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  • Comments after the Irvine presentation

    Dear B,

    Attached are the pictures taken at the lake. I am also attaching the presentation file used yesterday. The same files are available at:
    United Nations Seminar/Workshop

    Some key mathematical analysis papers H asked for are:

    1. Brown University
    2. viXra.org e-Print archive, viXra:1104.0052, Energy Multiplier in Retarded Resonance

    The first one is on the theory and experiments behind the James Kwok Hidro. That device is being promoted as a commercial product.

    The second one is strongly related to my FLEET prototypes.

    The understanding of the above papers will help to understand the workings of such devices.

    Regards to you and family,

    Lawrence
    Some interesting comments on the two hour presentation:

    Comment 1: “Firing a toy water rocket up is known for decades if not centuries. Firing it up in a water tube is similar to firing a torpedo. The force and energy involved is much more than those due to the rocket sinking to the bottom of the water tube under gravity. Some of the comments on the Internet assuming the James Kwok Hidro is a gravity wheel type device are obviously wrong.”

    Comment 2: “Some comments accusing James Kwok as hoax are obviously short-sighted. The debunkers have not done their homework.”

    Comment 3: “The Hidro is not a device that can go to every home. I like the FLEET better.”

    Comment 4: “The displayed standing wave is absolute evidence of resonance. If that were so, can you wind another secondary that is identical to the first secondary? That should show resonance too. It would be like two tuning forks in resonance. Can you repeat that to have multiple secondary circuits?”

    Comment 5: “If two identical secondary LCR circuits are in resonance, can they reinforce each other? Can we remove the starting battery?”

    Tseung: “One group in Hong Kong mentioned that to me. I do not have the setup to verify that yet.”

    Comment 6: “If things are so easy, why is FLEET not on the market now?”

    Comment 7: “Dr. C et al took the information to China. They believed that they could turn the concept into a product relatively quickly. They were one of those who confirmed that the Output Power Curve was a standing wave.”

    Tseung: “It is Easter. Jesus was crucified and rose from the dead. Miracles happened. I believe in Divine Revelations and Miracles. I know that the James Kwok Hidro is not a hoax. I know that the FLEET standing waves are not hoaxes. The theory behind them is clearly revealed. It will be God’s timing when such products are available to benefit the masses. Amen.”

    Comment 8: “I do not believe in Miracles. But I believe in tuning forks and multiple LCR resonance circuits.”

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    • The Double Secondary FLEET

      The Double Secondary FLEET

      Is the Steven Mark TPU secret totally out?

      The following is the edited conversation with a Hong Kong Bring-in Energy Researcher.

      Researcher: “Mr. Tseung, your best FLEET prototype could remain lighted without the battery for 30 seconds in 2010. Can you do better now?”

      Tseung: “I do not have any equipment in USA to do the tuning and testing.”

      Researcher: “You mean that you stopped the experiments?”

      Tseung: “Have you achieved any major breakthrough yet?”

      Researcher: “I am not telling. Just wish Luck for both of us.”
      The attached picture is the double secondary FLEET I used in Hong Kong. At that time, I used it to demonstrate FLEET. Note that it had two almost identical Secondary Coils. When I used them as two separate secondary coils, both could light LEDs. After much tuning, I could take away the battery on the Joule Thief circuit. The two LEDs on the secondary circuits remained on (got dimmer and dimmer) for about 30 seconds.

      I focused on the Seminars and Workshops at Hong Kong University and put this on the back burner. Now, after I have completed the multiple tuning fork theory and mathematical modeling, I believe I may be able to treat each of the secondary (LCR) circuit as a tuning fork. Multiple tuning forks can produce sympathetic vibrations. The resulting sound can be louder and last longer.

      My two secondary LCR circuits may be doing something similar. It is relatively easy to add more secondary LCRs. But the trick is to get them into resonance with the basic Joule Thief Circuit first! That is not a problem for the bring-in energy researchers in Hong Kong and China. Many teams have two oscilloscopes.

      Is this the secret of Steven Mark device? Is this what the Hong Kong Researcher implied? Will this be a good direction to take?

      God works Miracles according to His timing. I had the standing wave and did not realize it. I had the multiple LCR circuits resonating (sympathetic vibrating) without realizing it. The Joule Ringer is a multiple LCR resonating circuit. The double secondary FLEET is also a multiple LCR resonating circuit. Amen.
      Attached Files
      Last edited by ltseung888; 04-30-2011, 03:51 PM.

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      • dose mean the tuning forks are out?

        cheers ztec2002.

