my smith kanapadz replication

[hartiberlin]

Hi Dragon and all,
please see:

Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[dragon]

Hi Dragon and all,
please see:

Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

I noticed you posted it as Naudin's circuit on the overunity site, keep in mind he hasn't posted a circuit for his unit to my knowledge, nor has Kapanadze. That circuit is simply my way of reasoning it out to achieve a similar outcome.

4 of the coils I've made for the unit have ferrite toroids in them, the one shown does not. I've used external toroids so it wouldn't affect the inductance of the main coils, this also works reasonably well. An air coil through the center seems to give a similar effect. There are quite a few ways to increase the current... get creative....

Probably the worst thing to do... is nothing. If you build it and it fails then your one step closer to learning the right way, you've learned something and the project was a success.

Below is another way of accomplishing the same thing... 2 toroids with a shorted cable. The NST is a small 2000v 10ma unit driven by a 12 v battery, the input is 12.5 volts at 250ma driving a 120v 7 watt bulb. This is also a reverse tesla scheme....

If you want to drive a resistive load with less energy simply turn it into an inductive load using an LCR circuit where you get a "recycling" benifit....
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[cosmo-lv]

i don't want to tell everything, but what i can tell is direction.

The coil in Kapanadze way is nothing to do with Tesla coils - no one Tesla patents has that kind of coil setup - except one patent who are nothing to do with coils. For now let's forget about this.

What i don't understand is Don Smith coil setup and how it can work without potential Los - i don't even see there Overunity. (actually everybody want to make overunity, but you cannot Bypass Physics lows)

There is only one way to bypass that Physics lows by the coil setup! (Actualy, i think this is hidden low or uncnown)

all Internet has full of garbage with teachings - do that and do this and you get that - with same and same wrong way - but anyway it is the same thinking and the same way which goes nowhere. (Unfortunately)

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everything is in the coil setup - actually in windings.
i don't open all the cards - how this are done. But what i can and what i want to do is to help with some Tips. and at the same time to let somebody think with its own head.

The reason for this is simple: lots of people not ready for this thing - Unfortunately

just give questions. (and if i can i answer)

1.) The resonance is not that resonance who everybody seeking
2.) Coil resonate itself and make some magnetic fluctuations
3.) Coil not runing with TV HV Transformers
4.) Coil Phenomena is that it runs around 50 ~ 60 Hz by itself (i connot explain it) and this is the reason why TV HV transformers not Work - i think not all models of that type HV
5.) Forget about modulations, Scopes and others - (this is not play a role, because without understanding principle this not make a sense)

[cosmo-lv]

P.S. and i'm 100% shure Dr. T. Henry Moray use the same coil in his box - there is no way to do it in different way...

/And Moray lamp design is to replace sparkgap Maybe he make some "Tiratron" prototype (i only guess) /

[juju]

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sorry cosmo but you are so shore of what you are telling... have you allready replicated this stuff?

dont take me wrong, just asking...

hugs

[broli]

@cosmo-lv's

It's one thing for people to ignore freely available knowledge that is proven to work, but it's another to mess around with people because "they are not ready" or "don't deserve it".
Please cut the crap already, if you have something to share do it openly and not with mystery talk or a self proclaimed messiah attitude. There were enough clowns in the past that did that and failed you don't need to join the list.
You will soon also learn that posting ideas and concepts is near meaningless if you can't back it up with a build. So what you are doing now is even more meaningless than that.

[baroutologos]

Since I really don't know how JLN or Kapanadze is actually going about it I've been theroizing on my own of how to accomplish it and came to the conclusion it's nothing more than a reverse tesla coil. Instead of putting HV low amps into L1 and converting it to extreemly high voltage you do just the oposite... put the HV into L2 and convert it to lower voltage and higher amps through L1. The trick is getting L1 to resonate with L2 in its reverse form.

I have been experimenting with reverse Tesla pulsing setups with no added beneficial effect noticed in any case.

Mine setups consisted of a HV source (80-90% efficient), charging a capacitor (15,25,50 and 125 nf) which in turn via a spark gap (carbon electrodes with or without magnetic quenching) discharging in a coil of many turns (air core or wound on ferrite core) and a L1 placed over it of few turns with a load (bulb) harvesting the energy with or without a capacitor attached for resonance operation. (actually without capacitor works even better) and ground was tried it several possitions.

In any case no running of the bulb at its nominal brightness was observed with less wattage even if the system was efficient enough. (80 eff. average)

i know you have said in the past you can run 1500watt resisitive loads with 500watts input, but this not what i see in my RLC circuits. and hard to believe to be honest.

L1 being very low inductance using the earth ground through a load creates a psudo tank in which L1 can reach high amps. I still don't have the resonance dialed in quite right with this one although it seems to drive L1 reasonably well ( L1 being the 6 turn coil - L2 being the 90 turn coil - L3 the reversed 30 turn ). L3 is used to raise or lower inductance to help match the two. It might even help to make this one adjustable to some degree.

Since in your setup all coils are actually one coil wound in different directions, cross-sections and different wire gauge, how a resonance condition can be achieved since the same current flows everywhere in the same phase?

In your setup, removing the ground at all, seriously diminishes the output?

