Davey's Water Heater

[elias]

I don't think so ...

won't this cause electrolysis as well?

In this case my room would have been blown out by now!!!

[elias]

Bedini's energizer

i belive the the way bedinis circut is designed, the energizer can self oscillates to what ever the battery wants for its resonant frrequency i noticed some batts seem to make the energizer faster then others i may be wrong as im newer to bedini,s works but i got the idea from the pendelum he made

Hi
Have you built a Bedini energizer? How does it perform? Have you been able to generate more than you put in? I was considering to build one.

I never thought of Bedini's systems being able to recognize the battery being charged. If this happens, then there must be a mysterious relationship between the coil and the battery.

Elias

[Sephiroth]

Hi
Have you built a Bedini energizer? How does it perform? Have you been able to generate more than you put in? I was considering to build one.

I never thought of Bedini's systems being able to recognize the battery being charged. If this happens, then there must be a mysterious relationship between the coil and the battery.

Elias

The frequency of the pulses changes depending on the charging batteries hooked up and their current charge. From what i see with my motor the wheel accelerates as the CHARGING battery reaches full charge so the frequency of the pulses is increasing to match the batteries.

someone correct me if i am wrong, but i think when the charging battery is low there is a higher impedance in the circuit (since the charging battery wants to swallow more of the pulse) so less energy goes into pulsing the coils and thus the wheel spins slower and the frequency goes down. when the charging battey is full the impedance goes down (cos the charging battery has a belly ache and can't swallow much more of the pulses ) and so more energy goes into pulsing the coils and the rotor accelerates so the frequency of the pulses increases.

as i said these are just my obserations so some one tell me if i am just plain wrong!

[rhozzi]

New

Being new to this sight, what does COP stand for?

[gabriolaman]

Coefficient of performance
Coefficient of performance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[gabriolaman]

Hi
Have you built a Bedini energizer? How does it perform? Have you been able to generate more than you put in? I was considering to build one.

I never thought of Bedini's systems being able to recognize the battery being charged. If this happens, then there must be a mysterious relationship between the coil and the battery.

Elias

yes ive got a bedini energizer currently my cop is like .75 ish maybe higher but im using one small coil unknown # of turns i made it from parts around the house wire i got from an old generator that blew up the transistor is from a power supply so it could be better

i have had some promising tests 2 dead dead 3 year old batts holding charge now its worth mkaeing but small units are not wery good but they help to learn and play with to learn about tuning

if you havnt made one you should even if it dosnt seem promising i imagine the larger units would perform better im waiting on supoplies to build a more practical machine

[hydrymoron]

The French language site Kanarev JoeCell Rasmussen tells of Davey's 50 year battle with the New Zealand authorities to get permission to produce his heater, which they insisted was "dangerous to the health and life of the users".
But it also mentions the fact that in Australia, a kettle was indeed mass produced without any official resistance using a similar design, though without the major energy saving aspect (perhaps non-resonating). Anyone from Oz come across this device? Perhaps it could be adapted...

[rhozzi]

How to get 50hz to tune Davey's heater

I received an answer to my question of creating 50hz using the Brain Wave Generater. The person said to create a binaural beat of 50hz (He couldn't imagine why because 50-60hz has some undesirable effects)...any way...he said to take a carrier frequency of 300 Hz for one side and another frequency that is 50 hz different(250 or 350 hz) for the other side.
I will try it and then put it on a cd in a 15 minute lenth; if I go ahead and decide to make the heater.

[amigo]

In relation to 50/60Hz frequency and human biology, I knew I read something about it somewhere, but it was awhile ago so hard to exactly remember. I know that it was relating to aluminum, calcium resonant frequencies, their decay and Alzheimer's dis-ease among others.

I did find one text that sort of talks about those things but I don't recall that was the exact source I was thinking about when referring to above.

Anyways read about it here and if I remember the rest I'll post a link.

[Karl_Palsness]

Peter Davey himself.

Just found this Vid of Peter Davey himself and his new and improved water heater.

Hot Music. The Passion of Peter Davey.

Also there is an article of him hear.

Sax notes lead to off-beat boiler - Christchurch News - The Press

[elias]

Just found this Vid of Peter Davey himself and his new and improved water heater.

Hot Music. The Passion of Peter Davey.

Also there is an article of him hear.

Sax notes lead to off-beat boiler - Christchurch News - The Press

Thanks Karl,

I didn't get time to tune one, But I would recommend you building or buying a variable frequency AC power supply for this purpose. This would make it much easier to tune it. The article says that he has worked on it years to make it operate like this, we don't want to spend years to make a device be able to operate at exactly 50 Hz. So It is more wise to build it and make the adjustments to the frequency instead of the device itself to see at what frequency the current draw drops, as it seems that should drop at a certain frequency.

Keep us informed of your results.

Elias

[Jetijs]

Here's what I came up with.
You could use a step-up transformer from those cheap computer backUPS, like this one:

Usually when the 7Ah battery in these goes dead, people are happy if someone buys them for small money, no one bothers replacing the battery. But the step up transformer inside is the best thing to use if we want to build a variable frequency AC generator, because it already has the coil ratio form 12 to 220 or 110. The circuit could look something like this:


We use simple 555 timer with external power, the output from the 555 is connected to a standard flip flop chip and on the output of this flipflop we get a perfect 50:50 duty cycle pulses only in 2 times smaller frequency than in input form the 555. Now we can pulse these impulses to an optoisolator that in turn opens and closes the transistor on the other side of the circuit. The advantage of this circuit is that we have our oscillator part completely isolated from the battery/transformer side. I used this when I tried to replicate the Tesla switch. Instead of the 555 and flipflop chip, you can also use a function generator without fear of frying it. This way you can adjust the AC frequency of the transformer as you need it. I used this with the 2N3055 transistors - worked fine
There may be other, easier ways, but this is what I would try.
Thanks,
Jetijs

[elias]

Push Pull Transistor

Thank you Jetijs for the schematic,

I attached schematic of the push-pull transistor configuration which can be used with the schematic you provided.

Elias

[Jetijs]

Hi, just had some conversations with my friend, a radio electronics engineer, and realized, that the circuit I posted above, wont work, because it does not produce a sine wave. We figured that the easiest way of getting a variable frequency AC, would be to use a function generator and amplify its signal with a car audio power amplifier. Then we just connect the output of the amplifier to those two spheres instead of a speaker or sub woofer. We just need to figure out the max power we will have deal with. I suppose 200wRMS should be enough. And you can get such 200w amplifiers cheap on ebay
Maybe someone more experienced in this field could make some comments about this idea?

[jason]

Hi Jetijs,

"use a function generator and amplify its signal with a car audio power amplifier."

I was going to use this idea for work with RV and TV stuff. Should work OK.
As far as the bowl for this heater, I have not read the docs on it yet, Could you hang your bowls up, tap them, record the sound, find the frequency or even tune them like cymbals?

Jason