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    I've been asked by people who have only met me in the last year or so, if I've ever been fed up and lost faith. I've decided to share the posts below with you (which I posted on a forum in 2006) because sometimes it makes a big difference to hear someone else's story, who has been rock bottom, and then come out the other end (so to speak lol). I must point out that this was in the middle of all my efforts at Self Development, including The Secret, Visualisations, Powerful Intentions, EFT, Holosync, .... and a lot of other stuff.

    If I can get from there to where I am now, so can you.
    Sorry about the length of the post, but I hope it helps.
    (I've just discovered it's too long for one post, so I'll put it into four...)

    Love and Light and Magic xxx

    PS: The only things I've edited are the names of the other people who responded - I've changed their names to their initials for their own privacy. Otherwise, this is exactly what was posted.
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    Illusions

    can't anymore

    I was going to post this in answer to a thread on The Secret forum, but then felt it might not be such a good idea, and I thought you guys would understand more.

    Please understand, I hope I'm wrong about this, but I have yet to see any actual clear, obvious indication otherwise.

    What if some of us decided (or rather the expanded self decided) that in this particular incarnation/ hologram experience, we would experience financial hardship - regardless. What if let's say my expanded self decided to play the game of red herrings and false hope (presumably very entertaining for my expanded self, but pretty sh***y for me - the conciousness I currently am - the character in this virtual reality game) What if, no matter what this character does, it'll never have what it wants because that's the game. That's what all evidence currently points to.

    For example: people say don't give up. When a child learns to walk, when he falls down, he doesn't give up and just not learn to walk. He keeps trying until he walks. Here's the difference: we teach our children to walk by helping them and showing them exactly how. We don't give them obscure clues and false information and expect them to figure it out. We don't suggest they stand on their hands, or heads. We don't hold up cards with "fish" or "bread" or "twirl" written on them. And we don't hold our a hand, and then snatch it away. We don't push them over so they fall when they do manage to stand up.

    There are many people who have managed to improve their finances - through a wide variety of methods. Just in these forums alone there is LOA, EFT, and of course BLFTMG, amongst so many others - and these methods have worked for many different people. But for many of us, none of these "work". We can have the same "blocks", the same "issues", the same "history", and trying just as hard, doing just as much as others, and we don't get the result.

    I am tired of peddling now. I'm tired of being offered "life rafts" that sink. Tired of being pointed in a direction, following and trusting, only to find it's another dead end. I'm tired of believing and trusting "inspired thought", following it with inspired action, to find it's another red herring, only leading to another dead end, presumably purely for the entertainment of a game I have no concious memeory of agreeing to play.

    Like in a computer game, where the person playing sends the character in the game into battles and on quests, for entertainment, and the character perhaps simply wants a nice quiet life at home with family, plenty of food and security, and keeps wanting that, and hoping and trusting that maybe if they try it this way, or win this battle, they'll get what they want. Because they've been led to believe that if they keep trying, they'll get what they want - and that they wouldn't have been given that desire unless they could achieve it. But what they don't know is that the constant battle and gettingupfallingdowngettingupfallingdowngettingupf allingdown is all part of the entertainment for the player. The character doesn't know that no matter how many times they get up they'll always fall down because that's part of the game.

    I keeeeep picking myself up, trying everything I feel inspired to try, trustingtrustingtrusting, busting eggs, EFT, meditation, gratitude ..... you name it, and I have yet to see ANY indication of ANY financial result. Oh, sure there are the crumbs. I managed to get my rent by the skin of my teeth at the last minute last month, and I was so grateful. But see, I am sO grateful for the crumbs, I really am, but I would really really really like a crust - maybe even a slice some time. And I'm led to believe that not only is it possible for me to have a slice some time, but that I deserve it. But I've seen no evidence of that. Not a scrap.

    I mean every - that's EVERY - hope that appears is false. And I know that some may think I must have beliefs that I will fail or beliefs that I will be given false clues and false hope - and that that creates the situations, but (well, I suppose without actually knowing me, it's difficult to understand) I really really really - I swear - believe and trust each and every time - I believe and trust "this is it, I've got it." I believe and trust I deserve it. I believe and trust if I have the desire, I must be able to do it. It's only after slapintheface after slapintheface after slapintheface that the evidence is overwhelming.

    It's like Oliver, going up and asking for more - and really believing he can get it. Having been told "if you just ask and hold out your bowl, you'll get it" so he does that, and he gets sent away with an empty bowl. Then someone else suggests "but you need to you really believe you can have it, and try using this bowl." So he believes and trusts that. So up he goes again. Same result. Then someone else says "You have to visualise it, and feel good about it - try meditating on it" and so he does - with the same enthusiasm and belief and trust (perhaps even more - because this is something he hadn't tried before. It makes sense. It's bound to work) Again - same result - empty bowl. But because he really wants it, and he really believes and trusts, he keeps going over and over with the same enthusiasm, commitment, belief and trust. But unfortunately, the story is that he doesn't get more. So he can keep doing it until he grows old and dies. He'll never get it. Because that's not the story that was written for the entertainment of the reader.

