Nine Points for Synthesizing Electricity

[Vinyasi]

I know this is the wrong forum for posting theoretical circuits which have not been built. Yet, it's the only forum of discerning individuals to whom I would make any suggestions.

[thaelin]

Hi V
Many new and innovative ideas start with none more than a theory. Theory of Relativity for instance. But then it is still just a theory. Theory brings thought. Thought brings experiments. Experiments bring new products.
So toss them out there and see what happens. In the end, there will be one or more that will take the "theory's" to heart and fly with it. Thanks much.
thay

[Vinyasi]

I know this is the wrong forum for posting theoretical circuits which have not been built. Yet, it's the only forum of discerning individuals to whom I would make any suggestions.

Updated attachment and added its associated files as a ZIP file...

[Vinyasi]

Turion Yesterday, 03:09 PM

There are 4 points I would like to make about electricity
1. Electricity is not consumed by the load, it is not "converted" to mechanical energy or heat. and the load operates because current passes THROUGH it. The load doesn't care WHAT you do with the energy once it has gone through the load.In most of our circuits the energy is sent to ground and lost.
2. DC energy can be recovered (MOST of it) if used properly, but it can only be used to create energy if you use pulsed DC
3. DC energy can be looped back to the source that provided it, while doing work along the way and MOST of it can be recovered.
4. We have had the technology to GENERATE energy for a very long time. The problem is we expend an amount equal or MORE than we put in, to get the energy out. That has to STOP

Thanks for sharing these thoughts with me.

I, obviously, have no expertise with pulsed DC.

And simulators cannot make the distinctions, which you are making, in filtering out the presumption that physics (namely, the consumption of power) has anything to do with the simulator's activity. This distinction (which you make) does not surprise me. Yet, it points out my oversight which I couldn't have seen by merely peering into various simulations of virtual circuits. Thanks for pointing this out.

It reminds me of a perception of mine (earlier in the year when I was drafting my provisional patent proposal and included within that proposal at pages 74 to 76 of this PDF file...[FN]) in which the consumption and generation of power may have nothing to do with anything which may "cause" these things to happen. Causality is our presumptive opinion we tack onto our experiences. Yet, causality and responses to causality may be occurring independently of one another.

[FN] - http://vinyasi.info/mhoslaw/Provisio...2063221840.pdf

[bistander]

Thanks for sharing these thoughts with me.

A quote which you included in the above post:



I am not sure from where you lifted Turion's quote because it is not in the normal format, hence my reason for using a screenshot image. I do recall Turion posting it or similar some while back.

I'd just like to point out that Turion's opinions expressed concerning "ground" and energy are stupid and have no basis in fact or science. I don't know why you included Turion's quote but encourage you to research the scientific definitions of electric circuit ground, earth ground, electric potential, energy, and circuit analysis. When you understand these concepts you'll see that Turion does not.

Regards,
bi

[Turion]

bi,
I know what I know, and you do not. I'm fine with that. As I have said, it's mind over matter. I don't mind, and YOU don't matter.

[bistander]

bi,
I know what I know, and you do not. I'm fine with that. As I have said, it's mind over matter. I don't mind, and YOU don't matter.

Welcome back Turion,

You said "energy is sent to ground and lost.".

Will you defend that statement? Define "ground". How is energy "lost"? Has any reputable, creditable source ever agreed with you that energy can be simply "lost" by being "sent to ground"? What evidence do you have that such a thing is possible?

Again, you don't know what you're talking about and making up BS.

Regards,
bi

[Vinyasi]

Welcome back Turion,

You said "energy is sent to ground and lost.".

Will you defend that statement? Define "ground". How is energy "lost"? Has any reputable, creditable source ever agreed with you that energy can be simply "lost" by being "sent to ground"? What evidence do you have that such a thing is possible?

Again, you don't know what you're talking about and making up BS.

Regards,
bi

I don’t deal with pulsed D/C because I don’t know how to deal with it from the standpoint of the simulator’s perspective so I don’t go there I only study what the simulator provides me and it readily provides an awareness of oscillating current.

Within that context it is often times apparent that the ground is favorable to the process of generating or I should say synthesizing electricity from the process of electrical reactance because a ground gets rid of energy and that has a Bizzarre consequence of stimulating a greater amount of electrical reactance to create even more energy per unit time then if there had been no ground to throw away the energy to.

