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  • powerme
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    if one was to put together an atomizing HHO water fuel kit for small generator 6kwh, this kit will include all components required but will need to produce water fuel and will need 2 hrs assembly time.

    how much should it be priced?.

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  • powerme
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    Originally posted by bugler View Post
    Can you elaborate on this?
    simply means they vibrate, motion of bending back and forth just like an electrical coil in oscillation. the crystals however liberate water into Hydrogen and Oxygen by consuming the surplus ultrasonic waves that would other wise be wasted as heat is a normal fogging machine.

    the crystals efficiency is around 15% for regular water but since we are atomizing water into much finer molecules, our efficiency is much greater.

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  • bugler
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    Originally posted by powerme View Post

    When the fibers bend, asymmetries in their crystal structures generate positive and negative charges and create an electrical potential.
    Can you elaborate on this?

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  • powerme
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    Originally posted by FRC View Post
    Was hoping to put together a plasma setup with a flyback transformerl. Have not got around to that yet either. Have been doing alum batteries today.

    FRC
    you can simply use off the shelf engine without having to build a circuit.

    i was trying out other crystals like barium titanate and came across this:
    The researchers, led by UW-Madison geologist and crystal specialist Huifang Xu, grew nanocrystals of two common crystals, zinc oxide and barium titanate, and placed them in water. When pulsed with ultrasonic vibrations, the nanofibers flexed and catalyzed a chemical reaction to split the water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen.

    When the fibers bend, asymmetries in their crystal structures generate positive and negative charges and create an electrical potential. This phenomenon, called the piezoelectric effect, has been well known in certain crystals for more than a century and is the driving force behind quartz clocks and other applications


    it seems like there's already patent application pending on what I am doing.

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  • FRC
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    Flyback

    Was hoping to put together a plasma setup with a flyback transformerl. Have not got around to that yet either. Have been doing alum batteries today.

    FRC

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  • powerme
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    [QUOTE=FRC;130218]Will just straight fog (without the crystals) from the fogger work using a plasma spark?
    Yes, that's what they do with atomize water injection. See how much gas u can cut back and keep engine running.

    FRC[

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  • FRC
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    Plasma

    Will just straight fog (without the crystals) from the fogger work using a plasma spark?

    FRC

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  • powerme
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    dont forget to open lid so your solution evaporates.

    crystals HHO gas production can improved upon with addition of other elements but if someone can replicate what i had disclosed then we'll continue the discussions.

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  • powerme
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    FRC, you need to freeze solution to -0 degree C, use a probe to check temp, for me I get there in 2 hrs, then i leave it for an additional 1 hr.

    I use a glass jar pint size to mix, i sue glass rod to mix, close lid then freeze. After freeze, I just set it on the table by a window and leave alone. Check a few days later, all dried with nice crysals.

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  • powerme
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    Originally posted by Roland View Post
    Nickle 200 is good for electrodes low resistance and holds up well. It does seem to produce a slightly different gas form SS.
    yes, I'm blending different alloys do find the best correlation of conductivity and electrolysis.

    I am also using crystalline alloy.

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  • powerme
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    Originally posted by FRC View Post
    What common household cleaner (or other source) would have ammonia hydroxide in it ?

    FRC

    Glass cleaner, and supposedly containers labeled just Ammonia. Thats what I bought.
    source:Wikipedia
    sorry, haven't tried that. dissolve ZnO in Ammonium Hydroxide technical grade. Set Freezer to coldest setting, 3 hours should be enough for a small batch of 30ml.

    Then let sit in well ventilated area.

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  • Roland
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    Originally posted by powerme View Post
    It may not be suitable for constant flame, I am working on different electrodes for HHO electrolysis as I found stainless steel to be the worst material due to high restivity.
    Nickle 200 is good for electrodes low resistance and holds up well. It does seem to produce a slightly different gas form SS.

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  • powerme
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    Originally posted by altrez View Post
    this should work.

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  • FRC
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    Is this not good ?

    Originally posted by powerme View Post
    you will end up with ZnCl(OH) if you use ammonia chloride.

    Best to buy ammonia hydroxide as that is the form that I used.
    What common household cleaner (or other source) would have ammonia hydroxide in it ?

    FRC

    Glass cleaner, and supposedly containers labeled just Ammonia. Thats what I bought.
    source:Wikipedia
    Last edited by FRC; 02-12-2011, 09:02 PM. Reason: answer

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  • altrez
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    Originally posted by powerme View Post
    you will end up with ZnCl(OH) if you use ammonia chloride.

    Best to buy ammonia hydroxide as that is the form that I used.
    Will this work?

    Ammonium Hydroxide Concentrated 15 Molar Reagent 30mL

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