    After just too many of these - and absolutely no sign of a result, I am afraid I'm now just too broken. I have decided to stop. I'm sorry to spoil the entertainment for the player, but I just don't want to play anymore. I am now officially giving up. I don't know what I will do, but I will not keep rising to the bait. I am giving up my hopes of financial ..... well anything. I am giving up my hopes of a career in what I love and live for. I have no choice but to simply wait out the game. Well, let me re-phrase that - I do have a choice, but the choice is to continue in the same way - gettingupfallingdowngettingupfallingdown - with no real hope of breaking the pattern. Or at least saving myself the constant falls. If I stay down, I won't have so far to fall.

    As I said before, I am so very grateful for the crumbs. But I guess I was led to believe I could have a bit more than that. At least if I resign myself to just scraping by on crumbs, it's better than false hope.

    Posted by Illusions ; )
    12/05/06 07:20 PM


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    CB

    aaahhhh sweetie. What happened? What happened honeypie?? sending you big love and big hugs and big positive energy right now.

    your friend

    C

    Posted by CB
    12/05/06 09:26 PM


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    PA

    Idon'tknowIdon'tknowIdon'tknowIIdon'tknowIdon'tkno wIdon'tknowIdon'tknowdon'tknowIdon'tknowIdon'tknow Idon'tknowIdon'tknow

    I'msorryhoneyI'msorryhoneyI'msorryhoneyI'msorryhon eyI'msorryhoneyI'msorryhoneyI'msorryhoneyI'msorryh oneyI'msorryhoneyI'msorryhoney

    And I'm holding you and I'm rocking and I'm patting your back.

    I just posted on the secret forum about how people keep saying that if folks aren't getting their money they must have some vibration to clean up, some resistance. But that's just not true for 2 reasons.

    1.) Everyone gets their 1st deliberate creations manifesting with resistance, without fully believing. And the showing up of the manifestations is what makes them really believe. So how can money not show up just because of some deep dark resistance? Why should it be harder? It shouldn't.

    Second, and I'm not saying this to make you feel bad, just to show how it can come. I've intended more money and then when it showed up I was all about saying, hmmm, I don't deserve this, I should give some back, I must be ripping them off. So you don't have to be so vibrationally clean for money, just like you don't for all of the other stuff to show up.

    So that's why the idon'tknow about your money.

    What I do know is that your soul is not toying with you. Your soul is not having a party while you struggle. It's not some masochistic game with yourself.

    And this is just where you were a few months back when this forum began.
    So . . . so what? I just don't know why it is so hard for you. Can I call you? I think that perhaps there are more ways of figuring this out with real time and voices. I must have something figured out that I can't pull out here because my life was **** for a while there and with LoA it was just a consistently smoother ride up the mountain. No big blow-up like I keep reading others have. (except my BL moment! :-P ) Just steady improvement. Well, and some quantum leap ones. But all going up.

    I do have a very finely tuned radar for out of alignment moments, words. I can detect the slightest 'headed in the wrong direction' word.

    So, that's all I got baby. Can I help?

    Love,

    P

    Posted by PA
    12/06/06 01:47 AM


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    PA

    And I hold you in my heart in peace and in love and in knowing that all is well with you. My soul surrounds you with well being and with light. I believe in your power. I believe in your knowing.

    P

    Posted by PA
    12/06/06 02:14 AM


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        Continued from above.....
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        • #5
          What is the rest of the story???

          I read everything you posted from 2006 but what is the rest of the story....the successes you may have had since being on Paths or any other change in your life for the better? I've read many of your replies before and you seem to be very knowledgable about many things. That wisdom and knowledge should have led you to successes in your life. Being on Paths has made my life a lot better (even though some people believe Paths uses the placebo effect). Placebo or not, it is still working. I thought as I was reading about your past challenges that there would be an update of a breakthough. I have felt the bewilderment of going down paths that seemed to work for others but left my life as it was (financially, not in a good place). But, through all the discourging false information I've believed, I'm still left with my basic faith in my God, who has always been truthful to me and ever so gentle. ( I haven't been able to accept that I'm God as some people say is suppose to be true......I'm a part of God because I was created but there is One who is greater than this spirit in this body). Anyway, I do hope your life has changed for the better and your dreams are coming true.

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          • #6
            Dear Illusions

            I am so touched by your words .. and can't wait to read the rest of the story

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            • #7
              you're not alone! And do post for help if you can - the support you get will make all the difference.