Just a few key questions IMO

[cosmo-lv]

@cosmo-lv's

It's one thing for people to ignore freely available knowledge that is proven to work, but it's another to mess around with people because "they are not ready" or "don't deserve it".
Please cut the crap already, if you have something to share do it openly and not with mystery talk or a self proclaimed messiah attitude. There were enough clowns in the past that did that and failed you don't need to join the list.
You will soon also learn that posting ideas and concepts is near meaningless if you can't back it up with a build. So what you are doing now is even more meaningless than that.

Ewerybody want free peace of kake and sorry me: i'm not here proclaiming myself and i'm not messiah!

[cosmo-lv]

@cosmo-lv's

It's one thing for people to ignore freely available knowledge that is proven to work, but it's another to mess around with people because "they are not ready" or "don't deserve it".
Please cut the crap already, if you have something to share do it openly and not with mystery talk or a self proclaimed messiah attitude. There were enough clowns in the past that did that and failed you don't need to join the list.
You will soon also learn that posting ideas and concepts is near meaningless if you can't back it up with a build. So what you are doing now is even more meaningless than that.

Ewerybody want free peace of kake and sorry me: i'm not here proclaiming myself and i'm not messiah!

Sounds like you offended by something - sorry if'm saying something wrong!

[broli]

Free piece of cake? What the hell are you talking about. We need to advance as a species and not run around the bush. If you can contribute in any way please do we should be beyond secrecy and puzzle games.

You should see the irony of your own words. I'm not saying what you have to share will change much I'm saying if you do think you have something to share do it without all the circus of over hyping it and yourself. At worst no one listens, and trust me that happens a lot, at best it leads to a successful experiment.

Just share and move on, don't make a big deal out of it.

[hartiberlin]

Hi Dragon,
nice setup with the big cable in one loop
through the ferrite toroids.

But my question was, if you can test, if these 2 circuits produce the
same brightness on your lamp.
So does the groundwire going through the center of the coils
has any additive energy effect ?

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7679.0;attach=45262

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7679.0;attach=45263

P.S: You surely can use your version with the 3 coils,
just test out, if the groundwire through the coil gives out more
energy than not going through the coils.


Please let us know.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[Jules Tresor]

Bifilar coil

Yesterday JL Naudin added a link to his KAPAGEN webpage to a very simple experiment on bifilar coils Bifilar Electromagnet

[cosmo-lv]

Free piece of cake? What the hell are you talking about. We need to advance as a species and not run around the bush. If you can contribute in any way please do we should be beyond secrecy and puzzle games.

You should see the irony of your own words. I'm not saying what you have to share will change much I'm saying if you do think you have something to share do it without all the circus of over hyping it and yourself. At worst no one listens, and trust me that happens a lot, at best it leads to a successful experiment.

Just share and move on, don't make a big deal out of it.

You can say i`m fool and other words, but this is not the thing with who playing, there are lot of peoples who want to speculate with such cnowlage

i just share directions and not make puzles. Listen or not - this is your choice. My primary work is Esotheric and i see that wery well... Sorry

[Xenomorph]

i don't want to tell everything, but what i can tell is direction.

The coil in Kapanadze way is nothing to do with Tesla coils - no one Tesla patents has that kind of coil setup - except one patent who are nothing to do with coils. For now let's forget about this.

What i don't understand is Don Smith coil setup and how it can work without potential Los - i don't even see there Overunity. (actually everybody want to make overunity, but you cannot Bypass Physics lows)

There is only one way to bypass that Physics lows by the coil setup! (Actualy, i think this is hidden low or uncnown)

all Internet has full of garbage with teachings - do that and do this and you get that - with same and same wrong way - but anyway it is the same thinking and the same way which goes nowhere. (Unfortunately)

-----

everything is in the coil setup - actually in windings.
i don't open all the cards - how this are done. But what i can and what i want to do is to help with some Tips. and at the same time to let somebody think with its own head.

The reason for this is simple: lots of people not ready for this thing - Unfortunately

just give questions. (and if i can i answer)

1.) The resonance is not that resonance who everybody seeking
2.) Coil resonate itself and make some magnetic fluctuations
3.) Coil not runing with TV HV Transformers
4.) Coil Phenomena is that it runs around 50 ~ 60 Hz by itself (i connot explain it) and this is the reason why TV HV transformers not Work - i think not all models of that type HV
5.) Forget about modulations, Scopes and others - (this is not play a role, because without understanding principle this not make a sense)

So now you want to teach again?
Last time you said you are here to learn?
Broli hit the nail on the head, with "esoterics" you are in the wrong section of this forum.
And this "I know how it works, but you are not ready" thing has been exhibited by a couple of individuals already on this forum, much to the annuyance of the other members.

All you are stating is what an experimenter should NOT do, how about some enlightenment about how it IS actually done?
How IS the coil wound?
And it would be most appreciated by everyone if you could back that up experimentally. Experiments will make sure that people pay attention to what you claim.

[cosmo-lv]

Sorry if I'm saying something wrong, I'm not so good in English writing.

Anyway don`t understand me wrong I'm not here to teach! and i don't want to quarrel with someone.
i experiment 3 years with different types of Tesla coil setups - most of all is standard, but in last couple moths i find some thing was newer discovered anywhere and i not make it - all what i can say, experiment with windings.

And yes it is bifilar coil but in not standard way!
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And good bye - i'm not trust you here anymore! Thanks...!