Help for Stanley Mayer HHO generator

[Ordo_Ab_Chao]

I'm sorry, that link was posted from my droid phone, and what's weird is that from my phone it goes to the right vid ....
I just got on my laptop and corrected it

YouTube - Pure voltage No amperage + Skin effect

P.S. I'm sorry I come off as rude, I am not trying to be...

As for the photos, yes I have seen them, I probably have them in my OU file...You're referring to the closeups leaked during the sale of stan's dune buggy right?
They were very straight forward IC drivers linked to opto-isolators throttle control...etc etc

Have you seen the hi-res photo's of the Gas processor?
The one with all the LED exciters

Do you understand the Easer?

Do you know of the Blacklight Process, Atomic Hydrogen Welding, or what Stan referred to as "Energy Aperature"?
Do you know that the energy density of Aether is directly proportional to the frequency.....
Hydrogen being the smallest, highest frequency element makes it a conduit for high frequency aetheric flows (converting Aether into anomalous heat).
This is true in descending order for the first 9 elements...that's what makes them so unstable/reactive

Research "The Atomic Hydrogen Process" and tell me if you can find a caloric measurement of the heat at the surface of the catalytic surface of recombination...If you've done your homework you may be able to if not, you will not find it anywhere in current publication. You can only find the caloric amount for the disassociation of molecular H2 into atomic H

Even though it's the most superior welding method (can weld any metal and even semiconductors etc..), Atomic Hydrogen has been phased out for Mig/Tig?????

[joe 2]

ingenuity and anger with some danger thrown in make a good read, cheers lads .

Anyway back to meyer, his vic used current restriction from electromagnetic fields not from any resonance in the circuit. His 6 tube assemblies ran the buggy so i do think that is worth doing. He then used injectors with a vic or vec running at a much higher frequency....so here is the question, if i made the vic to run at around 1mhz would it just be the core material that needs changing??

[joe 2]

Anyway back to meyer, his vic used current restriction from electromagnetic fields not from any resonance in the circuit. His 6 tube assemblies ran the buggy so i do think that is worth doing. He then used injectors with a vic or vec running at a much higher frequency....so here is the question, if i made the vic to run at around 1mhz would it just be the core material that needs changing??

[joe 2]

@orbo

u have to admitt that the link u gave in error as proof of pure voltage with no amps is possible that just played a lady ga ga video was really funny, it only proved crap music exists.

[toranarod]

Hello all,
I am working on a Stanley Mayer system to produce HHO, that i plan to demonstrate in my site (like all of my projects). I am little bit confused with the inductors after the step-up transformer (the ones after the secondary coil of the step-up transformer) I am working on 2 types, toroidal and bifilar.

Toroidal:
I have 2 different coils, NOT on the same core, each one with same wounds (200 rounds each), with 24 AWG wire. The toroid core is 1'' diameter

Bifillar:
I still have not one make yet, because i have found several different designs, and i do not know which one to follow. More specifically, i have seen one type that has both coils turned with the same direction, and another type that has the coils turned in opposite direction.

Please tell me the proper setup that you used. Toroid, bifilar with both coils in same direction, of bifilar with coils turned in different direction?

Regarding the electronic circuit:
I have design myself a very flexible electronic circuit (that i will post details in my site), with 4 op-amps and 2 comparators, based on a previous circuit that i had designed some time ago, which you can find here:
Voltage controlled PWM Generator

If my fuel cell works, i plan to publish an automated controlled circuit with PIC micro, as i am very experienced in using microcontrollers. I will publish full details as i always do with my projects.

Your help will be highly appreciated. Thanks
Giorgos

What do you have in mind wen you say automated circuit.
do you intend to make a circuit that can lock into the capacitive inductive resonance of the cells. Like Stans PLL circuits?

[Ordo_Ab_Chao]

I am working on a digital capacitor and a digital resistor atm.
The are pricey to buy, but I found that a microcrontroller with enough I/O ports can be used to turn on and off capacitors in a parallel network creating whatever resolution u need. I also found that an led glued to a photocell can make a digitally controlled resistor.

I will use a microntroller with one sensing loop around the transformer...the trick is in software, I have to make it start with capacity. Have it watch which capacitance creates highest voltage, then make it scan through resistance till it finds the highest voltage....this should be resonance.