              Love and Light and Magic xxx
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              • #8
                Thanks so much for posting your very personal story Odille I am sure you have helped more people than you can possibly know
                Namaste,
                Pamela
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                • #9
                  Beautiful Illusions!

                  How Magnificent you are!! You ARE and always have been from the moment I read your first post many months ago a True Inspiration!! What directly affects my heart in your posts is the Love you feel for life, even though your life has not fit "the Picture" as of yet, (OR HAS IT?)!!

                  What I see, and read in you and your posts, is experience, wisdom, willingness, courage (immense courage), understanding, compassion, forgiveness, intelligence, passion, and the pure essence of Love. Not just love for yourself, but for others and life!

                  Illusions! What a perfect name for what you are so eloquently, beautifully, explaining to all of us in your posts. Life is an illusion. There is nothing at all you need to "DO" anymore! You have played the "game" and played it proficiently I may add!!

                  The Game we are all playing is called the game of "a straight line------------------------". If "i" go from here to there, then I will get the "carrot at the end of the stick" (Also known as Dualism). Now our perception is important here, because the game is always fun, unless it's not. It depends on how we see things.

                  When I read your posts, Illusions, I also see that you KNOW! You know that it is a game and that there is more here than meets the eye (GOD). With your fabulous wisdom, I see that you are assisting more people here than also meets the eye!! You are gifted at giving, and I see what you are "BEING"!

                  So this is not advice to you, Illusions, because I recognize all to well how magnificent you are and what you are being for others!

                  What I am saying is that there is now (because of your posts) a greater understanding of the fact that there is no need to continue playing the game!

                  If you take the "straight line game" and put the two end points together, YOU NOW have a Perfectly whole and complete Circle!!! The absolute truth is, IS THAT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PERFECT, WHOLE AND COMPLETE CIRCLE all along!!

                  There is no longer any need for wanting, desiring, gaining, getting, doing! There is only the knowing that it is what it is, whole perfect and complete. The essence of who we are is COMPLETE. With the understanding of Completeness, there is no need. All is within. All has already been given. All is fulfilled.

                  So the question is, Why do we have this perfect physical body, if there is nothing to "do" with it only to "BE" with it? The Answer is in the game! It was never about winning, it was always about having fun (perception/awareness)!

                  This ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS world of ours, is the biggest playground we have, and we have an infinite number of times we can play the game or not. It has been and always will be our choice. Free will, is Freedom and the greatest gift of all in this world of Dualism.

                  Spending time with you and the others in Vegas was so amazing for me, knowing you is beautiful, and I have Paths to thank for all of it!!!!! I am having so much fun that all I can say again and again is LIFE IS ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS!!

                  I LOVE YOU FABULOUS ILLUSIONS!!
                  IMMENSE LOVE AND GRATITUDE ~ GRACE

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                  • #10
                    Sweet Pamela, thank you So much for being in my life! I feel constantly conected to you, and that is such a gift to me! xxxxx
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                    • #11
                      Grace, I can't thank you enough! Your post has filled me with so much "warm fuzzy" I'm floating four inches above the floor!

                      How spot-on you are with what you've said here (and what you always say).

                      "...because the game is always fun, unless it's not." heh heh I love this - and of course, it's absolutely true!

                      Thank you so much for adding your wisdom to this - I know that my posts will give comfort to those who are going through similar feelings, but yours give the supportive solutions and a new way of looking at life.

                      I love you more than you'll ever know Grace.
                      Thank you for You. xxxxxxxx
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Grace View Post


                        Illusions! What a perfect name for what you are so eloquently, beautifully, explaining to all of us in your posts. Life is an illusion. There is nothing at all you need to "DO" anymore! You have played the "game" and played it proficiently I may add!!

                        Gracie you've explained the name thing quite well for me. I remember when we first knew Odille (Illusions) through the powerful intentions forum (before this one existed). She had two parts to her user name, I think it was "Grand Illusions" or something like that. After we started PATHS and she started the PATHS section within powerful intentions and so much good started happening, we were all like "Odille you need to change that user name - there are no illusions about how well things are going for you!"

                        I wanted her to pick "Reality is and Illusion" or something like that for her new name but she felt perfect about just dropping the "Grand" part.

                        I finally get it

                        XO Jessica
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                        • #13
                          Appreciation....

                          Thank you Illusion for the rest of the story. When I read your down and out version, I allowed myself to be depressed yesterday (not consciously). I guess I figured that if someone as talented and wise as you still didn't get to have her dreams come true no matter what she did, then, what about the rest of us dreamers. I did manage to work through most of the depression yesterday but kept looking for the rest of your story to know that Paths and some of the other things we do does make a difference. Whew! Thank you.
                          And Grace...thank you for your private emails. You are such a sweetheart. I don't know what it means when someone asks to join my network. I didn't know I had one. Alvina

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                          • #14
                            Braveheart!

