (FROM AIR) IS THE PERFECT CARRIER FOR HYDROGEN AND OXYGEN GENERATED FROM WATER


I'M ABSOLUTELY SURE ... MICRONIC FUEL (NH3/N2O) IS FUEL OF FUTURE!!

I use nitrogen membrane for extract nitrogen from air but you can use simple method using copper resistor, in that way you absorb the low amount of oxygen present in air creating CuO and heating the nitrogen at the same time.I suggest to use 2.4MHz piezo capsule for create water vapour mixed with heated nitrogen, after sent that mixture trought an DBD reactor using HV field, in input you see clearly the vapour entered but in output if all work correctly your eyes don't see nothing. That invisible vapour is sended inside reactor that use an electrons source amplified from an non uniform field, that flow to high speed is able to split the molecules sended inside and the electrons splitted from molecules form the energy needed for process. The energy is created inside the reactor and your initial power (no more of 200W) is used as an starter. Inside reactor you have only hollow atoms only on externally rest chambre the atomic nitrogen, hydrogen and oxygen atoms are recomposed into NH3 and N2O. That's all

[Michael John Nunnerley]

I use nitrogen membrane for extract nitrogen from air but you can use simple method using copper resistor, in that way you absorb the low amount of oxygen present in air creating CuO and heating the nitrogen at the same time.I suggest to use 2.4MHz piezo capsule for create water vapour mixed with heated nitrogen, after sent that mixture trought an DBD reactor using HV field, in input you see clearly the vapour entered but in output if all work correctly your eyes don't see nothing. That invisible vapour is sended inside reactor that use an electrons source amplified from an non uniform field, that flow to high speed is able to split the molecules sended inside and the electrons splitted from molecules form the energy needed for process. The energy is created inside the reactor and your initial power (no more of 200W) is used as an starter. Inside reactor you have only hollow atoms only on externally rest chambre the atomic nitrogen, hydrogen and oxygen atoms are recomposed into NH3 and N2O. That's all

Well I have kept quiet up till now on this thread, but i think it is time to say a few things.

This thread was started to show a means of breaking the water molecule using RF in a special way, but now we seem to have gone on to what I call my secound generation reactor which is a culmination of many years of work steming from the RF.

I have over ABOUT two years been speaking with Alex on this subject via skype. I have never given the complete in one go process of E-BEAM molecular breaking and recombing, the RF work stems back to 1989, the E-BEAM about 5 years. Alex is an industrial engineer like me and I think very bright and I THINK put most of what I have talked about, together, especially when he built part of the secound prototype in Italy for testing.

This prototype was with a vacuum to generate free electrons, I found afterwards that this was not needed, it could be done another way, infact the system generates a low energy X ray which is not good and had to be changed.

The system does generate energy "electrical energy" which can be used for other parts of the system if you know how to do it. The main part of the energy created by the system is used within itself for vibrating the molecules and is not extractable, "only the excess", setting up is the most difficult and that is one of the things that I am trying to address at the moment so as there is no error in it's function.

My whole idea of this system is not just for creating synthetic fuels, but also for other molecular reconfiguration "a chemists dream" as I call it.

I am sure I am not the only one in this world that has got to where I am at the moment, I know the Russians and the Americans are working on the same and have good results, but I am the only one in the private sector "none government" who has the now knowledge to build this type of reactor, apart from what seems Alex also has the means.

I am at the moment funded for materials by the private sector which has no affiliation to any energy producer, infact one of the members is a chemist of considerable age whom is up for a nobel prize this year, I hope I do not get into trouble for saying that".

This tech: is where physics meets chemistry, I break no laws, only found a low energy way of changing molecular structures so as on combustion of the new molecular products, excess energy can be created, that is accepted in the scientific community and would not be condemed.

ALL my work is dated and copy righted and signed and sealed by Notary and will be used in any court case or in the event of my death.

None of this work will be patented, it will eventually be for general use, but will be phased in over a period of time, it is not really for the home builder unless he really knows what he is doing. I do not want to make loads of money, I am 60 years old and only need just enough so as I do not have to worry about paying my bills at the end of the month, and yes Alex as I have said to you in private, you will not be out of pocket.

