Help for Stanley Mayer HHO generator

[Giorgos]

The voltage itself has nothing to do with frequency of course. But think about the dielectric properties of water... Applying different voltage, something in the water may differ, so does capacitance...

The capacitance of the capacitors is always stable and has to do only with the area of the plates, the distance and the dielectric constant of the dielectric material. The voltage is irrelevant (C=e*A/d [F])

What i agree with, is that due to the bubbles, the dielectric constant may differ from the one that the capacitor has before the breakdown procedure starts. but when the bubbles begin, i suppose (and i hope) that there will be no more change, except some tiny changes. Because, there is no possibility for a circuit to be that fast, to detect every second the resonant frequency.

[Giorgos]

End of road for car that ran on Water

Read this:


-> End of road for car that ran on Water
American court finds inventor of water-powered car is guilty of fraud.
Report by Tony Edwards

News item : Stanley Meyer - sci.energy.hydrogen | Google Groups

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

Read this:


-> End of road for car that ran on Water
American court finds inventor of water-powered car is guilty of fraud.
Report by Tony Edwards

News item : Stanley Meyer - sci.energy.hydrogen | Google Groups

This is irrelevant. Look at the conspiracy that took place to get Paul Pantone in a mental institution prison... This kind of thing happens to many inventors/pioneers

The courts are GUILTY OF FRAUD
they are bought and owned by the big business that will be defeated once this technology is available. CONFLICT OF INTEREST

[Giorgos]

do you happen to have something that works? I took a quick look in the forum and found some old posts. h20power said that the production of hydrogen is not the big deal. the big deal in actually the ionization of the gasses.

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

do you happen to have something that works? I took a quick look in the forum and found some old posts. h20power said that the production of hydrogen is not the big deal. the big deal in actually the ionization of the gasses.

There are multiple ways to go about making an internal combustion engine rotate, one of them being combustion of hydrogen... Simple water to steam expansion is an other. Air to expanded plasma (like Papts) is an other. What I have or don't have is irrelevant also.

[Giorgos]

There are multiple ways to go about making an internal combustion engine rotate, one of them being combustion of hydrogen... Simple water to steam expansion is an other. Air to expanded plasma (like Papts) is an other. What I have or don't have is irrelevant also.

it is not irrelevant, it is just a question. i want to know if this system works in real life and if it is efficient enough. I've heard many talking and stories and theories, but no one admits that he has something that works efficiently. That is the point of my question - which you can answer or not.

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

The answer is no in short..
the long of it is, with technology that isn't know about or accepted by 'mainstream', you'd better do your homework before you get into it, or you lose a lot of money, time and resources, so I'm at about 3 years of research now, and based on everything I've learned, STAN IS FOR REAL.

[Giorgos]

SuperCaviTationIstic, i've seen lots of videos in youtube which they claim that they managed to disassociate water into HHO as per stanley. What do you think about them? Do you think that they are fake? or they miss a point or something? that they "THINK' they do it correct?

I am a newcomer to this technology. and that is why i ask such things. I've asked help from those people in youtube as well, but got no answer, which is rather strange.

And then, its this strange post from some user named h20power
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...explained.html

Not safe for me to teach on this site anymore.

It seems that this user had done something cool, but suddenly he disappeared. Was he threatened? Did he open a store to sell this device? Was he a big joke????

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

I'm not sure about that user, but I do remember reading about him before....

As far as other replications/experimenters on youtube and elsewhere,
HHO is a somewhat poor name for the resulting gas produced, it is a generalized term. When water undergoes these electrical processes, MANY different synthetic gasses are produced, based on the impurities in the water, the other dissolved atmospheric gasses in the water, and the different microscopic clusters of atoms that form. As far as synthesizing a combustible gas, I do believe many succeed.

When it comes to doing it as Stan did, I highly doubt many, if any did it. Stan did a few different things, and it seems NO ONE has actually removed electrons from the mix after ionization, as Stan did. Ultimately, I think his final way of doing it was based on his advanced understanding of Tesla's disruptive discharge methods, for use in his final water injector ignitor, NOT the one you can find pictures of, with the multiple ionizers and u.v. injection, that was an earlier attempt. If you look at one of Stan's final patents, the one that INSTANTLY releases Thermal Explosive Energy, he designed a disruptive discharge impulse coil, based around an IRON core!

Anyway, I guess the moral of the story is, there are unlimited ways to accomplish the end goal, but there are simpler ways than others, and some are safer than others. It's a very expensive game to play if you're experimenting on a car engine. If I had the capital to invest, I would buy/make a Tesla bladeless turbine, to run with disruptive discharge firing, perhaps with just atmospheric air or water to steam, driving a generator and then have a electric motor powering my vehicle.

[metamorpheus]

the gate pulse is "on" .....not off... in several diagrams,you will see the opto coupler with a mysterious switch (like sw3) which changes the state from dynamic to static. The pulses are changing over time...df/dt and then popped back into frame(its original time continuum) .

[metamorpheus]

In reference to the center tap amp inhibiting coil, I believe it is a separate unit from the vic, which has a positive orientation (high voltage resonant positive lead connected to the center tap of his secondary, this gives the secondary an initial value, and creates an asymmetry in the unit. you will find this drawing in the tech briefing "voltage wave guide", it is featured in both the vic and the Y phase (trinity) wound alternator. He was sucking electrons out of not just the water bath, but his actual circuit. The value he labeled this was 617
so the progression was SS'-617-RR'-T3

[metamorpheus]

I will say this much, stan's work is difficult to figure out (not impossible) simply because it appears he may have been doing several different things at once. It may have been a combination of various effects acting together, much like when inductance,capacitance, resistance and frequency work together. he probably used these 4 variables with an added rotational one.

‪Stan Meyers Circuit TOP SECRET‬‏ - YouTube

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