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  • #16
    FLEET is NOT a conventional transformer circuit!!!

    Originally posted by quantumuppercut View Post
    From what I understand, the circuit is a transformer with primary and secondary. Primary is the input, secondary is the output. Suppose the typical formula for transformer is like this

    IV = iv for IV is primary side iv is secondary

    Conventionally if the voltage is double on the secondary, the current is halved. You claimed that the IV = iv relationship does not hold? Meaning

    IV (primary)= .5I * 2.3V (secondary) for example

    Am I correct?
    FLEET is NOT a traditional transformer circuit. It is a Pulsing LCR circuit from the basic Joule Thief acting as the primary. It has an LCR circuit in the secondary to be tuned to sympathetic vibration. Some historic information may help:

    Looking back at posts starting in July 2010

    Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnetsstanding wave.
    Please examine reply 470 very carefully. That standing wave is the proof that we achieved resonance. It is the uncut diamond that impressed the United Nation Experts. It is the absolute confirmation that their search of Overunity devices is fruitful. It will be in the scientific history books.

    Divine Revelations may take time to sink into the brains of Humans. Amen.

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    • #17
      Revelation is revelation. Weather it is divine or not divine depends on each person. If one must accept it as divine or one must accept it as not divine, such departs from the true teaching.

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      • #18
        The theory behind the Hidro invented by James Kwok

        The theory behind the Hidro invented by James Kwok

        Ashtweth brought my attention to the working invention by James Kwok called Hidro. The brief description is as follows:

        Hidro is a new discovery which can advance education. The technology parallels that of a submarine, which uses buoyancy, gravity, gas density and hydrostatic pressure gradients to ascend and descend. Hidro does the same but drives a generator through this motion. All these factors produce CONSTANT motion and make it possible to harness energy freely from the environment.
        Since Mr. James Kwok is also Chinese, I paid special attention to his invention. The following are my findings:

        1. He uses energy from air. The formulas used are:
        Ein = Pin x Vin (1)
        Eout = Pout x Vout (2)
        Ein = Energy of Air brought into the system
        Pin = Pressure of Air at Input
        Vin = Volume of Air at Input
        Eout = Energy of Air flowing out at Output
        Pout = Pressure of Air at Output
        Vout = Volume of Air at Output

        2. Ein can be much greater than Eout. That explains where the energy comes from. Energy from Still Air is brought-in from the environment. So long as there is air flowing in and out of the system, the system must be an OPEN system. Energy will be flowing in and out with the flowing air. Thus we cannot blindly apply the Law of Conservation of Energy.

        3. The supplied energy is from the compressed air at the bottom of the tower. Work is done to expel some of the water from the submarine type container. So long as the compressed air pressure is slightly above the pressure of the water column at that level, the water will be displaced. We can call this as Esupplied.

        4. Most people made the mistake of assuming that Esupplied = Ein. They did not see the fact that air actually flows into the system and flows out from the system. Air itself is not a fuel but an energy carrier. Ein can be considered as the bring-in energy. It can be much greater than Eout. The difference can be used to do work (in addition to Esupplied).

        5. Pin can be the minimum pressure of air at that water level. In the submarine type structure, that pressure can be much, much higher. The principle is similar to the water rocket. When a valve is opened, the compressed air will force the water out, generating a large thrust. The submarine container goes up both from the floatation and the thrust.

        6. At the top of the water tower, all the air is allowed to escape. Water enters the container. The density will be greater than 1 and the submarine container will help the downward motion.

        7. The Ein term can be engineered to be much greater than the Eout term. That is the magic behind the Kwok Hidro. Energy is constantly brought-in from air. The air escaping out from the top and on the way up will have much lower pressure and a little bit higher volume. The product will be less than that at the bottom. The extraction of energy from air can be verified by a colder air temperature at the top.

        8. The theory is now explained. There is no violating of the Law of Conservation Energy. Air carries its energy in and out of the Hidro device. That energy from Still Air is used. That energy is virtually inexhaustible on the surface of the earth. Thus the Hidro can self-run and generate extra electrical energy from the bring-in energy of air.

