Water Sparkplug 2

[adurer]

Conclusions

Can anyone summarize threads Water Sparkplug + Water Sparkplug 2?
What are conclusions so far? Any solid result?
Anything practical and replicable came out?

[Aaron]

plasma ignition

Gmeast had 43% increase on his VW with plasma and some water vapor injection and leaned out his jets.

I use it on my jet and leave it running even after flame tube is up to temp, with recycling the exhaust through water and injecting that back to intake as hot vapor, propane use dropped significantly.

I'm posting future updates here: http://www.energyscienceforum.com/internal-combustion-engines/689-plasma-ignition-|-plasma-jet-ignition.html

[adurer]

Gmeast had 43% increase on his VW with plasma and some water vapor injection and leaned out his jets.

gmeast's photos/schematics/videos don't exist anymore in this forum. Why?

[Aaron]

Gmeast/Gred's vw plasma results

They should all be in the threads unless he removed them.

[adurer]

They should all be in the threads unless he removed them.

Great. He removed them. So according to your previous reply, the most important conclusion after 104 pages is we don't have anything to look at anymore...

[Mineko]

Just a friendly word of advice Aaron, a lot of people selling books and other things using that website format are usually scammers..

I'm not saying you are, but that format's been so abused it might make you more money and win more trust to switch over to a different design than the "one big long page" thing with the testimonials and all, perhaps organizing related topics into different tabs in you next endeavors.

[jonabel1971]

FREE PLANS - The original Stan Meyer water-injecting spark plug

Here you go everybody. This is was Stan's original plans to build a water-injecting spark plug.

They have been converted to 3d CAD files at the bottom of the page - for anybody who wants to build Stan's model.

The plans for the VIC coil FOR this injector is also at the same link:

Stanley Meyer WFC “Water Injectorâ€� Technology « « RWGResearchRWGResearch

All are downloadable. Go get them!

[Aaron]

plasma ignition

the most important conclusion after 104 pages is we don't have anything to look at anymore...

If that is your conclusion, then you need to go research something else.

There are quite a few people that have put the plasma in their vehicles based on the information in these threads and from the Ignition Secrets by Aaron Murakami | Plasma Ignition package.

I run the plasma on my jet engine and gas generator and I'm under no obligation to share anything with you and neither is anyone else.

Do the experiments, period.

[Aaron]

@Mineko

Just a friendly word of advice Aaron, a lot of people selling books and other things using that website format are usually scammers..

I'm not saying you are, but that format's been so abused it might make you more money and win more trust to switch over to a different design than the "one big long page" thing with the testimonials and all, perhaps organizing related topics into different tabs in you next endeavors.

Thanks, but you're free to take your own advice. Cars have been used in bank robberies so maybe you should never drive a car again. I could care less that there are scammers out there selling ebooks.

[Aaron]

Stan Meyer injector technology NEVER WORKED

Here you go everybody. This is was Stan's original plans to build a water-injecting spark plug.

They have been converted to 3d CAD files at the bottom of the page - for anybody who wants to build Stan's model.

The plans for the VIC coil FOR this injector is also at the same link:

Stanley Meyer WFC “Water Injectorâ€� Technology « « RWGResearchRWGResearch

All are downloadable. Go get them!

This is OFF TOPIC and has absolutely NOTHING to do with this plasma ignition. This form of plasma ignition was developed way before Stan Meyer was ever involved in water research!

Instead of setting people on the wrong track with his injectors - there is one crucial piece of information that you need to understand before more people waste their time. Meyer wanted to have this available to make it easy for people to retrofit their cars. Well, guess what? Stan Meyer NEVER got the injector system to work!

[jonabel1971]

Actually, Stan did get those injectors working on a bench-top (before he died), so it's definitely worth continuing to research.

Off-topic? Hardly, the title of your thread says Water SparkPlug 2.

And speaking of "off-topic" - I've seen both you - and Tutanka - invade other people's threads (just to plug books, or sell a circuit).

But, you act self-righteous anyway. Why do you do that, Aaron?

So, I have every right to talk about Stan's Water Sparkplug, unless you decide to be more specific with your title.

Go ahead Aaron, start another war with me, and I will take a few more with me again.

This is OFF TOPIC and has absolutely NOTHING to do with this plasma ignition. This form of plasma ignition was developed way before Stan Meyer was ever involved in water research!

Instead of setting people on the wrong track with his injectors - there is one crucial piece of information that you need to understand before more people waste their time. Meyer wanted to have this available to make it easy for people to retrofit their cars. Well, guess what? Stan Meyer NEVER got the injector system to work!

[Aaron]

Jon Abel - false claims

Actually, Stan did get those injectors working on a bench-top (before he died), so it's definitely worth continuing to research.

Off-topic? Hardly, the title of your thread says Water SparkPlug 2.

And speaking of "off-topic" - I've seen both you - and Tutanka - invade other people's threads (just to plug books, or sell a circuit).

But, you act self-righteous anyway. Why do you do that, Aaron?

So, I have every right to talk about Stan's Water Sparkplug, unless you decide to be more specific with your title.

