Invention of a retired Serbian engeneer

[boguslaw]

ah, special wire used ? not good I hoped it was easy to replicate...

[Farmhand]

Very interesting. I have done similar one wire energy transfer at alomst 100% efficiency to power a 10w bulb using tuned Tesla coils, but he seems to not have any of those. Do you know a patent number for this?

Hi Jetsis, I was wondering if you could clarify that statement.

Are you saying you tranmitted or transfered all of the input power into one coil to another to power a load ?

Like 10 watts to the transmitting coil total input and almost 10 watts out of the remote coil to power the bulb ?

That is a big claim. If so is there any proof of that ?

How did you measure the power ? Was the bulb a CFL or a incandescant or a regular fluro ?

Because a 15 watt cfl can be lighted with less than 4 watts total power.

The wattage of the bulb and how it lights up is not really an accurate indication of the power used to light it.

Any video of such an important event ?

Cheers

[Slider2732]

I'd agree that much is within the word 'filtered'. That could be a small solid state Tesla coil type circuit in a box, that converts the frequency of the AC to much higher and then he sends it down a common or garden clear insulated wire.
The drill was most interesting to me...that's a bag of current. Great to see it on TV !

Not wishing to answer for him, I think Jetijs may be relating to common enough 1 wire Tesla coil experiments, where transfers are indeed really quite spectacular and readily achieved.
If I may demonstrate..this is my Wensleydale tower at 3.7V (Nokia phone charger), doing the 1 wire thing to partially light a 15W tube some feet away. Not the same, but shows the 1 wire technique.

YouTube - ‪Extending the field - with power‬‏

[Farmhand]

I'd agree that much is within the word 'filtered'. That could be a small solid state Tesla coil type circuit in a box, that converts the frequency of the AC to much higher and then he sends it down a common or garden clear insulated wire.
The drill was most interesting to me...that's a bag of current. Great to see it on TV !

Not wishing to answer for him, I think Jetijs may be relating to common enough 1 wire Tesla coil experiments, where transfers are indeed really quite spectacular and readily achieved.
If I may demonstrate..this is my Wensleydale tower at 3.7V (Nokia phone charger), doing the 1 wire thing to partially light a 15W tube some feet away. Not the same, but shows the 1 wire technique.

YouTube - ‪Extending the field - with power‬‏

Well I was asking about how he calculated the power is all. I know spectacular things can be done.

In the video you showed the CFL was lit by radiated energy from the coil of wire radiating energy to it which was connected to the HV of the little Tesla coil wasn't it ?

Which is very different to a single ground connection and wireless transfer using another Tesla coil so the power can be taken from the secondary winding "the few turns one" on the second tesla coil as real power. And can be measured.

Which is what I think Jetijs was talking about. Otherwise how can the losses be calculated ? Without measuring what the bulb is actually using.

Cheers

[Slider2732]

It is different and yep yer right, just another 1 wire method as a demo
I see what you mean about the measurements, bulbs are often difficult to discern their illumination too, without cameras auto adjusting all over the place. Patiently awaiting Jetijs next post, managed to confuse myself as well as others lol

[boguslaw]

It rather can't be Tesla magnifying transmitter because it require step down transformer also. This device from Serbian engineer reminds me Harpin circuit.
My conclusion is that magnetic current is produced and this is the same as harpin circuit output if it's carefully adjusted and working on stable very high frequency, forget about spark gap. His single wire may be just antenna and preparation is probably some process of making antenna better ... ?
Do you remember that was here one thread about harmless electricity produced from mains grid using capacitor ?

[Farmhand]

It rather can't be Tesla magnifying transmitter because it require step down transformer also. This device from Serbian engineer reminds me Harpin circuit.
My conclusion is that magnetic current is produced and this is the same as harpin circuit output if it's carefully adjusted and working on stable very high frequency, forget about spark gap. His single wire may be just antenna and preparation is probably some process of making antenna better ... ?
Do you remember that was here one thread about harmless electricity produced from mains grid using capacitor ?

I think you might be right it does look very hairpin "like" the light is very white from the incandescant bulb but it is not full brightness, looks like. and the wire looks uninsulated to me. So completely harmless and I think I seen people using water to wet thier hands then touch the wire.

There is no measuring that I guess. And I'm not sure if the output power from a "Demagnifying Receiver" can be measured either, but i think if it is filtered through some capacitance it should be measureable.

I think this is the goal, is to get harnessed free energy and convert it to usable energy for everything not just lights, though lights are very handy, that cannot be denied. Lights are good however they are lit.

I don't understand a man of his age trying to get a patent for that. Strange.

Cheers

[boguslaw]

I think you might be right it does look very hairpin "like" the light is very white from the incandescant bulb but it is not full brightness, looks like. and the wire looks uninsulated to me. So completely harmless and I think I seen people using water to wet thier hands then touch the wire.

There is no measuring that I guess. And I'm not sure if the output power from a "Demagnifying Receiver" can be measured either, but i think if it is filtered through some capacitance it should be measureable.

I think this is the goal, is to get harnessed free energy and convert it to usable energy for everything not just lights, though lights are very handy, that cannot be denied. Lights are good however they are lit.

I don't understand a man of his age trying to get a patent for that. Strange.

