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  • Now. The idea is that composite luminons make up all known particles. And the model proposes that the photon is a composite requiring a quark to advance the 'stability' of the particle - else it would decay into the field.

    Then how many composites can be sustained by the field? This - again - needs a bit of visualisation. Imagine that the field is in the background and it holds the particle that has earlier been ejected from the field. The proposal is that it moves in one direction - that single justification - indicating that the 'part' of each field is 'charged'. It has a defined direction. That, single charge would then have the characteristics of a magnetic monopole.

    If two particles can sustain an orbital relationship then so can three. The one quark would be four times smaller than the zipon in the field (it's quark) the next would be the same size as the zipon in the field, and the third would be four times bigger. I'll break off here to draw this.

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    • I've added this image because I need to draw your attention to what I mean by having a single justification yet the entire field is neutral. You'll see that those dipoles would all move in the same direction. Yet if you cut the field through the middle with an imaginary line - then the directional flow of each half would oppose the other. Effectively the entire field is neutral yet each part of the field is charged having only one directional path.

      In effect there's perfect symmetry.
      Last edited by witsend; 04-21-2010, 03:35 PM.

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      • THE ELECTRON
        Hopefully that's clearer. The proposal is that a combination of 3 zipons could sustain itself outside the field on this configuration. The truant or 'visible particle' would be 4 times biggers than the central or 'zipon' particle - which, in turn would be the same size as the particle in the field. And the smallest particle, the electron's 'quark' would be 4 times smaller than the field zipon - as is the quark in the photon.

        Because the 'middle' or zipon particle is always the same size as the zipons in the field it begs the 'continual interaction with the field. Too big or too small and the field can't interact. The field has one direction, but because of the opposing charges of the truant and the quark, the electron would then move in two directions one step down and one step across. Or one step up and one step across, depending on the justification of the field. This would result in a spiral inside a magnetic field - and inside the magnetic field of a cyclotrone the electron is known to spiral. Also - because the truant and the quark 'decay' to the field zipon size at some stage during their orbit or interaction with each other, then at that moment the particle will disappear. Appear to disappear - LOL. It does. There are photographs of an electron that are first visible and then they disappear and then they're visible and so it goes. Their passage through space is 'broken' - indicating that the particle itself decays away from our dimensions during it's passage through a magnetic field.
        Last edited by witsend; 04-21-2010, 03:33 PM.

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        • In time, please also explain what is light, and what is heat according to your theory.

          And what kind of force can influence zipon aside from electricity.

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          • Hi Sucahyo, I somehow thought you'd left this thread. Nice to see you still read here. In truth I feel this is becoming a monologue so it's nice to break for the odd questions.

            According to the thesis light - or photons - are the result of two zipons that have 'broken' from the field. Breakaway zipons are broadly referred to as truants. To be stable they need to establish an orbit. And the only sustainable orbit that I can see also requires that 'quark'. The quark is outside the influence of the field AND outside our own dimensions. And the other zipon - which we can see and measure is inside the field and inside our measuring dimensions. But this zipon - truant - is the larger truant. The proposal is that the force with which they become disassociated from the field is then expressed in their frequency. Each larger truant will have a frequency that is dependent on the force with which they were first expelled. It gets bigger and slower but at a rate that depends on the force of that expulsion. The quark correspondingly get smaller and faster. Each frequency then can be anything from a 'fraction' of a zipon moment (the time it takes for one zipon to replace another zipon in the field) to thousands of zipon moments. As that zipon moment always relates to the speed of the field then the frequency relates to the time it takes for that zipon to 'grow' to it's zenith or it's largest size while the quark shrinks to it's zenith or smallest size. (the illustration refers) Then both particles reverse and they effectively decay back into the field - swap latices and repeat that same process. Because their combined charge, truant and quark, is neutral - they move into the neutral arms of the field. That always describes a straight line - as opposed to the closed circular path which is required by the zipon. The closed circular path has a single justification. The field however is neutral. Therefore the photon will eventually experience the entire field in its path through the field so it must bend with the field. So the photon is then able to express an infinite variety of frequencies - yet it will always only move at the speed of light. But this then suggests that the field must then be moving at precisely 2c. That's my constant.

            Effectively therefore the two zipons, truant and quark, make one photon and we see and measure the bigger of the two only when it is outside the field. The quark part of the photon is never seen. Just needed for those symmetries else there's no 'anchor' to keep the particle stable.

            This way the photon as two zipons conforms in all aspects to the known properties of a photon. Neutral charge. Moves in a straight line. No evident response to a magnetic field. Only theoretical potential to respond to a gravitational field. Velocity 2c. Mass - zero.