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        • Originally posted by ztec2002 View Post
          does that mean the tuning forks are out?

          cheers ztec2002.
          It means the theory of tuning forks will be studied in its glorious detail. However, no experimental attempts will be tried to extract the kinetic energy of the air molecules via the tuning forks.

          The tuning fork theory will be applied to LCR resonance circuits. We shall play with multiple LCR circuits. If additional LCR circuits can bring-in more energy (louder and longer sound scenario?), we are home. It is not practical to have hundreds of tuning forks. However, having hundreds or thousands of LCR circuits on a circuit board is very practical and is within the capability of our top electronics engineers.

          The Divine Revelations cannot be wrong. The human mind is too limited to grasp their full meanings in a single session. Fortunately, we are working on God’s timing. We do not need to please any Human Boss or Investors. Amen.

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          • Another alternative energy technology - cold fusion?

            Mr. Andrew Wong is one of the Directors at Yuen Fat in Hong Kong. They were one of the investors of the 225 HP Pulse Motor in USA. They claimed to have connections in USA, China and United Nations.

            I never figured out exactly what they represented. But they appeared to have funds and connections to do things – especially in the alternative energy area.

            When Inventions can change the World Power Structure, politics is inevitable.

            Just trust the Lord. Things will work according to His Wishes and His Timing. Amen.

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            • Mathematician joining the team

              The Divine Revelations further clarified by qualified mathematicians

              We now have a mathematician, Mr. Harvey Kertland, joining us in working with the United Nations. His first task is to check out and improve the mathematical models. One suggestion is to separate the presentation into a layman version and a mathematician version.

              The layman version aims to provide basic understanding. It will be simplified for that purpose. It will be easier for the layman to follow. Another vigorous model for the mathematicians will also be available. The vigorous model will satisfy the top academics who demand “perfect” or “accurate” results.

              An example is the Pulsed Pendulum Model. The simplified model for the layman focuses on:
              1. When a horizontal force is applied to the bob of a pendulum, the pendulum bob will be displaced both horizontally and vertically.
              2. The simplified model will examine the work done or energy in the vertical and horizontal directions.
              3. The horizontal work is done by the supplied horizontal force times the horizontal displacement. (Input Energy)
              4. The vertical work is done by the tension in the string. It is the weight of the pendulum bob times the vertical displacement (Lead-out Gravitational energy).
              5. The total Output Energy is the sum of 3 and 4.
              6. For small angles, two parts of horizontal energy can lead-out/bring-in one part of vertical (gravitational) energy.

              This simplified approach does not need any integration and the result is approximately correct.

              The more vigorous model will not assume a constant horizontal force. In the case of a pendulum, the horizontal force will be opposed by the horizontal component of the tension of the string. That horizontal component will vary with the angle the pendulum makes with the vertical. Thus the more exact horizontal work done is the integral of this varying force times the incremental horizontal displacement. This vigorous model will be available to those who wanted it. (We expect many participants of the United Nations Seminars/Workshops fall into this category.)

              The same will apply to the “tuning fork bringing-in kinetic energy of air molecules” model and the soda bottle rocket model. It is good to have a qualified and reputable mathematician on board.

              We now look for qualified EE Engineers who can turn the trial and error resonance tuning process into a more vigorous science. You are welcome to PM me.

              We put our destiny in the hands of the Almighty and work according to His timing. He will send his Angels to overcome obstacles when our human brain power is insufficient. Amen.

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              • Multiple LCR resonance circuits

                Once the mathematics of the tuning fork and the pulse-pushed pendulum were done, it was clear that multiple LCR circuits could bring-in electron motion energy via resonance pulsing.

                The tuning will require oscilloscopes and a DC pulsing source. Resonance at "natural frequency" is needed.

                The following is the simple conceptual diagram.

                Divine Revelation 3 is very clear now. Bless the Lord.
                Attached Files

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                • Comments on the pulsed pendulum mathematics

                  Comments on the pulsed pendulum mathematics

                  It looks like someone has problem in understanding the physics and mathematics of the pulse-pushed/pulled pendulum.


                  Also, while I have a very solid understanding of resonant systems and the real fact that the impedance of such systems is dropped to a minimum thereby allowing energy from the environment to be exchanged through that lower impedance - I must state forthrightly that your math on the pendulum is flawed.

                  The concept is no different than an Olympian pole vaulter who uses a strictly horizontal energy to gain vertical translation - he is nothing more than an inverted pendulum bob on an energy storing flexible rod - something clock makers have known for centuries. The pendulum is a basic machine and that machine provides the conversion of tension into Y forces where that tension is provided by the X forces. I have clearly provided a force graph for you that demonstrates how the X force increases as the tension increases, and it is from there that the energy is put in. When you do a real experiment, you will find that the true energy you put in will equal the X and Y parts as you have calculated. There is no gain.
                  I shall put down the explanation one more time.

