Wardenclyffe - Tesla's true intention

[Hobby Eon]

With your best abbilities.

Can you with your best abbilities, discribe this running device built in plexiglass ?

One of the finest video's:

Free energy 2012 Kapanadze Aquarium free energy device running 2KW heater load - YouTube

Thanks to this man circuits popped up with two grounds. Like i said earlier they don't need to be real grounds ?

[Tenaus]

Concerning the inner structure of the Earth, I would like to ask you to do some research on what supporting evidence geologists have. I have done so in the past and I am sure you will be surprised with what you will find. I will give you one example:
We "know" the inner core consists mainly of iron and nickel because:
- we find these elements in abundance in meteorites (that is correct, you have read it right).
- it may help in explaining Earth magnetism if we vote for metals that can be magnetised.
The first reason is downright ridiculous because it has nothing to do with the Earth, the second reason would explain the absence of magnetism on the Sun
As crazy as it may sound, these are the real reasons.

As far as proof for the magnetic center of the Earth, we have almost none. I actually wrote a short paper on this in Highschool. I suppose I will share it here. It also explains the methodology that I used to come up with the idea for the paper. It contains no proof for the lack of a iron core.

Additionally, the increase of heat towards the center of the earth can be explained by the fact that electric currents cause heat, and there could be a very high magnetic flux, and therefore, electric current, closer to the center of the Earth.

The Exploration of the Earth's Magnetosphere"
2. Magnetosphere of Jupiter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
3. Saturn: Magnetic Field and Magnetosphere
4. Uranus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
5. Uranus: Magnetic Field and Magnetosphere
6. Neptune: Magnetic Field and Magnetosphere
7. WHY THREE PRONGS? Electrical ground, stray voltage
8. Solar Cycle Update: Twin Peaks? - NASA Science
9. Earth–ionosphere waveguide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Farmhand]

Can you with your best abbilities, discribe this running device built in plexiglass ?

One of the finest video's:

Free energy 2012 Kapanadze Aquarium free energy device running 2KW heater load - YouTube

Thanks to this man circuits popped up with two grounds. Like i said earlier they don't need to be real grounds ?

Circuits with two grounds were around long before this man Tariel was born.

Cheers

P.S. the device in question takes in energy through the fake ground wire in my opinion and trick bolt he uses to attach the fake "Earth" wire or ground to a "concrete" block .
I think he uses that mechanism to provide grid power to the device.

A proper analysis could never be done without access to the device and being allowed to deconstruct it.

I would like to have seen them remove the "Earth" bolt from the concrete block and attach it to a free standing Earth stake in the open ground.
Almost all his demos can be explained as deceptions. He destroys his devices after demos for a very good reason, so no one gets a hold of one and reveals it as fake, in my opinion.

I drew a diagram of the trick bolt and posted it at OU.com, the idea is very simple and pretty much foolproof unless the bolt is removed and inspected.


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[boguslaw]

Bravo ! At least the correct theory ! How can Earth has iron core if iron become non-magnetic in high temperature ? That's how theory of magnetic iron core is weak and also because the rotation of Earth should be stopped if the magnetic field opposing strong solar and cosmic winds would be produced by magnetized iron core only.

[RAMSET]

Thx to Wesley for this Tesla device translation

Akula expaining his device translation by Wesley - YouTube

Here is another Wesley translation of an Akula vid [Akula #3]

Free energy Akula video #3 translated by Wesley - YouTube

Thx
Chet

[Tenaus]

Bravo ! At least the correct theory ! How can Earth has iron core if iron become non-magnetic in high temperature ? That's how theory of magnetic iron core is weak and also because the rotation of Earth should be stopped if the magnetic field opposing strong solar and cosmic winds would be produced by magnetized iron core only.

Scientists still do, however, have a reasonable method of deriving that the Earth is made of an iron core towards the center. They use the sound waves of earthquakes, and measure the average speed through different parts of the Earth. They then use the speed of the waves to determine the density of the material, and deduce the material based on predictions of pressure and heat at that level of the Earth. It is a very complex process, but it is sensible in its method. My only question is how rigorous they are being in this type of verification... I'll also remind you that Tesla did work in this area, but rather than earthquakes, he claimed to use his mechanical oscillator to send vibrations in the ground, and then deduce what was where, and the type of substance it was.

@Ernst

You may be interested in looking at a few articles by Bill Beaty about the TMT. Although he seems to have some small errors in his view of Tesla's work, but otherwise it seems he independently came to the same conclusion you have, albeit he uses a lot of classical electromagnetism to explain the system, and forgoes anything about the ether.

Speculations on Tesla's Power Transmission "World System" Wardenclyffe.
Nikola Tesla Page, Tesla's power receiver

There are a few more interesting articles there that I recommend you read.