        9. Mr. James Kwok is brilliant in producing the mechanical and control mechanisms to turn the theory into a workable system. I salute him on his excellent achievement. With the bring-in energy theory behind, his invention will pass all academic scrutiny.

        10. Theoretically, it is not the best in terms of footprint, cost of construction and ease of transport. But if it is the first to be deployed in the Market, it will have its place in History. The steam engine is not the most efficient or the best, but it earned its place in history.

        God sends HIS angels. I am glad that this angel is Chinese. That will inspire many more Chinese Inventors. The Dragon from the East will rise. Is that a verse from the Bible? Amen
        Last edited by ltseung888; 04-17-2011, 05:24 PM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by quantumuppercut View Post
          Revelation is revelation. Weather it is divine or not divine depends on each person. If one must accept it as divine or one must accept it as not divine, such departs from the true teaching.
          Correct. I treat it as Divine. You are free to treat it as something else. But please do not give the credit to me.

          Any one is free to improve and produce Products based on the Divine Revelation. There are no patent restrictions on multiple LCR resonance bringing-in electron motion energy. The information is now in the Public Domain and "complete coverage patenting" is no longer possible.

          There is no need to even quote my name in any future research. I am not the inventor. I stared at the standing wave since July 2010 and did not know it!
          Last edited by ltseung888; 04-17-2011, 07:38 PM.

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          • #20
            The theory behind the Hidro invented by James Kwok (2)

            From:


            Originally posted by ltseung888 View Post
            The theory behind the Hidro invented by James Kwok Reply 18

            Ashtweth brought my attention to the working invention by James Kwok called Hidro. The brief description is as follows:

            Hidro is a new discovery which can advance education. The technology parallels that of a submarine, which uses buoyancy, gravity, gas density and hydrostatic pressure gradients to ascend and descend. Hidro does the same but drives a generator through this motion. All these factors produce CONSTANT motion and make it possible to harness energy freely from the environment.
            He is effectively firing a torpedo! That force is much higher than what step 1 can possibly provide.

            3. Most people (even scientists) may mistakenly think that the energy supplied to compress the air is the total Input Energy. They are mistaken. Air is not a fuel but an Energy Carrier. The total Input Energy should be the sum of the Epump + Eair. Epump is the energy supplied. Ein is the Energy carried into the submarine container by air.

            4. For a 100% efficient system Eout should be equal to Epump +Ein. Ein is FREE. It is the bring-in air energy. It is the energy freely from the environment More servers are coming. Amen.

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            • #21
              ltsung888 said
              "Since Mr. James Kwok is also Chinese, I paid special attention to his invention. The following are my findings:"

              From what I got off their site James Kwok is working in Australia and got his Degree there but I fail to see what his nationality has to do with anything?
              Pete

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              • #22
                Draft Introduction Slides

                These are the first draft slides (1 to 6) for the proposed seminar/workshop.

                The details will follow.
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                • #23
                  First Draft Introduction Slides

                  These are the first draft Introduction slides (7-9) for the proposed seminar.

                  Details to follow.
                  Attached Files

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                  • #24
                    Link to the draft presentation slides

                    The draft presentation slides for the proposed United Nations Seminar are in the following:

                    United Nations Seminar/Workshop

                    That site is chosen because I have moderator privilege there. Since the Slides represent only the first draft, I can modify them as needed. You are welcome to PM me or provide your feedback/comments on this thread.

                    Lawrence Tseung
                    Director
                    Help Seedlings Innovate Foundation (Hong Kong)

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                    • #25
                      Reply to Milehigh at overunityresearch.com

                      [quote author=MileHigh link=topic=785.msg13096#msg13096 date=1303164958]
                      Lawrence:

                      Please show me your equations to back up your claim that it works. There are no real formulas or equations in your reply #18 above.

                      MileHigh
                      [/quote]

                      In reply 18 in the thread:


                      1. He uses energy from air. The formulas used are:
                      Ein = Pin x Vin (1)
                      Eout = Pout x Vout (2)

                      Ein = Energy of Air brought into the system
                      Pin = Pressure of Air at Input
                      Vin = Volume of Air at Input
                      Eout = Energy of Air flowing out at Output
                      Pout = Pressure of Air at Output
                      Vout = Volume of Air at Output

                      2. Ein can be much greater than Eout. That explains where the energy comes from. Energy from Still Air is brought-in from the environment. So long as there is air flowing in and out of the system, the system must be an OPEN system. Energy will be flowing in and out with the flowing air. Thus we cannot blindly apply the Law of Conservation of Energy.