                  1. A pendulum is different from other simple machines that convert X direction forces to Y direction forces. It oscillates. The comparison should be with vibrating systems and NOT pole vaulters.

                  2. When we push or pull the pendulum bulb horizontally, the tension in the string will increase. The horizontal component of the tension (X) will oppose the supplied horizontal force. Horizontal work will be done as there is horizontal force and horizontal displacement. That work is totally supplied by the horizontal force.

                  3. In the case of the pendulum, the tension will have a vertical component that is equal to the Weight of the pendulum bob. Vertical work will be done as there is vertical force and vertical displacement. This vertical work is NOT done by the horizontal force! It is done by the vertical component of the tension of the string against gravity.

                  4. Thus in the case of a pulse-pushed/pulled pendulum, the supplied horizontal force (and energy) will lead-out/bring-in gravitational energy.

                  5. This leading-in/bringing out gravitational energy does not occur in other simple machines such as the inclined plane, the pulley or the pole vaulter.

                  Divine Revelations cannot be wrong. Simple Laws of Physics and Mathematics cannot be wrong.
                  Last edited by ltseung888; 05-20-2011, 04:13 PM.

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                  • Forced Resonance and Natural Resonance multiple LCR circuits

                    Originally posted by ltseung888 View Post
                    Once the mathematics of the tuning fork and the pulse-pushed pendulum were done, it was clear that multiple LCR circuits could bring-in electron motion energy via resonance pulsing.

                    The tuning will require oscilloscopes and a DC pulsing source. Resonance at "natural frequency" is needed.

                    The following is the simple conceptual diagram.

                    Divine Revelation 3 is very clear now. Bless the Lord.
                    From a researcher who listened to my presentation in USA:

                    I added a fourth winding next to the other three and applied this to be the base drive winding. This allowed me to use the other two windings as sympathetic resonators. I tuned them to the driven resonance of the primary system and observed amplitudes on both that were greater than the amplitude of the primary. However, please note that no loads were placed on these and that power in them was fully reactive. I honestly expected much higher amplitudes and have concluded that these were being loaded magnetically and that energy was being consumed in the primary circuit. This too needs to be researched and fully identified. I did not find any condition where I could remove the batteries and have the system continue to run.
                    There is a difference between forced resonance with multiple LCR circuits and
                    Natural resonance with multiple LCR circuits. The forced resonance can be done without regard to the physical setup. The LCR circuits will resonate using the physical setup as a frame or "support".

                    The Natural resonance with multiple LCR circuits requires the tuning to be resonating with the physical setup. The Steven Mark TPU has a natural vibration.

                    In our testing, we can first use forced resonance to get an understanding. Later, we can go for natural resonance. The flyback transformer in resonance by Observer is a good example of natural resonance. Your not finding “any condition that you could remove the batteries and have the system continue to run” is probably due to your using forced resonance. Sooner or later, you will hit on Natural resonance. Your scope shots should show a huge jump (more than 10 times) in amplitude – not just a few times increase.

                    Praise the Lord. He has given us infinite energy. We just need to learn how to use it. Amen.

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                    • Keep up the good work you are not alone!!

                      Hi Lawrence,

                      I just wanted to say keep up the good work you are not alone!! I have been experimenting with magnets and coils for over a year now. I am also a fan of John Bedini's work. A couple of months back I came across the joule thief circuit on the internet and thought that was something I have to replicate. I like the circuit and what it is capable of doing.

                      From the begining I realised the power was not in the joule thief circuit its self but in the what i call the tertiary winding - another words take a basic jt and wrap a third wire or wind it as trifilar. Very soon I was running additional loads, charging up caps and batteries of this third winding.

                      I have noticed a couple of interesting side effects - charging up rechargeable AA batteries with this pulsed circuit (after a while of conditioning) allows the batteries to charge up very quickly and hold more of a charge than previously.

                      Next thing I tried was connecting a second trifilar coil to the output of my original third winding on the jt and I witnessed the second coil going into resonance with the first coil. My input battery was basically dead showing 0.431volts across it. I had an LED coming of the collector of the transistor and after I connected the second coil within a few seconds the LED pulsed and then went out. (I had been going to insert another battery to test the new circuit but never got the chance) - I metered the battery voltage it showed 0.435 volts and as I went to take my meter off the voltage started rising and it went to 0.615 volts the led flashed and the voltage dropped. The circuit has been running like that for two weeks now (meter is not part of the circuit) - it is in a continous cycle of charging up to approx 0.655 volts, the led flashes, the voltage drops and then it does it all over again. The cycle repeats every 20 seconds (approx). Even if I take the LED out (ie the load) this cycle remains constant.