[Ernst]

@Tenaus,

Thanks for your links, but I had already seen his work and had a very short email exchange with him on the subject. His ideas certainly make sense, and I have given it serious thought. But I could not fully agree with him, and to cut a long story short, neither could he with me.

So... we left in peace and respect (from my part at least).
What I liked about him is that he reads and re-reads Tesla and really tries to understand him. That part we have in common, together with being stubborn

Ernst.

[thx1138]

Structure of the earth

Thanx thx1138 for your artwork!
There are many things that we can never be certain of and only a few that we can.

That is certainly true of the structure of the earth since the heat and pressures grow to extremes the deeper we go. So we will not likely penetrate physically any time soon.

I have done quite a bit of research on the structure of the earth but it is all theory although there are people still working on it.

The theory of a solid core wasn't proposed until the 1930's and the theory of a liquid metal core surrounding that solid metal core was even more recent. But the current theory is that the liquid metal outer core, being trapped between the mantle and the solid inner core, both of which rotate, creates eddies or vortices via the Coriolis effect in the liquid metal outer core and it is those eddies that generate the magnet field of the earth.

The main problem I have with conduction through the crust is how do you explain the different velocities of propagation?

What "different velocities of propagation" are you speaking of? In my mind the propagation via conduction through the crust would be much more likely than staright through the planet because of the differences in the crust, mantle, outer core, and inner core.

I take it as conduction because I saw articles where Tesla clearly stated that his method used true conduction. It was Tesla making the statement and not the person writing the article interpreting his words. The reason I think it is through the crust is that both pressure and heat are detrimental to conduction and both increase as one nears the center of the planet. So electricity, taking the path of least resistance, would conduct through the crust.

I believe that his original plan to transmit through the atmosphere sounded good because at the 30,000 feet that was stated in the patent, the atmosphere is lower pressure and the temperature is in the neighborhood of 40 below zero which are both conducive to conduction. But as far as I know he never attempted the transmission between balloons. It would have been a major endeavor and I've never seen any articles about it.

Many people think he was talking about an "ionized channel" to the atmosphere but if you thing about that, it is not doable either simply because of the jet stream winds at 250+ MPH which, BTW, would have doomed the balloon transmission also. He may have considered it but probably would have failed because the jet stream was unknown at the time.

If you read his July 4, 1899 Colorado Springs notes you'll see why. I think that is when he realised that he could accomplish the same thing as lightning striking the earth. It's my opinion that the Wardenclyffe cupola was just a huge capacitor to accumulate a huge charge at millions of volts created by the magnifier part of the magnifying transmitter and injected into the crust via the extensive underground piping shown in the Andersen drawings.

So what he was doing at Wardenclyffe was generating lightning that he could make strike the ground with controllable timing and intensity.

The problem I have with the surface wave theory is that there were extensive steel and/or iron rail lines all over the world by then and they surely would have created problems.

[Ernst]

What "different velocities of propagation" are you speaking of? In my mind the propagation via conduction through the crust would be much more likely than straight through the planet because of the differences in the crust, mantle, outer core, and inner core.

The difference Tesla explains in the pre-hearing interview 1916. see fig. 81 and 82. It is also in another article, if I remember correctly.
This is a very important issue.

When the earth is struck mechanically, as is the case in some powerful terrestrial upheaval, it vibrates like a bell, its period being measured in hours. When it is struck electrically, the charge oscillates, approximately, twelve times a second. By impressing upon it current waves of certain lengths, definitely related to its diameter, the globe is thrown into resonant vibration like a wire, stationary waves forming, the nodal and ventral regions of which can be located with mathematical precision.

The "true electricity" goes through the centre of the Earth, to the other side and back (25,465 Km). But electrical effects are created on the Earth surface (40,000 Km).
So while the "true electricity" travels at light speed, the electrical effects appear to travel at a higher velocity on the surface. The highest velocity near to the source (and the opposite side), the lowest velocity half-way between.

Tesla relates this to, or calls this, one of natures greatest secrets. We have to re-think conduction and things like the skin-effect. I can not find the exact Tesla-quote...

Ernst.

[thx1138]

Apples and oranges

Although the numbers in your post seem to fit together nicely, that doesn't mean that those numbers represent the truth of what is occuring.

Tesla himself made some mistakes. For example, his idea of transmitting between balloons maintained at 30,000 feet was not practicable because of the 250+ MPH jet stream winds that were unknown at the time. Yet he considered 30,000 feet "easily accessible" as stated in US Patent 645,576 with the application date of 09/02/1897. The point of this is that Tesla is not infallible.

