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Magnetic Decomposition of Water
Looking into other R&D into magnetic decomposition of water..
Jones Beene Sat, 21 Sep 2013 10:31:08 -0700
DeepBlue is the U of Michigan's library access service to the R&D work done
at the University. IBM uses the name for an advanced computer which can play
chess, and the deep ocean trenches of the World could go by the name as
well. Coincidentally, all of these disparate uses of DeepBlue are related...
at one level (to be explained).
Thirty five years ago, work was done, published and then almost completely
ignored - by Dr. RL Curl at UM. The subject was the magnetic decomposition
of water.
That's right. This is no misprint. It was shown back then that water can be
decomposed into hydrogen and oxygen by only the use of a sufficiently strong
magnetic field. This is a correlate (almost an inverse) of the hot or
"pyrolysis" method of water splitting. Both are thermodynamic but one does
not require heat, in a way.
Catch-22 - field intensity required to split water is far larger than any
magnet available or imaginable (on the macro scale) - so the idea was
dropped and almost forgotten.
DeepBlue retained the memory of this work. And that is where we are today.
But now we also have f/H, LENR and other options to play around with. Curl's
paper came along before RTSC (room temperature superconductivity) was
thought possible, but even with that particular technology - the fields
which are required to split water are 1000 times higher.
This high field strength limitation is NOT the case with near-fields
however... well ... maybe not.
There is great allure here, for the field of alternative energy. Obviously,
no one would need LENR or any other form of almost "free energy" if water
from the Oceans could be split with only magnetism, since ostensibly that
field can be imagined to be permanent, or at least requiring low energy
input. At least we can propose that a stronger "free" magnetic field is
available in some near-field conditions such as with fractional hydrogen.
However and surprisingly - the process of magnetic water splitting might
work best with LERN, since significant heat would need to be supplied to
keep everything from freezing solid once the water split ... and curiously
it is about the same amount of heat needed as if the water was split
thermodynamically. That is to be expected.
With the magnetic method, however, one gets free Air Conditioning :-) which
is nice to have if you are working on factory ship floating over the
Marianas trench in the South Pacific (in order to get the free pressure
gradient of 15,000 psi. All of this can be tied together.
Heat or no - how does one get H2O to experience the near-field of a strong
magnet at 10,000 T? We are talking about a single layer of atoms at the
surface of this hypothetical magnet. Ah ... there's the rub but also, the
crack of light in the door. Going to the nanoscale, actually sub-nano, is a
necessity but it is doable with massive pressure. The bottom line is that if
it were possible to split water magnetically, say using trillions of very
strong "atomic magnets", then it might involve great pressure applied to
water to get the molecules close enough for long enough - and significant
heat would be needed to replace the endotherm of decomposition to keep it
all from freezing solid.
As to what that "atomic magnet" would look like, perhaps Randell Mills has
an answer, or more likely one of his "interpreters" has it. An "atomic
magnet" would possibly be a proton, and it would possibly have an electron
at very tight orbital. And it would need to be un-reactive or already bound,
such as replacing an inner K-shell electron of argon or krypton (which has a
10th orbital at the Rydberg level). And in the end, we would have strong
electric near-field as well as magnetic, as felt by passing water molecules
under great pressure, as they are split.
The 1/r^2 law applies to point-sources and the near-fields involved. With
f/H or fractional hydrogen one would presumably see both enhancements -
electric and magnetic fields at very high levels. The single electron of the
ground state hydrogen atom provides a near-field of about 10 T, but we need
to enhance that intensity by a factor of roughly 1000 in order to it to
split water on near approach.
That feat would supposedly require the f/H orbital be reduced to the 10th or
11th ground state redundancy level. Stated this way - we may be envisioning
a way to go directly from deep redundancy f/H embedded in an inert gas -
directly to massive amounts of nearly free hydrogen gas.
Too bad that BLP has been such a slacker in validating the theory...
otherwise this suggestion would get instant response. As it stands now, I
should try to get it put into cold storage at DeepBlue along with Dr Curl's
old work...
uence=1
Jones
Source: https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-.../msg86339.html
Regards,
VIDBID
Looking into other R&D into magnetic decomposition of water..
