The Great Global Warming Swindle

[ashtweth]

Tran-formative measures can be far better managed as opposed to giving junk climate science a carbon tax so money flows to corporations and the technology that can realy make a difference fades into the background.

Aside from the junk science and profit to a select few, the big corporations are unregulated so can then pass the tax down to the consumer in goods and services. Meantime there is no change over to the technologies.

So how do you change over then, the money they got taxed could of been automatically invested in things like Hidro or Industrial hemp REAL pollution reduction options. However its never been about this.

Hence we must show models that out perform their carbon tax, gas fracturing and oil drilling etc, we can ALL do that with Hidro and Industrial hemp, this info we will release to help all. We are going down the industrial hemp this year and raising money to purchase Hidro, these are the REAL carbon negative options. Cheaper electricity too.

Ash

[ashtweth]

Hi ALL

YouTube - Joanne Nova Nails It!
Scathing satire meets intelligent investigative analysis. Joanne Nova's speech at the 23 March 2011 "Carbon Tax" Protest in Perth is a must-watch.
The text of Jo's speech can be found on her excellent website here:

We are being deceived « JoNova

[Aaron]

David Evans, Carbon Accounting Modeler, Says It’s a Scam « JoNova

[bugler]

Look at this video of winter weather in sping in the US.

Video - Pratt, KS - Pratt Tribune

[Aaron]

cold and snowy spring

I've had snow, sleet, puffed ice (not hail), rain, etc... all on the same day a few times this spring already.

We're 1 month into spring and we haven't even had 60 degree weather yet!

We're all still have to heat our homes because it is too cold without. It is 50
outside right now.

It is supposed to snow again today AND tomorrow!

Would be nice if there was global warming 100 ft radius around me.

[ashtweth]

And with all bad ideas come bad outcomes

European fraudsters steal $7B in carbon credit scam : Abel Danger
Fraud within Europe's carbon credit trading system has cost taxpayers more than $7 billion in the last 18 months, European police said Friday.

Officials at Europol, the body in charge of co-ordinating police forces inside the European Union, say fraudulent activity on the EU's Emission Trading System was first suspected in late 2008 when police noticed the volume of trades in certain countries would mysteriously spike.

"It is estimated that in some countries, up to 90 per cent of the whole market volume was caused by fraudulent activities," Europol said.

Since late 2008, the total value of fraudulent activity is believed to be in excess of five billion euros ($7.7 billion Cdn) from bogus trades in European unit allowances, or EUAs, the credits that companies in some countries buy to offset their greenhouse gas output

[Aaron]

still a very cold spring

I've had snow, sleet, puffed ice (not hail), rain, etc... all on the same day a few times this spring already.

We're 1 month into spring and we haven't even had 60 degree weather yet!

We're all still have to heat our homes because it is too cold without. It is 50
outside right now.

It is supposed to snow again today AND tomorrow!

Would be nice if there was global warming 100 ft radius around me.

It is May 8, just a couple days shy of 3 weeks later and STILL, there has
only been 2 maybe 3 days above 60! It is supposed to already be hitting
the 80's right now!

Its been nothing but cold gloomy skies and rain - it is already a week into
May and many people have NOT even started to plant their gardens yet
because it is too cold!

[RedRightHand]

Here we go again....

It is May 8, just a couple days shy of 3 weeks later and STILL, there has
only been 2 maybe 3 days above 60! It is supposed to already be hitting
the 80's right now!

Its been nothing but cold gloomy skies and rain - it is already a week into
May and many people have NOT even started to plant their gardens yet
because it is too cold!

Aaron,

You do realize there is a difference between climate and weather don't you?




Red

[Aaron]

climate change

Aaron,

You do realize there is a difference between climate and weather don't you?




Red

Are you serious? Please don't try your childish stunts by putting your
meanings into my words. Please go bother a preschool forum with your
nonsense.

I know what the difference is and the trend has been to FREEZE us out
of this entire area over the last however many years. The entire CLIMATE
of this area has changed and it NOT like it used to be. Climate = temp +
humidity + you name it all together is NOT what it used to be like.

You are have been asked to not interfere with this thread because of
your bogus global warming misinformation attempts that have fell through
the floor - please go bother someone that actually wants to drink your
cool aid - thank you.

[Sun Fusion]

I can't say its a great video and loved watching it simply because it is alarming! Its about the possible future of the world! I guess all know about An Inconvenient Truth - the documentary by Avis Guggenheim - on Al Gore's initiative in educating people. All should watch it, it will improve your knowledge about the present condition of the world for sure..

[Joit]

Damage is done.

Source Climate Sanity He re-wrote over 5,000 Wikipedia articles!

[Joit]

Also read http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post129314

[dutchdivco]

The Inconvenient truth

is that the movie by that name is a crock! Oh, and Aaron, right on.A little enforcement of the rules is good for the soul, and for this forum.Jim

[Joit]

My Posting was indeed about pointing to that Guy William Connolley, a former Head of the CRU, what is spreading Misinformations and censoring other Scientists over Wikipedia, to bend the Truth as he do need it. The Informations, what other Scientists there did post are maybe lost again for a long Time.

Wikipedia itself stated, that they will take more care about, what is posted there, and to see, that they can find an 'average?' Way, to keep the Informations neutral, even when they allready leave a lot out, and even, when you crossearch William Connolley, then you dont find any negative Informations about him on his Page about this Event.
For Wikipedia i started somewhere else, not here, another Thread with the the Title "The Wankerpedia or Lyingpedia?". (Wanker can mean in my Language also a unsteady Person in his Mind -) That the Informations there are only 80% reliable is probatly common known. At last, it has some Descriptions, what do help a bit further, but Wiki is indeed another Topic.

[ashtweth]

Same old story ..we need an institution where ALL genres of scientist can make their suppressed material available for the public,SPECIFIC to identify this problem, the sum of material now days, if i think about it, the suppression of scientist and information exist in ALL areas, not just bunk climate science, FREE energy, medicine etc.

Here is one to remind us why we should have this institution.

Medical researchers angered by Govt suppression
By PM's David Mark


-Medical researchers say Australians are not being told about valuable public health information because governments are suppressing their work. Australian academics say their work is being blocked on what they call a system-wide basis to stop the publication of unfavourable results or because the work is controversial and could embarrass a minister.


Two Academics at the University of Western Australia have published a paper in the Australian and New Zealand Journal of Public Health on the censorship of academic research.They surveyed medical health researchers and found one third had witnessed a Federal, State or Territory Government suppressing academic papers.


Chief executive of the Public Health Association and the former population health researcher Michael Moore said he experienced the sort of government censorship that is denying Australians potentially valuable public health information."I was also employed by the Federal Government in a particular piece of research on gambling and that piece of research has never seen the light of day," he said.


"It didn't eventuate. The public service probably felt they owned it and didn't need to put it out into the public arena." Mr Moore said any censorship is extraordinarily frustrating and undemocratic.


"When we're talking about public health information, then it's really hard to imagine what the cases may be where the research has been done and governments seem to find a reason to contain that information to sanitise it, or suppress it completely," he said."What we really want is the healthiest possible society and a healthy society is one where information is open and apparent and people can look at it and make their own decisions."-End Quote