Looks like H20power was correct?

[Unite]

joe 2 there are a good amount of videos showing off the Stanly Meyers water fuel cell showing the gas output usually by showing the output hho gas threw a tube filling a container in a bucket of water like a litter bottle/glass jar i just searched for it and couldn't refind it but i know iv seen them. when i do refind it ill post it however i g2g for now. i stumbled on them when searching hard on YouTube for evidence (im more then convinced with what iv found) and it will probably take me a while to find again sense it did take awhile the first time.

pce

[Karl]

No I am not H2opower, just someone trying to bring him some justice after the Ney sayers & disinformation agents drove a big hearted fella off this board for sharing sound information.
No time to read all your posts will catch up tomorrow
Regards
Karl

[chasson321]

8XA Circuit

I do try to understand Meyers circuit. One of the problems is that I have seen at least 10 different interpretations of it in schematic form and i'm really not sure which is most authentic anymore. Speaking of which. Is there a link to H2opowers current schematic design? Joe, do you know the name of H2opowers other thread here?

h2opower is using this 8XA circuit from Tony Woodside's site.

Tim

Warning the schematic is wrong! The connections to the H11D1 are reversed. The resistor connected to pin 4 on the H11D1 should be changed to pin 5 which is the input. Pin 5 connection switched to pin 4.

[joe 2]

@chasson321

The vic for the injectors is unknown to me, the ferrous wire used and for what coils will be for my competent slaves to find out if the time comes and hopefully there will be nothing more that.
Good luck with current research


@unite

I feel battle lines forming with a no mans land inbetween, there is no need i only wish to find the truth. Does ravi`s, lawton ect cell work with tap water? If it does i have no problem becouse that really is a good thing. I have heard it is x3 faraday but can find no definite proof it works, u tube vids are ok but proof is needed for this technology has been around long enough.
I looked into this technology a few years ago and was not convinced, i have also looked into its history. Does it work unite? lets have a meeting of minds.

Let me say again ravi lawton ect technology working or not is NOT meyers technology.

[sucahyo]

Thedude, thank for the info. A friend just ask what is the benefit of radiant charger for electrolysis and I only mention to avoid catalyst use. I will relay your info .


BTW, using pure HHO is not meyer's way. He mention getting HHO to burn slower is his number one invention.

I wonder why NO ONE ever try to use slower burn HHO output.

[Karl]

Here is a 8XA circuit modified by H2opower (I believe) that no longer needs the adapted alternator as a power source, it will now run straight off a battery
This is the one I guess in the youtube clip
8XA_component_values_complete_circuit.jpg

[jtanguay]

Thedude, thank for the info. A friend just ask what is the benefit of radiant charger for electrolysis and I only mention to avoid catalyst use. I will relay your info .


BTW, using pure HHO is not meyer's way. He mention getting HHO to burn slower is his number one invention.

I wonder why NO ONE ever try to use slower burn HHO output.

I'm pretty sure the 'slow burn' was to reduce the burn rate of the HHO to that of natural gas or even burning leaves as he put it so that it could be modified to run on propane or natural gas heaters/appliances.

[thedude]

Thedude, thank for the info. A friend just ask what is the benefit of radiant charger for electrolysis and I only mention to avoid catalyst use. I will relay your info .

BTW, using pure HHO is not meyer's way. He mention getting HHO to burn slower is his number one invention.

I wonder why NO ONE ever try to use slower burn HHO output.

Yes. I do believe i'm primarily correct with this info. Just as oxidization will come off the plates of a battery through negative potential. I feel that there is a similar effect upon the metals of our HHO cells. In batteries, positive Ion flow creates heat, our radiant chargers keep the battery cool though the opposite. These are just my opinions suchayo, so we all need to make our call on this. I spent a lot of time testing my old cells with both forms of current flow and that is what i found anyway.

I believe the secret to burning it slower is in hydrogen's separation from oxygen. Here is a video of my first fuel cell, actually running quite poorly at this time in retrospect, using water to boil water. Don't worry it goes to time lapse as soon as the container hits the flame. Once the oxygen is out of there hydrogen burns expansively and emits radiant heat. And recombines water the whole time as it is not forced to evaporate through excessive heat (until left in one spot for too long of course). I was loosing a lot of amps in the set up in this video through some expensive, but faulty quick connectors. Here is a shot of the recombining water.