Cheers

Can you find this thread ? It was started by a man working with illumination in theatre afaik, he found something strange with an electric dimmer.Something like that but my memory is not as good as it was previously.

[sseti]

YouTube - ‪NEW TESLA, NEW SERBIAN INVENTION!!! MILUTIN MILETIC TAMED ELECTRICITY!‬‏

serbian to english :

0:27-0:40
I brought a light bulb to show you how does it work on a single wire, a single uninsulated wire instead of two or three insulated wires.

0:40- 0:46

this one uninsulated wire contains ahmmmm conduct all three: zero, phase and earth

1:03- 1:18
three insulated wires are brought to this one uninsulated wire, which than conduct all three: phase, null and earth and is totally safe. So 1 mm wire.

1:29-1:48
It can not cause fire, spark can not get out of it, it can not kill anyone. Even if we cut it like this, this will cause internal power cut and spark would not come out.

2:03-2:11
Here I hold the wire, hand can be wet everyone can check it

2:35-2:52
It uses 40-50 wats instead of more kilowatts in owen (boiler) for heating water. Temperature is adjusted as desired. Here is adjusted at around 40 degrees. When we release the current all this is (?thermo something?) and it slowly growing.

3:28-3:47
What almost no one could do is such a small dimension , because this small (dimension) is already conducting more than 5 kilowatt hour khmmm (he repaired him self) kilowatts. Over 5 kilowats even it is 1 mm, a little bigger could conduct over 50 kilowats.

Reporter said that he used this wire for heating water.

In the start of video reporter also said, tahat Milutin tries for over twenty years to convince the world about the value of his invention.

[Ras]

Just my personal angle: the "patent office" in Serbia might not be the best place to go to. Current regime in Serbia is completely corrupted, so I don't expect anything good coming out of his effort. Also, he probably does not understand that he would be giving his invention a much better future if he published it openly. He is old school, probably never used Internet, and he does not know much about the deliberate discrimination of patents by the corporations.
This engineer, like many others, still believes that it is only a matter of proving the validity of the solution. That is probably why he went to the patent office.

(if his solution really works, we are talking Bill Gates+ kind of money. Nobody is going to give it to him, no way).

[Slider2732]

Good heavens, I felt sure the wire was an insulated type, from the 3 wire tube type of device he showed. Then, the wet hands section.
Incredible stuff.

Thanks for the translation sseti

[Ras]

interesting coincidence, this was posted on Before its News:

Before It's News

Sorry, at first I thought this was an odd coincidence, now I see that it is an open source project.

[amigo]

Obviously we need to know what field he worked in before he retired as that might be a clue to whatever he did to the wire.

He said that all the current is contained within the wire and not on the outside (no skin effect?). Even if the wire was cut there would be no short circuits or sparks visible and the only break in the current would be within.

He also said that the wire can be touched and held with bare hands, regardless if they are dry or wet and they show that in the video.

The wire can also be used as a heating element with a slight adjustment of wire treatment/contents, going up to 1,000 C?! Hypothetically speaking, in order for this to work at 1,000 C, the heat would have to be a skin effect and thermally insulated from the wire itself, or it would liquefy it within moments.

In the last segment, he says the current is over 5kW in the wire on that wooden stick, even though it's only 1mm diameter and with a slightly thicker diameter, 50kW could be conducted through it as well.

Hah, good luck with the Serbian patent office, he would've have better luck under Communists back 30 years ago...

If you want I can translate the entire video but there's little useful information except what's already said.

[boguslaw]

Obviously we need to know what field he worked in before he retired as that might be a clue to whatever he did to the wire.

He said that all the current is contained within the wire and not on the outside (no skin effect?). Even if the wire was cut there would be no short circuits or sparks visible and the only break in the current would be within.

That's important because eliminates any coaxial special cable with hot wire inside and neutral and ground as a shield around.

He also said that the wire can be touched and held with bare hands, regardless if they are dry or wet and they show that in the video.

That leaves only magnetic field (strange alongated transformer core) or Tesla one wire transmission. First require special wire material second special converting circuit and a balance capacitance at the end of line.

The wire can also be used as a heating element with a slight adjustment of wire treatment/contents, going up to 1,000 C?! Hypothetically speaking, in order for this to work at 1,000 C, the heat would have to be a skin effect and thermally insulated from the wire itself, or it would liquefy it within moments.

Again : magnetic current (high frequency magnetic field like in Leedscalnin permanent magnetic holder) or Tesla HF current

In the last segment, he says the current is over 5kW in the wire on that wooden stick, even though it's only 1mm diameter and with a slightly thicker diameter, 50kW could be conducted through it as well.

Hmm...then it must be high frequency, because at 50Hz I can't imagine doing it or maybe strange wire like aluminium specially treated ?

[amigo]

I'm sure you've noticed that they've plugged into a standard 220V/50Hz outlet and from there he shorted the two (and later three) poles into his wire and had a lightbulb on the other end.

I do not see anywhere any boxed circuits that would allow him HF because they could not be hidden inside the power plug he used.

Like anything else, this will probably die when he passes on, or be stolen by the local politicos/mobsters. As I said, he would've had better luck in Tito's Communist Yugoslavia, than in this so called "democratic" Serbia.