                      If I unclip the second coil the circuit goes "dead", if I clip the second coil back in it starts up again. This has to be the resonance you are talking about or as John Bedini disccusses with accessing zero point energy.

                      What do you think? I have now modified the circuit and I have diverted the output of the second coil (via a bridge rectifier) into the jt circuit. The battery voltage has stayed constant at .615 volts (actually slightly increased by 0.002 of a volt over the last 12 hours. The led has stayed lit allbeit it is not very bright (but that level of brightness has stayed constant). And the circuit seems to be self running with a very small load.

                      So I do believe like you resonance is key, but also accessing the zero point energy with this circuit as John Bedini describes. I do not have a scope, so can't take measurements like you do, however I believe the proof is in the physical running of the unit - which mine is doing and I just wanted to support what you are doing.

                      I will continue to experiment - good luck

                      Thanks

                      Mark

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                      • Originally posted by MarkC View Post
                        Hi Lawrence,

                        ….

                        Next thing I tried was connecting a second trifilar coil to the output of my original third winding on the jt and I witnessed the second coil going into resonance with the first coil. My input battery was basically dead showing 0.431volts across it. I had an LED coming of the collector of the transistor and after I connected the second coil within a few seconds the LED pulsed and then went out. (I had been going to insert another battery to test the new circuit but never got the chance) - I metered the battery voltage it showed 0.435 volts and as I went to take my meter off the voltage started rising and it went to 0.615 volts the led flashed and the voltage dropped. The circuit has been running like that for two weeks now (meter is not part of the circuit) - it is in a continuous cycle of charging up to approx 0.655 volts, the led flashes, the voltage drops and then it does it all over again. The cycle repeats every 20 seconds (approx). Even if I take the LED out (ie the load) this cycle remains constant.

                        If I unclip the second coil the circuit goes "dead", if I clip the second coil back in it starts up again. This has to be the resonance you are talking about or as John Bedini disccusses with accessing zero point energy.

                        What do you think? I have now modified the circuit and I have diverted the output of the second coil (via a bridge rectifier) into the jt circuit. The battery voltage has stayed constant at .615 volts (actually slightly increased by 0.002 of a volt over the last 12 hours. The led has stayed lit albeit it is not very bright (but that level of brightness has stayed constant). And the circuit seems to be self running with a very small load.

                        So I do believe like you resonance is key, but also accessing the zero point energy with this circuit as John Bedini describes. I do not have a scope, so can't take measurements like you do, however I believe the proof is in the physical running of the unit - which mine is doing and I just wanted to support what you are doing.

                        I will continue to experiment - good luck

                        Thanks

                        Mark
                        Dear Mark,

                        In the case of multiple tuning forks, adding the third, forth etc. tuning forks will make the sound louder and last longer. You are encouraged to try the same with your multiple LCR circuits.

                        If you can find someone with oscilloscopes (two will be better), you can confirm overunity from examination of the waveforms. From what you described, you might have already achieved the resonance condition. Please show pictures or youtube videos so that all can learn together. Pay attention to Prof. Steven Jones work – he has access to high end oscilloscopes. So far, he is playing with resonance on a variant of the JT. He will get more spectacular results when he goes to multiple LCR circuits.

                        Keep up the good work.

                        Lawrence Tseung
                        Director
                        Help Seedlings Innovate Foundation (Hong Kong)

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                        • echo

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                          • The Tiger Mom way or the Smart Boy way?

                            Two groups both wanted to learn about FLEET and make money. Both said that they do not have any electronics background. They asked for my advice. I bought the Electronic Snap Kit for both of them as a learning tool.

                            One group did it the Tiger Mom way. Every project in the Kit was performed and analyzed. Additional reading material from stores and Internet were used to clarify and enrich the information. After one week, the group was working on project 10.

                            Another group did it the Smart Boy way. Project 1, 2 were performed. Then Project 100 was performed. The verdict was – this is easy. There is no need to labor through every project. If needed, any particular project could be done as reference later. Only 3 hours were spent on the Snap Kit.

                            I was brought up the Tiger Mom way. In my formative years, I did not have many toys. I valued the few I owned and digested every aspect of them. When I bought a book, I would read it cover to cover. If it was good, I would read it many times.