One obstacle is to make the photocell/led linear, I read this is possible by using two photocells in series and one offset led to operate both...if it's too hard a real digital pot is available....just a bit pricey.

[joe 2]

@orbo
i know how meyer got the current restriction, can u do the transformer calculations?

[sebosfato]

@orbo
i know how meyer got the current restriction, can u do the transformer calculations?

What are your Ideas about amp restriction? I'm thinking that the frequency was variable to aways match the maximum saturation limit of the core over the impedance range.

I think the amp restriction happens when a magnetic field is present and at the same time the non inductive style coil have opposing currents that repel each other.

[Guruji]

Hho

What are your Ideas about amp restriction? I'm thinking that the frequency was variable to aways match the maximum saturation limit of the core over the impedance range.

I think the amp restriction happens when a magnetic field is present and at the same time the non inductive style coil have opposing currents that repel each other.

Amps go down when resonance of tubes is reached. There are vids about a certain guy fastfreddy showing this on youtube.

[joe 2]

@sebosfato

Its 2 opposing magnetic fields (primary) like u say, everything is as meyers patents explain,being patents they are hard to read, u only need one inductor (electron inhibit choke) to test this. resonance appears to have little effect on current restriction, with current restriction only a potential difference appears across the plates in the water, thats now ur water capacitor with water ur diaelectric. thats as far as i have got. the transformer coils need to be calculated so it works within the range that gives "resonance" so max. gas production is achieved. i will look thru the patents and post up the formula`s he gives so we can work thru em. personally i hate them co`s there`s allways one number that u just don`t know.

[Giorgos]

What do you have in mind wen you say automated circuit.
do you intend to make a circuit that can lock into the capacitive inductive resonance of the cells. Like Stans PLL circuits?

Yes, that is what i mean

[Giorgos]

Voltage of the VIC???

So, i did some research. I read the patent, and came across this diode: NVR1550
No matter how hard you search, there is no such diode. And then i came across another forum with a dude that had the same problem: could not find this diode. So he suggested that another diode was ment to be written, such as the MUR 1560. If this is true, this diode has a maximum reverse voltage of 600 volts (and a ton of amperes).

cross-checking with the datasheet, little before Stan mentions this diode, he describes an example of a VIC transformer, and tells that, if the input voltage is 12 volts and the transformation ratio is 1:30. then the output voltage of the transformer is 360 volts.

So, for you who have managed to built such a system. The 360 volts (or 600) are enough to break H2O into HHO???

[djzissis]

cross-checking with the datasheet, little before Stan mentions this diode, he describes an example of a VIC transformer, and tells that, if the input voltage is 12 volts and the transformation ratio is 1:30. then the output voltage of the transformer is 360 volts.

So, for you who have managed to built such a system. The 360 volts (or 600) are enough to break H2O into HHO???

Hi there Giorgos and other guys..!!

Stanley says that, the higher the voltage we bring into the Water Fuel Capacitor the bigger the production of HHO. Concerning to the example, he says that THE SECONDARY winding will have 360volts. In every pulse inside the capacitor (after the resonant coils) voltage tends to infinity.! This is the way he restricts the amp flow.

His way to control the hydrogen production after all is to lower or higher the voltage, depending on the user's needs of power.
However, changing the voltage, the resonant frequency point will change too, so, he needed to make a circuit witch constantly auto-tunes the frequency to the instant resonant point. This point may change from second to second, depending on the conditions (temperature, pressure, voltage etc.)

Greetings..!!

[Giorgos]

Hi there Giorgos and other guys..!!
This point may change from second to second, depending on the conditions (temperature, pressure, voltage etc.)

Hello Zissi. I do not think that voltage has anything to do with the resonant frequency. This frequency has to do with the mechanical characteristics of the capacitor, the dielectric (which is water) and the inductance of the inductors.

[djzissis]

Hello Zissi. I do not think that voltage has anything to do with the resonant frequency. This frequency has to do with the mechanical characteristics of the capacitor, the dielectric (which is water) and the inductance of the inductors.

The voltage itself has nothing to do with frequency of course. But think about the dielectric properties of water... Applying different voltage, something in the water may differ, so does capacitance...