The structure of the earth's layers was largely unknown in his day. In 1896 Emil Wiechert published the first verifiable model of the earth's layers but it wasn't until 1914 that one of his students, Beno Gutenberg, used his methods to confirm a three layered structure of the planet and it wasn't until 1936 that Inge Lehmann argued that there was a liquid outer core around the solid inner core and, thus, four layers.

I believe that Tesla would have modified his theories had this information been available to him.

Getting back to your numbers, you propose that the "true electricity" travels straight through these layers at a constant "speed of light in a vacuum" to the diametrically opposite pole of the earth and is reflected back to the source. One of the things that most people drop when speaking of "the speed of light" is the "in a vacuum" part. Yet you are saying that "true electricity" travels straight through various density mediums with high pressures, high temperatures and differing conductivities at this same "speed of light in a vacuum" and disregard that light is EM radiation and Tesla's pre-hearing interview repeatedly states that his system does not use EM radiation but conduction of currents.

If the "true electricity" can travel through all of that matter of different properties at a constant speed, why would it be reflected at all? Today neutrinos are supposed to travel through the earth as you envision but they are not reflected, they just keep going.

[MonsieurM]

Bravo ! At least the correct theory ! How can Earth has iron core if iron become non-magnetic in high temperature ? That's how theory of magnetic iron core is weak and also because the rotation of Earth should be stopped if the magnetic field opposing strong solar and cosmic winds would be produced by magnetized iron core only.

the following may give you a clue : Using heat to make magnets

[a.king21]

Tesla self induction

Reading Tesla's patents, he often talks about the self induction of a coil.
Does anyone know exactly what this means in today's terminology?

[shylo]

migration

Hi aKing, Sorry I haven't had time to follow this thread.
But wouldn't self induction be , the opposite effect that's created by inducing the intial field.
When you create a field in a coil ,an opposite field propagates as a result of the original. But if you interrupt the original ,and reverse it , should it not add to the initial.?
Btw Thanks for that link on the 3BGS thread.
artv

[Ernst]

Although the numbers in your post seem to fit together nicely, that doesn't mean that those numbers represent the truth of what is occuring.

Tesla himself made some mistakes. For example, his idea of transmitting between balloons maintained at 30,000 feet was not practicable because of the 250+ MPH jet stream winds that were unknown at the time. Yet he considered 30,000 feet "easily accessible" as stated in US Patent 645,576 with the application date of 09/02/1897. The point of this is that Tesla is not infallible.

The structure of the earth's layers was largely unknown in his day. In 1896 Emil Wiechert published the first verifiable model of the earth's layers but it wasn't until 1914 that one of his students, Beno Gutenberg, used his methods to confirm a three layered structure of the planet and it wasn't until 1936 that Inge Lehmann argued that there was a liquid outer core around the solid inner core and, thus, four layers.

I believe that Tesla would have modified his theories had this information been available to him.

You make it sound as if this is my theory. But this is what I read from Tesla's work, I believe this is his theory. What I called "true electricity", Tesla calls "ether stress". This can be either a longitudinal wave, such as created by Ruhmkorff coils (or inside a conductor), or rotational stress, such as in charges. (read all about it in Tesla's lecture of 1891-05-20)
Tesla explains in several other articles why the Earth is an ideal conductor. In one he says that resistance gets larger with the length but smaller with the area of conduction, so although the Earth may be seen as a 12,737 Km long wire, the area of conduction is very large, especially in the middle. For this reason its resistance is exceedingly small.
Combined with the "shadow of the moon" story quoted above, this makes it very clear how Tesla sees the conduction through the Earth.
I am not saying that this is the truth of what is happening, because I do not have sufficient experimental proof. But I firmly believe that this is how Tesla sees it and he may have had quite some experimental proof.

I think we already did establish that although there are many theories about the Earth inner structure, none of these are proven and the evidence is flimsy to say the least.

I believe Tesla would not change his published views or theories, he never did. He did not speak up until he felt absolutely certain about it.

Getting back to your numbers, you propose that the "true electricity" travels straight through these layers at a constant "speed of light in a vacuum" to the diametrically opposite pole of the earth and is reflected back to the source. One of the things that most people drop when speaking of "the speed of light" is the "in a vacuum" part. Yet you are saying that "true electricity" travels straight through various density mediums with high pressures, high temperatures and differing conductivities at this same "speed of light in a vacuum" and disregard that light is EM radiation and Tesla's pre-hearing interview repeatedly states that his system does not use EM radiation but conduction of currents.

If the "true electricity" can travel through all of that matter of different properties at a constant speed, why would it be reflected at all? Today neutrinos are supposed to travel through the earth as you envision but they are not reflected, they just keep going.

