Aromaz Radiant Energy Joint Research Group

[Aromaz]

HV Radiant Pick up of Inquorate

@Inquorate

[Aromaz]

@Inquorate - Forgot one option:
You can still use your bell, just cover it inside and outside with di-electric and conductor layers.

[Inquorate]

Detector

Good thinking.

I'll try several setups today, and see which works better, right after I make my improved spark gap, I got some neomagnets :-) to quench gap...

:-) :-) :-)

It's the little pleasures in life :-)

[sucahyo]

@Aromaz, I have a suspicions that even if the amp meter show it as low current, at the instant the current pass the coil it will use maximum amp for the coil. For instance if the coil has 2 ohm resistance, and the voltage is 12 V the current would be 6 amp at that instant. So if the wire can't handle that amp, it will get too hot, damage the enamel and make it shorted.

About radiant detector, how about attaching it to volt meter?

For material, how about using copper rod inside an iron pipe combination like used in ground battery commonly used in telegraphic era?


What is the difference between HV radiation and radiant energy?

[Aromaz]

@sucahyo;

Cable:
One of the courses I am doing now is transmission of power - i.e. cable and even hollow tubes, etc. Will know more in a few days. At present I would say copper pipe inside steel pipe will work - should; but it is much more expensive and labour than the coaxial or impedance cable.

HV vs Radiant:

[samedsoft]

Dear Aromaz,

We have replaced coil with another one. It works fine.

We did not attached spark gap system... We use 12 Volt battery and current is high... I guess 1-2 A from the battery.

We cant figure out how you managed to lower the current draw???

We could not energize the 240 V 250W Philips IR lamp http://www.infraredheaters.com/image...0250%20001.JPG

But we succeeded in flourascent lamps..

Please help us on how to lower current draw to 10 mA with 12 V system depicted on the below pdf, page 13..

http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Tesla's%20HV%20impulse%20lighting%20methods-Imhotep's%20Radiant%20Oscillator.pdf

Do you think we Polyphase transformers may increase energy output?

Nuri Temurlenk
Turkey

[Vortex]

@Inquorate - Forgot one option:
You can still use your bell, just cover it inside and outside with di-electric and conductor layers.

Electrical tape does not directly shield, what do I mean?
Going back to the carrot, I like the carrot and you can eat it later.
Stick a neon bulb into a carrot, wrapping
electrical tape around it does not restrict human touching effect in
making the neon light brighter, if grasping the carrot on the electrical
tape.. it does shield light touching, but not grasping/holding.

Silicone is no good also, which was a surprise.

I can only tell you of what is or isn't working with very low HV.
How low is low, 6 volts source but this aspect scales up nicely?!?!

Shielding, removal of human touch from the observed effect would be a good thing, thus allowing observations of true effects not BLEED through human touching effects.


Plastic pliers anyone? How is plastic evaluating.

Some Observing, little
Randy

[Aromaz]

Electrical tape does not directly shield......
....Plastic pliers anyone? How is plastic evaluating.

Agree, with HV to make a reasonable plastic kind of shielding it has to be at least 1mm thick for every 1,000 volt DC. So if you want to shield you will have to use the 'magnetic way' - give it something else to re-direct. For this purpose is what I suggest the coaxial and/or impedance cables. You use the core cable and then the outer shield you use as barrier.

Optionally but much more technical is to use hollow shielded tubes and transmit the HV energy as electromagnetic pulsed waves. This is beneficial since there is virtually no resistance.

This far with my observations in the lab here, I find human hand visibly affect on lights running unshielded 28,000 volt is within range of 40cm, so I will assume that human hand will have effect in HV environment of maybe 2cm per 1Kv.

[Aromaz]

Dear Aromaz,
.... Please help us on how to lower current draw to 10 mA with 12 V system depicted on the below pdf, page 13..
Nuri Temurlenk
Turkey

@Nuri, I will need some time to go through what you are doing and see where somthing is wrong. At present until Tuesday next week I am fully busy with boat customers - big orders, so I have only short time before work day and in night to be here in lab and on computer.

At this stage I will say, play around with moving your earth wire connection to different places on the circuit - i.e. Coil HV to fluorecent tube to earth, Base of 2222 to earth, emitter of 2222 to earth, etc.

The time we had lowest amp draw was with 1x12v battery, 1xKSP2222A, 1x ST 2N3055 master (TO-3), 3x ST 2N3055 slaves (TO-3), 1x 12v ignition coil
50cm automotive plug wire to 3x21W CFL tubes in series with earth wire on other side of CFL tubes. Short 50cm antenna on base of 2222 transistor.

If I remember right the amp draw was as low as 30 milli amp.

[Aromaz]

@samedsoft

One more thing I was thinking of earlier:
The ignition coil must not have the build in resistor or capacitor/condensor.
Most of the later/newer models have these internal.

[sucahyo]

@Aromaz,

I see, thanks. About HV vs Radiant, I think in that case I will categorize the HV as radio frequency or electromagnetic.

Is there a way to make HV vissible? iron dust? laser in smoke?

[Aromaz]

@Aromaz,
I see, thanks. About HV vs Radiant, I think in that case I will categorize the HV as radio frequency or electromagnetic.
Is there a way to make HV vissible? iron dust? laser in smoke?

[sucahyo]

Ok .

About goal, what is the spesific goal you want to achive first?

Powering electronic with little input?
Efficient charging?
Low power lighting?

[Aromaz]

Ok .
About goal, what is the spesific goal you want to achive first?
Powering electronic with little input?
Efficient charging?
Low power lighting?

Ultimate to power light and drive motor.

BUT:

for now: To understand what exactly we are working with is th emost important, once we have that the rest will be easy.

[Inquorate]

Update

Still working on detector, have made a cool spark gap... Detector ideas/designs coming fast, will share what I've been finding soon.