                            Illusions, Thanks for sharing your story and I agree with you that there are many who do not post but are listening. You are a true inspiration
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                            • #15
                              Thanks for this thread!

                              Thank you, Illusions, for posting this thread. I have hit rock bottom, which is why I am here. PATHS and Matrix Energetics are my last hope. Having said that, I am not convinced they will work for me, but I am hopeful.

                              I've been on a spiritual path for about 2 years now, and I know that I am the co-creator of my world... I know that thoughts create things... but I just don't seem to be able to release the negative and focus on the positive. I've tried EFT and The Sedona Method, affirmations, gratitude, journaling, forgiveness, etc., nothing worked... and sometimes I felt worse! Why do these methods work for other people and not me? WHY?

                              I've watched The Secret, and What the Bleep?, read too many books including Abraham-Hicks, The Power of Now, The Invisible Path to Success, Busting Loose From The Money Game, and most recently Matrix Energetics. I know transformation is possible... but that has not been my experience.

                              I desperately want to go to the Matrix Energetics Seminar this Friday - Monday in Miami (I live in Tampa). My hope is that if I attend I will experience the shift I have been seeking for so long. Money is the issue. I have about $500 to my name, which would pay for the seminar, but not the transportation, acomodations or food... and would leave me dead broke. A friend owes me $2000 and I figure if the money comes in, from any source before Friday, then I'm meant to go. I've decided to let go of the attachment to going and I've put the request in my God Box.

                              This plays with my head, because I believe I can manifest the money. I've done it before! But I also have this nagging doubt that M.E. will work for me... but my gut is telling me I need to be there! That this will work! But I've had that feeling about EFT, Sedona, etc. Grrrrr! I am so frustrated and confused. How do I release the doubts, when every releasing method I've tried doesn't work for me?

                              I've written to Grace for corrections, and she graciously (excuse the pun) agreed to help me. (Thank you! Thank you! Thank you Grace!) She also suggested I post. I've been a lurker. I didn't want to post a bunch of negativity, but after reading your story, Illusions, and identifying with a lot of it, I decided to share some of what is going on in my life.

                              I've been on Disability for 20 years and I can't live in my car for $575/month. Narcolepsy, insomnia, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, IBS, back problems, depression and anxiety are the main complaints. The physical pain is gone now (thank you!) but I've been unhappy for most of my life. My mother actually told me I was incapable of being happy! Thanks for the hologram, Mom. but I've always had someone to take care of me financially.

                              That ended last year when my fiance and I broke up. He gave me a nice cash settlement, and I thought I was set for life. I had just watched The Secret, and I thought everything was going to be great. I could see money falling from the sky... the right circumstances and people were falling into place. Or so I thought.

                              Long story short, I spent the money, convinced the Universe would supply more. I Tithed, gave some money to my son and paid for some medical and dental work for my neice. I invested heavily in a home business with a product I used and believed in. (I went from 15 medications to 2 within 4 months on this product... 4-8 Vicaden/day down to 0 in 2 months!) A family in my direct upline earned $10,000, $100,000 and $300,000 per MONTH... Yes, Daddy helped the kids, but he said if they could do it, so could I. I would just do what they did. I had God on my side... heheh, I am God! Right? I've got all the right connections! http://www.energeticforum.com/images...s/thumbsup.gif
                              Or so I thought.

                              Evidently, I have some poverty issues and some deserving issues to work out. I kept the faith, even though my experience gave me evidence to the contrary. 8 months later, I got out of the business with only $10,000 left and no other source of income.

                              I am temporarily back living with my Ex, who says I've got to get a job and find another place to live. I haven't worked in 23 years. I don't want to work a traditional job. I would like to do some sort of energy work... which is ironic, since none of the methods I have tried have worked for me. But I do believe they work, and I have a strong desire to help other people. I figure something has to work eventually... or maybe not.

                              As I said, I've hit rock bottom. Unlike Illusions, I do not want to ride it out. I have no plans to kill myself, but there are times I wish I were dead and I have had thoughts of suicide. I created a very good illusion and it can be quite convincing at times. I don't know what to believe anymore and I am so tired of living with anxiety and depression, emotionally, mentally and spiritually hurting. If this is the life I've chosen and I can't change it, then lets end this game right now and start a new one. But my son would be devastated and I can't do that to him. So I keep searching for some new hope. Maybe Hope should be my screen name. lol

                              For those of you who have read this exceedingly long post, I thank you for "listening" to my rant.

                              Again, I thank Illusions for posting this thread... since you've been there, done that, and your life is better, my hope increases.

                              I'd also like to thank SallyJane. My greatest fear is being homeless. I've read your story and your transformation has been nothing short of inspiring.

                              Love and Light,

                              Pam

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