Fuel cell and atomic hydrogen

[Franco malgarini]

Looking the functioning of a fuel cell, we note on the anode were produced ions H+ and electrons.
If on the catode were is not oxygen, we obtain, not water, but H atoms
(H+ plus an electron), with production of electrical current.
The ricombination of atomic hydrogen in molecular hydrogen H2,
we take enormus heat andH2 for recycle.
Excuse my english imperfect:

[kyle]

There are several kinds of fuel cells, and each operates a bit differently. But in general terms, hydrogen atoms enter a fuel cell at the anode where a chemical reaction strips them of their electrons. Oxygen enters the fuel cell at the cathode and, in some cell types and combines with electrons returning from the electrical circuit and hydrogen ions that have traveled through the electrolyte from the anode.

This image shows you, actually how hydrogen fuel cell work and generate electricity.


Regards Kyle

[Savvypro]

Looking the functioning of a fuel cell, we note on the anode were produced ions H+ and electrons.
If on the catode were is not oxygen, we obtain, not water, but H atoms
(H+ plus an electron), with production of electrical current.
The ricombination of atomic hydrogen in molecular hydrogen H2,
we take enormus heat andH2 for recycle.
Excuse my english imperfect:

I think I understand where you going with the idea, however from what I remember reading about how the fuel cell works at a molecular level. Where the hydrogen, in order to pass through the “membrane”, it becomes part of the molecules that make up the “membrane”. In a atomic hydrogen furnace the idea is that the h2 becomes 2h and gains energy from the vacuum, ether, local environment - what ever you want to call it. It’s this separation which is the key, in a fuel cell there is no separation because the h2 splits and becomes part of the carbon chains while it moves through the membrane then combines with oxygen.

[Franco malgarini]

In this fuel cell there is not oxygen!

Please there is someone who has a little fuel cell for a speedy experiment?

[Franco malgarini]

Atomic hearth

J named this devise "Atomic hearth" because is pulsating:

H2 H+ H H2 H+ H H2 H+ H H2, etc.

The COP is infinite, because:

E entry/ E exit = 100W/0 = infinite

[Franco malgarini]

Excuse me:

E exit/ E entry = infinite

[Franco malgarini]

Experiment

The experiment is very simply:

you take a little single fuel cell PEM with hydrogen and oxygen,

you misure ddp and temperature at the catode.

After you misure ddp and temperature at the catode without O2,

if temperature arise, there is atomic hydrogen at the catode.

Please, you make this experiment!!!

[Franco malgarini]

The ricombination of O2 occur for elettronegativity, than spontaneously.
If remove O2, the hydrogen don't recombine and electron don't run.
There is possible use another gas at the catode for functioning the cell and for occur reaction H+ + e- = H .......?????

[Franco malgarini]

J now don't use the fuel cell, but this circuit,
consider that:

H2 + Pt = 2H.Pt

it's similar to Rossi's E-cat

[leo48]

But Franco.. Pt is very precius €€€€€?
ciao

Leo48

[Franco malgarini]

J would like to use platinum sponge or foam...

[leo48]

J would like to use platinum sponge or foam...

Ahh this is another what
(Ahh questa è un'altra cosa............)
Leo48

[Franco malgarini]

We can also produce atomic oxygen with this apparatus:

[Franco malgarini]

We can also produce atomic nitrogen...

Now j am understanding why the platinum is precius!

But we must extract the atom from platinum sponge...

help me

[ZeroMassInertia]

Very interesting subject, car catalytic converters have used platinum for many years. Do you think we can use this resource to produce atomic gasses?
HowStuffWorks "How Catalytic Converters Work"