Keshe Blueprint

[Ben2503]

True believer

Hi Guys
I believe everybody as I don't understand the concept of fooling people.
But after many i adopted the "If you think you can fool me, you are fooling yourself" credo.
So I believe mr Keshe, I started to read his book. He claims to be a nuclear technician, not a Ph D or so. Fine, than sounds honest.
Then is his book he starts to redefine a number of thing such as

Confused as I am, I skipped to chapter 25 to learn about the Keshe generator

Grapos generators can produce power from kilowatts to megawatts in seconds, by just
increasing the strength of the Magravs for the Dypmfs of the reactor or by increasing
the Vomafs coverage of the Magravs. We have called this new generation of power

Perhaps I can find some measurements / test results as promised in the Introduction and in other chapters

CHAPTER 26
Matters Experimental results and observations

None

Perhaps Keshe should just do some proper demo's and measurements.

[DavidE]

Peter Markovich: Apparatus To Rectify Ether Energy (ATREE)

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I. Preface ~

Humanity has long been aware of a unique form of energy that appears to be related to the electromagnetic technologies of modern civilization. These energies have been referred to in all ancient civilizations under a number of different names such as chi, prana, mana, etc. In modern times, science has adopted new names for it. These terms, whether "odic force", "orgone energy" or "bioplasmic effect" are no more than new terms for these ancient energies.

In fact, research by modern physics indicates that this energy is related in part to the classic concept of the "ether" -- an energy that would be composed of all known and unknown forms of energy (those energies that occupy the electromagnetic spectrum and allied types). Indeed, it now seems that the new physics as created in the early part of this century has not completely disproven the existence of an "ether" that would "flow" throughout the universe, but has just established the need to determine whether the "ether" fits into a new general theory on the relationships between energy and matter.

In this regard, the discovery of an instrument that could convert the "ether" into a more familiar energy form (e.g., electricity) would be a boon to the formulation of any new theory on the relationships of presently known energies to the "ether".
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[Bob Smith]

Oh boy...
Maybe we're going to have to reconsider how inventions like this, and a whole lot others functioned.
Bob
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[Web000x]

Why?

Why would a man assemble a team of people to introduce a series of new technologies worldwide that didn't work?

Why would a man establish specific Patents and then allow anyone to develop devices based on this proprietary technology?

Why would a man broadcast training classes worldwide as to steps to construct devices and to better understand the operation if there was no substance to the effort?

Why would a man give professionally constructed devices to 1,000 world leaders, if they didn't perform a useful function?

Why would a man make such extraordinary claims in so many areas if he didn't believe he could deliver?

Either this man is stark raving mad, or he is so far advanced from most, that it will take time to embrace these new visions for what they could be.

The largest space of innovative possibilities, first exist in the realm of the counter-intuitive.

Notice I posted the information so that each could discover the truth for themselves. Hundreds of thousands of others worldwide are following the same path...

I find it beyond belief that any one man would take so much risk, if there wasn't some offer of substance... at the heart of the matter.

When I see public displays with a bunch of hype attached, it makes me a little suspicious. There is no better way to discredit this alternative energy movement than to intentionally tout something to the public that doesn't work. All builders and potential investors walk away with a bad taste. I feel like the QEG was an attempt at just that. I'm not saying Keshe is doing that but it follows a similar parallel. Stay objective.

[dR-Green]

Why?

Why would a man assemble a team of people to introduce a series of new technologies worldwide that didn't work?

Why would a man establish specific Patents and then allow anyone to develop devices based on this proprietary technology?

Why would a man broadcast training classes worldwide as to steps to construct devices and to better understand the operation if there was no substance to the effort?

Why would a man give professionally constructed devices to 1,000 world leaders, if they didn't perform a useful function?

Why would a man make such extraordinary claims in so many areas if he didn't believe he could deliver?

Either this man is stark raving mad, or he is so far advanced from most, that it will take time to embrace these new visions for what they could be.

The largest space of innovative possibilities, first exist in the realm of the counter-intuitive.

Notice I posted the information so that each could discover the truth for themselves. Hundreds of thousands of others worldwide are following the same path...

I find it beyond belief that any one man would take so much risk, if there wasn't some offer of substance... at the heart of the matter.

When I see public displays with a bunch of hype attached, it makes me a little suspicious. There is no better way to discredit this alternative energy movement than to intentionally tout something to the public that doesn't work. All builders and potential investors walk away with a bad taste. I feel like the QEG was an attempt at just that. I'm not saying Keshe is doing that but it follows a similar parallel. Stay objective.

Abba - Money, Money, Money - YouTube

When channels of information cannot be completely closed, they can be rendered useless by filling them with disinformation, effectively lowering their signal-to-noise ratio and discrediting the opposition by association with many easily disproved false claims.

Disinformation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[DavidE]

dR-Green

Don't get me wrong... the Keshe process is nothing less than chaotic. Its just hard to believe that you would invite the following list of representatives - and provide them a device if you didn't have something substantial to share.