                      3. The supplied energy is from the compressed air at the bottom of the tower. Work is done to expel some of the water from the submarine type container. So long as the compressed air pressure is slightly above the pressure of the water column at that level, the water will be displaced. We can call this as Esupplied.

                      4. Most people made the mistake of assuming that Esupplied = Ein. They did not see the fact that air actually flows into the system and flows out from the system. Air itself is not a fuel but an energy carrier. Ein can be considered as the bring-in energy. It can be much greater than Eout. The difference can be used to do work (in addition to Esupplied).

                      5. Pin can be the minimum pressure of air at that water level. In the submarine type structure, that pressure can be much, much higher. The principle is similar to the water rocket. When a valve is opened, the compressed air will force the water out, generating a large thrust. The submarine container goes up both from the floatation and the thrust.
                      Please work out the physics and mathematics behind equations (1) and (2) in Point 1. You may be making the same mistake as most people in Point 4.

                      When air flows in and out of an OPEN system, one cannot blindly apply the Law of Conservation of Energy. One MUST consider the difference between energy carried in by air and the energy carried out by air.

                      Please study reply 18 and reply 20 in that thread carefully.
                      Last edited by ltseung888; 04-21-2011, 05:38 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Some more on the James Kwok Hidro

                        Some more on the James Kwok Hidro

                        The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

                        The above is the discussion of the toy water rocket by Tseung and Physics Students posted at overunity.com. The problem is complex.

                        Physics is the most fundamental of sciences. It provides a foundation for ideas critical to other scientific fields and the underpinnings for modern technologies.
                        The Divine Revelations of the Lord still require the good wine tasters and servers. These wine tasters and servers will help the Masses. Amen.
                        Last edited by ltseung888; 04-22-2011, 09:41 AM.

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                        • #27
                          Comments on a brilliant suggestion

                          Scooping Ash's Panacea "Hidro" report Reply 100

                          Suppose the invention use buoyancy by letting water fill up the cylinder at the surface and pump air into the piston side when it reached the bottom.
                          Let us simplify the case to which no work can be extract from the cylinder on the way upward (surfacing). Meaning it has barely enough buoyancy to surface.
                          The energy extract from the device going down thereby proportional to the water height H.
                          The energy needed to pump the water out is also the amount H. Such case cannot extract useful work.

                          Let us consider the two scenarios.

                          The top drawing shows air pumping into the cylinder. The energy used is H. As it surface, the cylinder expands which provide a greater surfacing force. Energy can be extracted from buoyancy. Air pressure is lost in the process.

                          The bottom drawing shows air pumping into the cylinder. The energy used is H. Since now we have a stopper, it is a constant volume through out. This time we cannot extract energy from buoyancy, but at the surface, we can extract the air pressure to recover energy.

                          The bottom line is, we can either utilize or recover input energy.
                          God sends his Angels to help. Humans have limited intelligence. Amen.
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                          • #28
                            Energy from Still Air in general

                            Energy from Still Air in general

                            It looks like some folks on the Internet never learned the fact that:

                            Air is not a fuel but an energy carrier. It can carry energy into Eair_in a system and it can carry energy out Eair_out from the same system. If Eair_in is greater than Eair_out, that difference in energy can be used by the system.Cooling implies that energy in the system (air) has been converted to other forms. It will require heat energy from the surrounding to replenish it. A true scientist should always have an open mind and open eyes. When he sees something that seems to contradict his knowledge, he should seriously investigate. Dismissing the new discovery automatically as hoax or unscientific is NOT the attitude of the true scientist.
                            Last edited by ltseung888; 04-23-2011, 12:04 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Email from afar

                              With the United Nations Seminar, the knowledge will spread wide and far.

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                              • #30
                                Building the Lead-out/Bring-in Energy team in USA

                                Building the Lead-out/Bring-in Energy team in USA When I do not seek personal benefits from the Divine Revelations, the Angels from the Lord will come. Amen.

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