Ether runs through all media, however dense. Ether stresses can there for also run through all media irrespective of their density. What does make a difference is electrical conductance, or the apparent move of charge. I say "apparent" because the electrons that enter on one end of a conductor are not the ones that exit on the other end. The same must be true for conductance through the Earth crust; we see an electrical effect much like in iron filings when a magnet passes underneath (at some distance, so they are not dragged along). These charges are moved by the ether (stress), so the ether exerts a force on it. Then the opposite must also be true; moving charges exert a force on the ether. On the opposite site of the Earth the charges come together in exactly the same way as in the source, so there is no difference between the actual source and the opposite site. So the opposite site must create the same effects and effectively reflect the electrical signal back to the source.

You link EM radiation to what I called "true electricity", I think that is not 100% correct. There are similarities between the two, but they are not the same thing. You can read in many instances that Tesla calculates with the speed of light for the speed of electric conduction.


@ a.king21,

I think that would be the induction difference between a coil and the same conductor laid out in a straight line. But for most practical purposes it equals the induction of a coil.

Ernst.

[Vinyasi]

What hath Mankind wrought?

I would have to say that we don't entirely give full credit where credit is due...

Tesla was more than a towering genius in his field. He had a heart of gold filled with unselfish virtue.

Yeah, Tesla did mismanage the money given him by JP Morgan by not delivering Wardenclyffe to JP Morgan as Tesla had promised -- but for good reason beyond JP Morgan's capacity to envision: the ability of anyone to walk away from a costly project even if the recognition of its inherent danger is realized only after much of this expensive funding has already been spent!

If we claim that Tesla's System of Wireless Power was destroyed by JP Morgan pulling Tesla's funds out from under Tesla, and that RCA reinvented a new policy of what type of radio transmission was to be permitted post 1920, then maybe we have overlooked another factor which precedes these two, namely...

A vacuum of skillfulness was created by Tesla himself when *he* removed himself -- voluntarily and without anyone else's brute force submission -- from the business of transmission of wireless power and wireless communications when he realized that the system he envisioned -- when finally put into place -- would leave a legacy of future generations to inherit which would put the Earth -- as an entire planet -- in jeopardy of destruction. To wit...

A TV program which aired in the year 2000 on PBS, called: "Tesla - Master of Lightening", made light of a quote attributed to Tesla in which he jokingly admitted (with a certain sense of wanton and cavalier abandonment) to his ability of wireless transmission of power being capable of splitting the Earth. The TV program immediately glossed over this admission to focus instead on JP Morgan's influence in pulling the financial plug out of Tesla's undertaking making Tesla *allegedly* an unhappy man gradually degrading (over the subsequent years) into delusional phobias and daffy thinking for an old croner turning into a tomato in his old age. I hold, that, this is far from true.

Tesla realized the potential for harm that his program for wireless transmission of power had on the Earth once Tesla's oversight was terminated by his own death. He couldn't insure that the system -- as flawless as it was in its inherent design -- was nonetheless flawed in its execution without any fail-safe designs built-in to prevent mismanagement by anyone ignorant of the consequences, namely: planetary destruction. Considering the inherent nature of pumping energy into the Earth at the Earth's specific frequency of resonance, and doing so in a way convergent with an increase of power gained with each pulsation, contrary methods could also be devised to do the opposite: instead of taking advantage of consonance, dissonance could be the theme leading to the fracturing of the planet. This fragmentation is all too relevant considering the hollowness of the Earth similar to the dimensional proportion of an analogous egg shell. If the wavelength of the wireless impulses fail to match the dimension of the Earth, or if they do match but are pulsed in a dissonant fashion out of phase with each other (for example, the "devil's tone" or "tritone" of the square root of two -- in music theory), then fragmenting the planet into another asteroid belt (this time much closer to the Sun then the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter) is very real and a grave risk to undertake without considerable pause to reflect on these risky consequences. For all we know, the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter may be a prime example of an already failed attempt at implementing this technology without considerable thought given to its relevant consequences.

I think Tesla did not die destitute against market forces victorious over his ruin. I think his virtue of putting us in the dark by dismantling Wardenclyffe -- voluntarily of his own accord -- made all the other historical footnotes (which came after him) minor and trivial by comparison (such as: JP Morgan and RCA).

We have been in darkness over this wireless transmission of power, because Tesla had the light and snuffed it out himself.

We should be thankful that he had the courage to recognize that we are not yet ready for unifying the planet under a banner of technological convenience requiring "safety first" as its initial premise, for we have yet to answer the question which we so ardently refuse to ask: "How would we -- in this present age -- insure that our revival of Tesla's wireless system would be used only for the good of everyone, and never become mismanaged resulting in planetary suicide?"

No one knows the answer to this question, nor how to implement it, do we? Because no one knows, or else cares not to so boldly admit (out of step with mainstream thought) that the Earth is as hollow as Tesla and Eric Dollard both agree?

Vinyasi