Go to this link and scroll down for entire list of attendees:
3rd World Ambassadors Meeting for Peace in Rome, Oct 16 2015 - The Keshe Foundation Forum

[Yvonne Hanna]

Quick update as things move forward Nowuser Na says he has got his unit up and running. "Resistive loads up to 5.4KW were added with another unit cascaded to the first unit, the meter rotates but slower than the rotation without the unit." Michel Grenier seems to have got data recorded "We have math and measurement means to detect what is happening within these devices."

[Ben2503]

Great stuff

Quick update as things move forward Nowuser Na says he has got his unit up and running. "Resistive loads up to 5.4KW were added with another unit cascaded to the first unit, the meter rotates but slower than the rotation without the unit." Michel Grenier seems to have got data recorded "We have math and measurement means to detect what is happening within these devices."

Great
I can't wait to see objective measurements.
I sincerely hope this is indeed the beginning of an oil free world.

[Turion]

As always, I am willing to contribute when there is a possibility that something may be real. I think one of these devices is just over $500 US dollars. I thought about getting one myself, just to see what's what, but I think I read that now there is also a mandatory donation that brings the price way up. I'd throw in a hundred or so if we had some folks who were interested in purchasing one to see if it is for real, but I am not willing to part with 800 or 900 dollars just to satisfy my curiosity. At least not without SOME proof that it is possibly for real. I have seen no credible data so far.

Dave

[DavidE]

Turion

Efforts like this, on this scale are rare. Most offers of this kind, have never seen the light of day for obvious reasons.

The Foundation "claims" to be contracting with people willing to join into production infrastructure by country. You want to start up your own venture to begin production? Make that request through the website. Do you want to teach the technology to others? Contact the Foundation through their website.

During many of the teachings, it has been stated that they realize that they will need hundreds, maybe thousands of such production facilities worldwide.

But it all begins with... does the technology work in any significant way?

I started this thread because it is consistent with what this forum is about. Enough details are provided in the Blueprint release of information, that will allow anyone to begin replications. In the coming days... there will be countless reports regarding how and why it works, if it works.

Believe it or not... many here are already assembling their replications. The larger truth will be known soon enough.

[Ben2503]

F****ing good business

As always, I am willing to contribute when there is a possibility that something may be real. I think one of these devices is just over $500 US dollars. I thought about getting one myself, just to see what's what, but I think I read that now there is also a mandatory donation that brings the price way up. I'd throw in a hundred or so if we had some folks who were interested in purchasing one to see if it is for real, but I am not willing to part with 800 or 900 dollars just to satisfy my curiosity. At least not without SOME proof that it is possibly for real. I have seen no credible data so far.

Dave

It's 800 euro, which is almost $ 1000. He has 1000 units made (where?) the units will most likely cost less than $10 when manufactured in the Philipines.
Shipped within 90 days of payment!!!
Good business. Very, very f***ing good business.

This is the Magrav-Power Car System. This product is shipped within 90 DAYS of PAYMENT.


Release of the systems are expected on or before October 26th. First 1000 units will be shipped before October 30th.

With this product, you are able to support a fully electric car. As shown on the 68th Knowledge Seekers Workshop, this unit can increase gas milage on your standard gasoline engine as well.

See also the 84th Knowledge Seekers Workshop: https://youtu.be/vGiTxBTnTKk

From orders received so far, less than 10% have taken the opportunity to donate. As per Mr. Keshe instructions, the price has changed to 799.99EUR, to make the donation mandentory. You must fill in the donation location on the bottom of the page. This is to support your own governments in the transition to the new technology.

That's why DavidE

[sprocket]

It's 800 euro, which is almost $ 1000. He has 1000 units made (where?) the units will most likely cost less than $10 when manufactured in the Philipines.
Shipped within 90 days of payment!!!
Good business. Very, very f***ing good business.





That's why DavidE

Just wondering what is the situation regarding import-taxes in the US of A. In Europe, when the 21% tax, plus shipping is taken into account, it comes in at over €1,000 (euros, not dollars). Does the US government impose import-taxes on items like these, and if so, how much? No 21% tax, but with €1=$1.10 at the moment, I feel it could cost a lot more than $800 to ship one of these states-side - unless there is no import-tax.

[RAMSET]

Phillippines ?

We have associates in the Philippines ,is this where the units are being made ?

more specific info would be nice ?
then I can make some queries.

And then get some very qualified eyes on the units.

thx
Chet

[sprocket]

We have associates in the Philippines ,is this where the units are being made ?

more specific info would be nice ?
then I can make some queries.

And then get some very qualified eyes on the units.

thx
Chet

Made in both Italy and the Philippines, with Japan allegedly slated to start manufacturing as well. I haven't seen/read-of any actual locations mentioned though.

[RAMSET]

Well
I'll try calling Our friend in the Philippines ,I know he will have strong opinions.

will let you know.

thx
Chet
Ps
If this does seem viable I will also help raise some funds to get this in front of qualified persons for a proper Vetting.