                            With the American Smart Boy way, a child can have many books on his bookshelf. Some might not even have been looked at. One comment was – 3 hours playing with a toy is long enough. If a book is not interesting in the first chapter, it is not worth continued reading. Time is precious. (Watching hours of TV or playing computer games is OK.)

                            The Tiger Mom way demands excellence at any task – one must sweat at it. The task may be mathematics, piano, tennis or snap kits. One must make time.

                            God has revealed the Divine Revelations. Humans need to study, understand and apply them. Amen.
                            Last edited by ltseung888; 07-31-2011, 09:20 AM.

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                            • tying FLEET to Powerwall

                              Originally posted by ltseung888 View Post
                              The Double Secondary FLEET

                              Is the Steven Mark TPU secret totally out?

                              The following is the edited conversation with a Hong Kong Bring-in Energy Researcher.



                              The attached picture is the double secondary FLEET I used in Hong Kong. At that time, I used it to demonstrate FLEET. Note that it had two almost identical Secondary Coils. When I used them as two separate secondary coils, both could light LEDs. After much tuning, I could take away the battery on the Joule Thief circuit. The two LEDs on the secondary circuits remained on (got dimmer and dimmer) for about 30 seconds.

                              I focused on the Seminars and Workshops at Hong Kong University and put this on the back burner. Now, after I have completed the multiple tuning fork theory and mathematical modeling, I believe I may be able to treat each of the secondary (LCR) circuit as a tuning fork. Multiple tuning forks can produce sympathetic vibrations. The resulting sound can be louder and last longer.

                              My two secondary LCR circuits may be doing something similar. It is relatively easy to add more secondary LCRs. But the trick is to get them into resonance with the basic Joule Thief Circuit first! That is not a problem for the bring-in energy researchers in Hong Kong and China. Many teams have two oscilloscopes.

                              Is this the secret of Steven Mark device? Is this what the Hong Kong Researcher implied? Will this be a good direction to take?

                              God works Miracles according to His timing. I had the standing wave and did not realize it. I had the multiple LCR circuits resonating (sympathetic vibrating) without realizing it. The Joule Ringer is a multiple LCR resonating circuit. The double secondary FLEET is also a multiple LCR resonating circuit. Amen.
                              Apache Ong learnt and improved FLEET. He now works for Tesla Motors. Tesla Motors has the Powerwall unit. Apache demonstrated a 1KW unit in 2012.
                              Attached Files

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                              • We can harness the waves in the ocean.
                                We can build a structures that moves large mass very efficiently.
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXSxnw

                                one person explains this:
                                How can resonance collapse bridges? | How It Works Magazine

                                Thousands of inventions never go forward and the businesses are left in a
                                perpetual loop. One example of success was the photo voltaic technology
                                began in 1839 Experimenting with metal electrodes and electrolyte, nineteen-year-old French physicist Alexandre Edmond Becquerel observes a physical phenomenon allowing light-electricity conversion.

                                Religions such as Bhuddism and Christianity are normally peaceful. When a person
                                reflects on how the natural world uses energy to make our bodies healthy. we can
                                benefit unlike the wind acting on the bridge certain harmonics produce a fractal field.

                                The phenomena is a time-space convergence. When you try to explain this usually
                                you will lose everyone because people prefer to attribute thisobserves a physical phenomenon
                                Stop blaming God for man's slowness explaining it away as it is not our destiny. It is your stubborness to realize that we cannot observe
                                the big picture in real time from our perspective. Simply put we can only see the bridge twist by a powerful force.

                                Do you want credit for fleet? OK no problem great job. I am tough on you because I want you to succeed but you will not explain your model based on standard physics so this means you do not have an enduring patent more importantly: God has always welcomed discovery of his creation and did not hold back knowledge. However satan told eve that she needed to eat fruit which upset DNA so that the children born were imperfect.
                                Thanks for giving credit to God but please do not attribute the slowness on imperfection on God. ( destiny no, let me try to explain from a religous frame)
                                Those having demons use misinformation like the devil. An example is Tesla was prolific inventor
                                when he was around good people off and on 1889 to 1921 over 700 patents Westinghouse era helped him. Hard times came and patent harvest time again.
                                but there were times when the flow of creativity became very slow due to demonic influence at times
                                Tesla was very reluctant to even shake hands. So why did Tesla get away from patents after 1921 ?

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                                Transition of Hong Kong to China ideological impact and on owning intellectual property
                                and the emergence of creative power as method to cope.



                                Greetings from USA and God bless all our friends in HK !
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