Go ahead Aaron, start another war with me, and I will take a few more with me again.

Why don't you actually READ what the purpose of this thread is. PLASMA JET IGNITION, period. And you don't know what Meyer had working or not.

You've never build the injectors or had any results, but of course you want everyone to go download the cad files and build them - that lacks any kind of common sense whatsoever. You really need to stop abusing people in this way.

Don't threaten me Jon - next to h2opower, you're the only Meyer researcher trying to get a name for himself that has actually lied to everyone about what Meyer actually said. You denied Meyer ever talked about Nitrogen - your Meyer "expertise" is a farce.

Birds of a feather flock together - so any weasels who want to support your coverup and denial of Meyer's documents that I PROVED to exist are welcome to go with you and join the Jon Abel club of delusional reality.

You badmouth Michael J.N. work about not having anything to do with Meyer - they were friends and he knows more about Meyer's work on his little pinky than you have gathered in all your months of research combined. But of course you wouldn't know that seeing that you don't even know how to use the search function and 100% of all the MULTIPLE Meyer patents that spell out NITROGEN has obviously evaded you.

Meyer was creating SYNGAS plain and simple and he spells that out word for word too, but you of course can deny that and probably will since you have proven yourself to be someone that actually wants to keep the truth about Meyer away from everyone.

[jonabel1971]

Once again, I have nothing to lose or gain by sharing my research.
Any accusations implied (by you or anyone else here selling ) are open to scrutiny.

So, why do I need to lie? It is yourself that is mirroring your own actions on me.
That's why its easy to keep criticizing you - because I don't suffer from the money bias.

Please - keep it coming - Aaron. In the mean time, even more people are starting to understand that you are just upset - because I give it away. I happily and consciously veer people to free over "not free" - including your own brand of "not free".

Good luck selling books - nature boy.

Why don't you actually READ what the purpose of this thread is. PLASMA JET IGNITION, period. And you don't know what Meyer had working or not.

You've never build the injectors or had any results, but of course you want everyone to go download the cad files and build them - that lacks any kind of common sense whatsoever. You really need to stop abusing people in this way.

Don't threaten me Jon - next to h2opower, you're the only Meyer researcher trying to get a name for himself that has actually lied to everyone about what Meyer actually said. You denied Meyer ever talked about Nitrogen - your Meyer "expertise" is a farce.

Birds of a feather flock together - so any weasels who want to support your coverup and denial of Meyer's documents that I PROVED to exist are welcome to go with you and join the Jon Abel club of delusional reality.

You badmouth Michael J.N. work about not having anything to do with Meyer - they were friends and he knows more about Meyer's work on his little pinky than you have gathered in all your months of research combined. But of course you wouldn't know that seeing that you don't even know how to use the search function and 100% of all the MULTIPLE Meyer patents that spell out NITROGEN has obviously evaded you.

Meyer was creating SYNGAS plain and simple and he spells that out word for word too, but you of course can deny that and probably will since you have proven yourself to be someone that actually wants to keep the truth about Meyer away from everyone.

[Aaron]

address the points

Why don't you actually READ what the purpose of this thread is. PLASMA JET IGNITION, period. And you don't know what Meyer had working or not.

You've never build the injectors or had any results, but of course you want everyone to go download the cad files and build them - that lacks any kind of common sense whatsoever. You really need to stop abusing people in this way.

Don't threaten me Jon - next to h2opower, you're the only Meyer researcher trying to get a name for himself that has actually lied to everyone about what Meyer actually said. You denied Meyer ever talked about Nitrogen - your Meyer "expertise" is a farce.

Birds of a feather flock together - so any weasels who want to support your coverup and denial of Meyer's documents that I PROVED to exist are welcome to go with you and join the Jon Abel club of delusional reality.

You badmouth Michael J.N. work about not having anything to do with Meyer - they were friends and he knows more about Meyer's work on his little pinky than you have gathered in all your months of research combined. But of course you wouldn't know that seeing that you don't even know how to use the search function and 100% of all the MULTIPLE Meyer patents that spell out NITROGEN has obviously evaded you.

Meyer was creating SYNGAS plain and simple and he spells that out word for word too, but you of course can deny that and probably will since you have proven yourself to be someone that actually wants to keep the truth about Meyer away from everyone.

You addressed nothing of relevance from my post.

[Aaron]

Stan Meyer injectors - NITROGEN MIXING

Just so everyone can see.... you (Jon Abel) claim Meyer never talked about Nitrogen and you make fun of any reference regarding Meyer and Nitrogen. You reference the injectors and you don't even understand anything about them! You claim Meyer never even mentioned the word nitrogen and here you are pushing the injectors which is all about ionized nitrogen mixing to create a non-volatile fuel! I've already shown MANY references in Meyer's own words about NITROGEN in his own patents. He defined the non-combustible gases as nitrogen and here you go... #3 is the all important nitrogen from the air to slow the burn of the water fuel - without mixing ionized nitrogen, the entire concept of what Meyer was about is non-existent.