Thanks chasson321. Great to see this schematic! I have to admit that i'm not the best with electrical engineering. I takes me a long time to understand what i'm looking at. Actually I really don't get it until i build something it seems. Its progressive though. I'm doing better at this with each year. One good thing now is that I have more components to work with now. I appreciate the schematic.

[Karl]

Thedude, thank for the info. A friend just ask what is the benefit of radiant charger for electrolysis and I only mention to avoid catalyst use. I will relay your info .


BTW, using pure HHO is not meyer's way. He mention getting HHO to burn slower is his number one invention.

I wonder why NO ONE ever try to use slower burn HHO output.

That is most likely where the gas gun came in Meyers probably made a form of N2O, but the disassociation of the HHO likely is Meyer's way, why try to confuse people?
let just get a small generator running on what we do know & take it from there

[sucahyo]

Thanks thedude, I only make table top electrolysis with radiant but I agree too.


Karl, tweaking the engine is a very big hurdle when using pure HHO. Slowing down HHO burn rate is a shortcut.

thedude, do you think yours can be used for high output HHO

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Here is a 8XA circuit modified by H2opower (I believe) that no longer needs the adapted alternator as a power source, it will now run straight off a battery
This is the one I guess in the youtube clip
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In the attachment, what is the wave form? well it is a carrier with an AM modulation, one frequency with another lower as modulation.

I have seen most of Stans work first hand with my own eyes, I know what is the truth to how he did it, I saw it in a couple of hours of seeing his circuits for real, though it only confirmed what I new before.

Another thing is a lot of his work was copied from others and manipulated to seem it was all his doing, sorry but what H2Opower is doing is a waste of time and money. You may as well use a Faraday cell and change the gas afterwards, the changing of the gas IS THE KEY and nothing else.

By the way the injectors NEVER WORKED, they could, but there is a design fault, the system is so simple you would kick yourself. You would be better off looking at the system of plasma ignition but that alone is not the complete process but comes close.

The whole process takes place from start of process to finish of combustion in MICRO SECOUNDS when a system of injector plugs is used.

Mike

[Karl]

Karl, tweaking the engine is a very big hurdle when using pure HHO. Slowing down HHO burn rate is a shortcut.

Then tell us exactly how, maybe with videos of your progress so far, like H2Opower has, or please leave us alone to learn for ourselves, as giving a snippet of information is no information at all & could be dis-information for all we know, all you seem to be doing at this point is complicating things
Regards
Karl
Edit MJN can we have a look at all your Meyer's work too? or is it hearsay, maybe the above applies to you also, are you coming out with your system any time soon that was promised in January?

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Then tell us exactly how, maybe with videos of your progress so far, like H2Opower has, or please leave us alone to learn for ourselves, as giving a snippet of information is no information at all & could be dis-information for all we know, all you seem to be doing at this point is complicating things
Regards
Karl
Edit MJN can we have a look at all your Meyer's work too? or is it hearsay, maybe the above applies to you also, are you coming out with your system any time soon that was promised in January?

I do not have any work OF MEYER, I only have MY WORK and I have just finished a replication of what was the first generation reactor. The secound generation reactor is still ongoing and is not to just run a converted car, it is a big leap in molecular manipulation which can be used for many many things apart from making synthetic fuel.

As far as Meyer is concerned you know I have seen all his work or do I need to show you a photo of me sitting in his car?

Mike

[Aaron]

banned

No I am not H2opower, just someone trying to bring him some justice after the Ney sayers & disinformation agents drove a big hearted fella off this board for sharing sound information.
No time to read all your posts will catch up tomorrow
Regards
Karl

He is gone because of his THREATS and INSULTS to people that believe
differently than him - NOT because of his opinions about Meyer - so
GET OVER IT.

You're calling me a disinformation agent? I'm the one who banned him.

[ImJacksAmygdala]

Easy guys we are all on the same team here. Its just the passion of innovation that can get in the way.

I would like to add that just today I finally saw an experiment where the burn rate of hydrogen and oxygen was changed when attempting to ionize the gas using an ozone ionizer.

YouTube - ‪Validating Stanley Meyer's-Ionised and Magnetic gas‬‏

The gas has clearly been altered so that the explosive thermal energy released with ignition is much less. however he did not attempt to extract the liberated electrons with a collector plate.