One example of increasing electrical reactance is to place two diodes on a grounded branch subcircuit whose anodes are facing each other and an elevated resistance is between them as is illustrated in this Micro-Cap macro for a neon bulb...

http://vinyasi.info/mhoslaw/Parametr...lica_macro.PNG

... which I have taken the liberty of modifying from its standard macro...

http://vinyasi.info/mhoslaw/Parametr..._with_text.bmp

I define the process of throwing away energy to ground in terms of the net result which is a depletion of energy at the node adjacent to or penultimately adjacent to ground as the simulator tells me that this is occurring so I have to assume it is lost to ground.

So I have to agree with Turion in that sense at least from the sense of oscillating current.

I use the term of oscillating current as Eric Dollard would define it.

https://ericdollardfourquadrant.quor...pes-of-Current

[bistander]

I don’t deal with pulsed D/C because I don’t know how to deal with it from the standpoint of the simulator’s perspective so I don’t go there I only study what the simulator provides me and it readily provides an awareness of oscillating current.

Within that context it is often times apparent that the ground is favorable to the process of generating or I should say synthesizing electricity from the process of electrical reactance because a ground gets rid of energy and that has a Bizzarre consequence of stimulating a greater amount of electrical reactance to create even more energy per unit time then if there had been no ground to throw away the energy to.

One example of increasing electrical reactance is to place two diodes on a grounded branch subcircuit whose anodes are facing each other and an elevated resistance is between them as is illustrated in this Micro-Cap macro for a neon bulb...

http://vinyasi.info/mhoslaw/Parametr...lica_macro.PNG

... which I have taken the liberty of modifying from its standard macro...

http://vinyasi.info/mhoslaw/Parametr..._with_text.bmp

I define the process of throwing away energy to ground in terms of the net result which is a depletion of energy at the node adjacent to or penultimately adjacent to ground as the simulator tells me that this is occurring so I have to assume it is lost to ground.

So I have to agree with Turion in that sense at least from the sense of oscillating current.

I use the term of oscillating current as Eric Dollard would define it.

https://ericdollardfourquadrant.quor...pes-of-Current

OK.

You say "ground gets rid of energy".

I'll ask the same of you:

Will you defend that statement? Define "ground". How is energy "lost"? Has any reputable, creditable source ever agreed with you that energy can be simply "lost" by being "sent to ground"? What evidence do you have that such a thing is possible?

You guys need need to use a science that is grounded in reality, something that does real work, in real time, which can be demonstrated and is useful, not fantasy BS.

So appears I am off-topic here.
bi

[Vinyasi]

OK.

You say "ground gets rid of energy".

I'll ask the same of you:


You guys need need to use a science that is grounded in reality, something that does real work, in real time, which can be demonstrated and is useful, not fantasy BS.

So appears I am off-topic here.
bi

I thought voltage difference was the whole point of the potential for energy to manifest?

I thought ground zeroes out voltage difference?

If I didn’t know any better, I’d say this appears to be an argument of the definition of terms... not for validating the existence of those terms, but merely defining them.

Definitions do not rest on proofs. They rest on clarity of communication.

If a ground cannot zero out a voltage difference, then - by definition - it is not a ground. It’s merely one more node of a circuit.

[bistander]

I thought voltage difference was the whole point of the potential for energy to manifest?

I thought ground zeroes out voltage difference?

If I didn’t know any better, I’d say this appears to be an argument of the definition of terms... not for validating the existence of those terms, but merely defining them.

Definitions do not rest on proofs. They rest on clarity of communication.

If a ground cannot zero out a voltage difference, then - by definition - it is not a ground. It’s merely one more node of a circuit.

Bingo.

Ground.

It’s merely one more node of a circuit.

Exactly what the definition of electric circuit "ground" is. A reference node. A point. Look it up. Dictionary, or Wikipedia. So how can energy be "lost" in a point?

I like to use widely, universally accepted, common definitions for the terms discussed here. It has always been a problem with Turion because he doesn't know what he's talking about and won't bother to take the time to use the dictionary or learn the basics of the science which he attempts to use. How many times have I told him to look it up?

Regards,
bi

[Turion]

Probably about as many times as I have asked you to put your money where your mouth is or quit hiding in the dark.

[bistander]

Probably about as many times as I have asked you to put your money where your mouth is or quit hiding in the dark.

Like your big one? Your big mouth. You running away and hiding from the energy conference and your promised reveal. That was so courageous of you, to put your identity and reputation on the line. And then prove to the world you have nothing but a big fat lie.

I'm not hiding in the dark. I'm coming from the light of truth.

You should try the truth.
bi

[Turion]

I refer to bystanders page, rather than clutter up the thread with our eternal bickering.

[bistander]

I refer to bystanders page, rather than clutter up the thread with our eternal bickering.

We could give folks a link.

http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/14521-the-bistander-thread/page121#post507232

See ya,
bi