            I'll explain the 'heat' aspect later. Need to dash.
            Last edited by witsend; 04-22-2010, 07:15 AM.

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            • Hi again Sucahyo,

              I did a long post on 'heat' and LOST IT. I'll try it again.

              The proposal is that the zipon has two properties of heat and velocity - depending only on their mass. And their mass is variable. So it's complex. The extremes are this. BIG = hot/slow SMALL = cold/fast. But equally, their size or 'volume' depends on their velocity so also SLOW = big/hot and FAST = small/cold. And finally their heat depends on their volume so HOT = big/slow and COLD = small/fast. Effectively if their velocity is 2C and that is their field condition then at 2C they are also zero heat. But hot? I don't know the upper limit. Presumably it's variety can be determined by variety of heat available from the different photons at their different frequencies. Broadly, I'd say that 'flame' is a 'hot' state - but that temperature can vary depending on what's burning - so it's difficult. Field size? Perhaps that makes a difference? Way above my head. This is where you boffins need to help me with equations. But I have a very kindly gentleman this side of the equator - whose doing his bit here. Hopefully eventually - I'll be able to give better answers.

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              • Light really does intrigue me. To begin with I've proposed that the photon is moved 'through' a magnetic field. It interacts with the field at light speed and that requires that it moves outside our measurable dimensions at that moment. You remember that I drew that analogy to boundary constraints. So when it decays to the 'size-speed' of the field then it's within reach of the field - but only then.

                But it does not 'shine'. Effectively it moves through space - and since I propose that all of space comprises predominantly primary fields and less of them but also secondary fields - then every time it passes through these fields it simply has nothing to interact with. Therefore does space remain dark.

                But the proposal is that light itself can see and bounce off matter particles. It's within it's boundary range. Both are particulate. Both are within light speed. Both are evident within our measurable dimensions. Therefore, when and if a photon reaches any kind of atomic or particulate matter it is able to 'bounce' off or 'interact' with that matter thereby varying it's path and the orbital arrangement or its frequency. Momentarily it's orbital relationship with its own quark is altered and that variation does produce 'flame' or 'fire' or localised 'light'. And that is what makes matter visible and non-matter invisible. In effect it finds the electrons within the energy levels of atoms - and depending on that degree of atomic penetration it then interacts with the electron - changes its frequency - changes it's path (depending on the angle of interaction) and then it's spectrum can be determined by the colour that results from that interaction.

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                • Since all is proposed to be made of zipons, then all is effectively influenced by zipons. But the only shield against one field of zipons is another field of zipons. In effect, the only shield against a magnetic field is another magnetic field. The zipons' interaction in an electric field depends on whether it's flowing as a current - or whether it's manifest as a voltage imbalance. That means that it's field symmetries have been broken. Some part of the 'field structure' of small and fast and cold has been spoiled to become big and hot and fast. One field can split into two where the one remains big and hot and slow, the other continues to be small and cold and fast. So it is that a resistor can be both inductive and conductive. Voltages would always be a measure of a field extraneous to the structure. Amperage would alwys be a measure of a field inside a structure. And heat would be a measure of those 'fields' that have lost their orbit entirely and are unravelling in our dimensions. This results in an increase in their volume which correspondingly expands metals. And since amperage flow is always simply the redistribution of these fields in space but in a closed circuit or 'orbit' - then it returns to it's source to attempt to 'regain' or re-establish that earlier field condition with those unravelled zipons that have been imbalanced through the extrusion of parts of its fields. And all such fields are simply - `ZIPONS' But that's only according to my zipon model.

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                  • The good news is that I'm nearing the end of this very long discourse. I only need to describe the proton - elaborate on 'tertiary' fields and cover gravity - according to this 'zipon' thesis. Then I'll be happy to see this thread buried somewhere inside Energetic Forum and in the internet. Hopefully someone will have the required mathematical skills to explain this in terms that are understandable to mainstream.

                    So. To the proton. Using my symmetries or 'patterns' I could argue that two zipons would 'hold' against the impact of those all pervasive magnetic or aether fields. Three could hold but with a limited 'frequency' range as this, the electron, is caught in the grips of that central zipon (one of it's three truants) which remains the same 'size' as the field zipons. Now. Anything between 4, 5, 6, 7 and eight - ALL would simply decay back into the field. They would decouple to combinations of 2 and 3 which would result in a photon or an electron. But 9 is - effectively 3 electrons - and this could definitely resist the 'field' or aether force.