I am writting a book at the moment which will explain a lot of all this and more, and if it runs into too many pages it will be in two parts. This book will be on other means of creating energy as well, e-beam is just one thing, and yes I will make some money, not a lot, and my publisher as well and anyone who wants to read it will have to pay maybe 20$, not really a big deal for the information within which has taken many years to invent, if thats the word to use!


Mike

[tutanka]

Well I have kept quiet up till now on this thread, but i think it is time to say a few things.

This thread was started to show a means of breaking the water molecule using RF in a special way, but now we seem to have gone on to what I call my secound generation reactor which is a culmination of many years of work steming from the RF.

I have over ABOUT two years been speaking with Alex on this subject via skype. I have never given the complete in one go process of E-BEAM molecular breaking and recombing, the RF work stems back to 1989, the E-BEAM about 5 years. Alex is an industrial engineer like me and I think very bright and I THINK put most of what I have talked about, together, especially when he built part of the secound prototype in Italy for testing.

This prototype was with a vacuum to generate free electrons, I found afterwards that this was not needed, it could be done another way, infact the system generates a low energy X ray which is not good and had to be changed.

The system does generate energy "electrical energy" which can be used for other parts of the system if you know how to do it. The main part of the energy created by the system is used within itself for vibrating the molecules and is not extractable, "only the excess", setting up is the most difficult and that is one of the things that I am trying to address at the moment so as there is no error in it's function.

My whole idea of this system is not just for creating synthetic fuels, but also for other molecular reconfiguration "a chemists dream" as I call it.

I am sure I am not the only one in this world that has got to where I am at the moment, I know the Russians and the Americans are working on the same and have good results, but I am the only one in the private sector "none government" who has the now knowledge to build this type of reactor, apart from what seems Alex also has the means.

I am at the moment funded for materials by the private sector which has no affiliation to any energy producer, infact one of the members is a chemist of considerable age whom is up for a nobel prize this year, I hope I do not get into trouble for saying that".

This tech: is where physics meets chemistry, I break no laws, only found a low energy way of changing molecular structures so as on combustion of the new molecular products, excess energy can be created, that is accepted in the scientific community and would not be condemed.

ALL my work is dated and copy righted and signed and sealed by Notary and will be used in any court case or in the event of my death.

None of this work will be patented, it will eventually be for general use, but will be phased in over a period of time, it is not really for the home builder unless he really knows what he is doing. I do not want to make loads of money, I am 60 years old and only need just enough so as I do not have to worry about paying my bills at the end of the month, and yes Alex as I have said to you in private, you will not be out of pocket.

I am writting a book at the moment which will explain a lot of all this and more, and if it runs into too many pages it will be in two parts. This book will be on other means of creating energy as well, e-beam is just one thing, and yes I will make some money, not a lot, and my publisher as well and anyone who wants to read it will have to pay maybe 20$, not really a big deal for the information within which has taken many years to invent, if thats the word to use!


Mike

Dear Mike,
How are you?
Is more time that we don't talk togheter because probably your time is used for write the book.
However is right that I reply to your words.
Is correct , you have help me initially to understand how the e-beam process work but if you remember better I have explained to you how new electrons source work (without use vacuum) and however the process explained from you is based on old US patent and not made from you (including RF water splitting).

Mike, I remember also that the photos of reactor and experiments posted from you are sended from me to you!

My actual reactor include some modifications, new electron source generator and new specified materials, all made of Alex.

In this period I have start some prototypes and electronics and at this time I have reached the perfect system.
For that reason I write that micronic fuel (name made of me) is right fuel of future.

However I'm every open to collaborations, I don't have secrets!

That's all.

All the best
Alex

[Majestic81]

NH3/N2O can be compressed to high pressure
NH3/N2O have more power than gasoline.
NH3/N2O is the PERFECT GREEN FUEL

NITROGEN (FROM AIR) IS THE PERFECT CARRIER FOR HYDROGEN AND OXYGEN GENERATED FROM WATER

I'M ABSOLUTELY SURE ... MICRONIC FUEL (NH3/N2O) IS FUEL OF FUTURE!![/QUOTE]

Hi Tutanka,
How much BTU at which PSI does NH3/N2O have?

You mentioned to use 200 Watts as a starter, is the reaction self-substainable after this?

How much are you getting out of the reaction process in KW/efficiency %?

Do you still sell these plans and do these plans contain the whole design, with parts-list so I can build a workable prototype myself?

Greetings,
Majestic