Jones Beene Sat, 21 Sep 2013 10:31:08 -0700
DeepBlue is the U of Michigan's library access service to the R&D work done
at the University. IBM uses the name for an advanced computer which can play
chess, and the deep ocean trenches of the World could go by the name as
well. Coincidentally, all of these disparate uses of DeepBlue are related...
at one level (to be explained).
Thirty five years ago, work was done, published and then almost completely
ignored - by Dr. RL Curl at UM. The subject was the magnetic decomposition
of water.
That's right. This is no misprint. It was shown back then that water can be
decomposed into hydrogen and oxygen by only the use of a sufficiently strong
magnetic field. This is a correlate (almost an inverse) of the hot or
"pyrolysis" method of water splitting. Both are thermodynamic but one does
not require heat, in a way.
Catch-22 - field intensity required to split water is far larger than any
magnet available or imaginable (on the macro scale) - so the idea was
dropped and almost forgotten.
DeepBlue retained the memory of this work. And that is where we are today.
But now we also have f/H, LENR and other options to play around with. Curl's
paper came along before RTSC (room temperature superconductivity) was
thought possible, but even with that particular technology - the fields
which are required to split water are 1000 times higher.
This high field strength limitation is NOT the case with near-fields
however... well ... maybe not.
There is great allure here, for the field of alternative energy. Obviously,
no one would need LENR or any other form of almost "free energy" if water
from the Oceans could be split with only magnetism, since ostensibly that
field can be imagined to be permanent, or at least requiring low energy
input. At least we can propose that a stronger "free" magnetic field is
available in some near-field conditions such as with fractional hydrogen.
However and surprisingly - the process of magnetic water splitting might
work best with LERN, since significant heat would need to be supplied to
keep everything from freezing solid once the water split ... and curiously
it is about the same amount of heat needed as if the water was split
thermodynamically. That is to be expected.
With the magnetic method, however, one gets free Air Conditioning :-) which
is nice to have if you are working on factory ship floating over the
Marianas trench in the South Pacific (in order to get the free pressure
gradient of 15,000 psi. All of this can be tied together.
Heat or no - how does one get H2O to experience the near-field of a strong
magnet at 10,000 T? We are talking about a single layer of atoms at the
surface of this hypothetical magnet. Ah ... there's the rub but also, the
crack of light in the door. Going to the nanoscale, actually sub-nano, is a
necessity but it is doable with massive pressure. The bottom line is that if
it were possible to split water magnetically, say using trillions of very
strong "atomic magnets", then it might involve great pressure applied to
water to get the molecules close enough for long enough - and significant
heat would be needed to replace the endotherm of decomposition to keep it
all from freezing solid.
As to what that "atomic magnet" would look like, perhaps Randell Mills has
an answer, or more likely one of his "interpreters" has it. An "atomic
magnet" would possibly be a proton, and it would possibly have an electron
at very tight orbital. And it would need to be un-reactive or already bound,
such as replacing an inner K-shell electron of argon or krypton (which has a
10th orbital at the Rydberg level). And in the end, we would have strong
electric near-field as well as magnetic, as felt by passing water molecules
under great pressure, as they are split.
The 1/r^2 law applies to point-sources and the near-fields involved. With
f/H or fractional hydrogen one would presumably see both enhancements -
electric and magnetic fields at very high levels. The single electron of the
ground state hydrogen atom provides a near-field of about 10 T, but we need
to enhance that intensity by a factor of roughly 1000 in order to it to
split water on near approach.
That feat would supposedly require the f/H orbital be reduced to the 10th or
11th ground state redundancy level. Stated this way - we may be envisioning
a way to go directly from deep redundancy f/H embedded in an inert gas -
directly to massive amounts of nearly free hydrogen gas.
Too bad that BLP has been such a slacker in validating the theory...
otherwise this suggestion would get instant response. As it stands now, I
should try to get it put into cold storage at DeepBlue along with Dr Curl's
old work...
uence=1
Jones
Source: https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-.../msg86339.html
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