                    Here's what I see happening. Three electrons are randomly brought together through the interaction of chaotic strings in the nebula. The zipons in those strings are the same mass/velocity of the second truant that binds the electron to the field. These three second truants meet, then disassociate from their electron structure to form a second, entirely independent electron. This is expelled from the structure leaving the three remaining quarks and the three third truants, detached from one another. None of these truants can interact with the primary field as their mass/velocities are outside the zipons’ boundary constraints. However the net charges of these third truants and their quarks, align to attract. They move towards each other gaining mass and losing velocity until they attach. They retain the difference in their size ratios being four times bigger or smaller then each other, as they were when they were attached to the second truant that became the electron. In other words the third truant remains four times bigger than the second truant which second truant was formerly the quark of the electron. Then, three more truants detach from the primary field to form the new anchor or vanishing charge of the proton. This, in turn remains the size of the zipons in the field. Reconciliation of the mass/size ratio between the proton and the electron is then calculated as follows.

                    If the photon comprises two zipons then the zipon would be half the size of the photon. Velocity and mass have an inverse proportionate relationship. So, if the photon moves at the speed of light (C) then the velocity of the zipon would be 2C. Velocity and mass are inversely proportionate so, if the mass of the photon were given as 1, then the zipon would be 0.5. If the electron comprises 3 truants then its mass would be 0.5 x 3 = 1.5. And, if the proton comprises three electrons then, each electron would comprise 0.5 for the quark. 3 quarks having no volume is 0.5 x 3 = 1.5. Four times bigger for the orbital zenith of the second truant is 1.5 x 4 = 6. And four times bigger for the orbital zenith of the third truant is 6 x 4 = 24. The second and third truant only have two dimensions of volume as they manifest within a prescribed space, that merry-go-round referred to in the field description. Therefore, 3 second truants, having length and breadth is 6 x 6 x 3 = 108. 3 third truants having length and breadth is 24 x 24 x 3 = 1728. This gives a mass of 1837.5, minus 1.5 for the quarks that have neither volume or mass, giving a total of 1836. Some variation of this number is, no doubt, required to accommodate the spherical shape of the truants, but it’s complex – a 2 dimensional sphere.
                    Last edited by witsend; 04-23-2010, 08:13 AM.

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                    • In effect I've described the gluon the pion and the quark and this arrangement also requires the liberation of a single electron and the reformation of that new quark which brings with it the new established energy levels being magnetic fields that are seduced from that singularity and which make that proton formation synonymous with the creation of that first stable hydrogen atom. This is the first field that breaks away from that singularity and is entirely 'closed' or self-supporting.

                      This is an illustration of the particles and the energy levels supporting that structure of the proton. It conforms in all aspects to the known properties of the proton both in size and charge and constituent particle composites. The only thing that is omitted from the illustration is the need for a single electron to be orbiting the energy levels of the proton - also omitted from this illustration. Because symmetry is everything in this analysis the proposal is that the energy levels separating those particles from the aether fields is echoed by a secondary field of magnetic particles that orbit the structure. These fields have only dimensions of length and breadth and I'll draw it in a separate illustration.

                      Effectively the atom grows in complexity at the loss of zipons in those energy levels. Therefore - in terms of this thesis - the peiodic table is a sytematic progression of two or possibly three different primary atoms being hydrogen and deuterium - and a possible third - which would be tritium.

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                      • The Proton



                        Just note that the 'equator' or division between the charges would possibly be better described if they they met in a single line. I'll sketch this variation later in the day.

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                        • Gravity And Aether

                          I've sort of covered the strong nuclear force. That's the relationship of the proton to it's electron within the atomic structure. You can shuffle electrons around provided that they're imbalanced and that the occupy the outer energy levels. You can change molecular arrangements. But it takes a lot of energy to actually change one hydrogen atom even to a helium atom. And so on up the periodic table. It has been assessed that the only energy available to do this - is in exploding stars. My own proposal that is that those complex atoms are the result of pressure from magnetic fields and gravity. But I now need to describe what I see as the gravitational field in terms of this thesis. More visualisation required unfortunately - but again, if I can - I'll try and do some illustrations.

                          I've proposed that the primary magnetic fields are incredibly long - vast necklaces comprising perfectly aligned magnetic dipoles that join north to south - head to toe - right around the known universe. The length is huge - but could be determined by the volume of a nebula - here proposed to be a 'broken string'. Their breadth? It's precisely half that of a photon. It's miniscule. Because the symmetries of a magnetic field are best established in a toroid - then the proposal is that this field - is shaped into a toroid where countless necklaces align - shoulder to shoulder - and that lateral 'pressure' forces the field into an orbit at the velocity of twice the speed of light. That's the source of all our matter and all our energy. It's a vast sea of aether but it's particulate and it's charged. The sum of those strings are neutral. But the lateral juxtaposition of all those particles creates an unstable condition. So. Unlike previous proposals this thesis suggests that the aether fields are structured, and very fast moving.

                          Now - when zipons disassociate from the field - the proposal is that they can develop into - neutrinos - photons - electrons and protons. But that's it. All other manifest particles are only manifest for a really short duration. They are the nuances or 'virtual' particles that simply decay back into stable particles or back into those strings - that 'aether' in the background of all space.

                          Then with the development of the hydrogen atom - or that first proton - we get the development of secondary fields of magnetism or aether. Here a ratio of zipons form around the proton nucleus that precisely relates to the volume or mass of the proton itself. Theoretically therefore for the 9 particles comprising the proton - then 9 energy fields must associate with those particles - probably in a precise ratio of mass to volume - being precisely 1836 zipons or some corresponding ratio.

                          These energy levels are secondary fields. They are 'self supporting' - they are essentially closed systems. Therefore they are able to resist the influence of the greater primary magnetic or aether fields. However, the hydrogen atoms themselves are then 'pushed' by these greater fields. The strings in the primary fields simply 'wrap' around this proton atom. They cannot penetrate it. They do not 'break' up when they experience these energy levels. They simply wrap around them. Remember that each string in the primary field has only a single justification. The experienced 'charge' of the energy levels have 2 justifications because they describe an orbit. Therefore one half of the orbit will - ALWAYS - oppose the justification of the field. Therefore the strings from the primary field move the whole of the orbiting secondary fields into some angle that satisfies this experienced attraction and repulsion in those secondary fields. This, mathematically would be at 90 degrees to the greater primary aether fields. Therefore the atom would be systematically 'shuffled' towards the centre of that primary toroidal field. If you envisage the primary field as a pipe - then that atom - will be moved towards the centre of the toroid.

                          But many such hydrogen atoms will then be moving in the same direction. Each hydrogen atom effectively opposes another as they have a 'like charge'. Therefore, in order to 'share' that same space - that required but confined area - the proposal is that other disassociated atoms from that 'nebula' or that singularity - then move in. They present opposing charges in order to allow that imbalanced charge value of many hydrogen atoms accumulating in a single position in space. This separation of these new fields are the 'tertiary' magnetic fields. They have separated from the nebula in a precise 'quantity' and they now hold those hydrogen atoms together with a distribution of charge that somehow enables the hydrogen atoms to 'live' in a shared or localised area of space. In effect, they have separated from the same nebula to become the 'bonding agents' of that first hydrogen amalgam. And given enough hydrogen now bound by enough of these tertiary fields then the 'final' result is the formation of an entire star.

                          But. Symmetry is everything. Just as the first hydrogen atom also requires the creation of those energy levels, so their bound state requires the formation of new energy levels. Again, these fields are 'dragged' into the complex amalgam of a star structure to form secondary energy levels around the star structure itself. And if the 'distribution' of these secondary fields is out of kilter then the star at it's centre may shrug off some of it's mass - which then accumulates as a planet trapped within the energy levels of the star itself. Here - it is proposed - that the combined pressure exerted on these hydrogen atoms - that pressure from the different energy levels - their own loose or structured magnetic fields from the binding fields that broke off with that mass from the nucleus star structure - AND the pressure from the strings - from the aether fields themselves - are sufficient to systematically reformulate those hydrogen atoms into complex forms of atoms. That is the proposed source of the complex atoms that emanate from planetary matter. They are still bound by that same distribution of tertiary fields but the atoms thereby held bound - become evolved into the multiple forms that are evident in our periodic table.





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                          • Ok, thanks. How do you explain light speed limit?

                            I have habbit to store my post in a textfile because intermittent internet connection may cause it to lost. Also the reason why I use Opera browser, back button restore what you already write.

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                            • Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
                              Ok, thanks. How do you explain light speed limit?

                              I have habbit to store my post in a textfile because intermittent internet connection may cause it to lost. Also the reason why I use Opera browser, back button restore what you already write.
                              Hi sucahyo. Would it help if I emailed you a word file? Let me know. I've got this written on the internet. Didn't realise you had connectivity problems which explains things a bit.

                              It's a fairly big file though. PM me if this suits you better.

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                              • Originally posted by witsend View Post
                                Hi sucahyo. Would it help if I emailed you a word file? Let me know. I've got this written on the internet. Didn't realise you had connectivity problems which explains things a bit.

                                It's a fairly big file though. PM me if this suits you better.
                                My email acount is limited in size. I think it is better if you host it on 4shared or filefactory.

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