Love um or Hatem

[Duncan]

did you read the link ?
do you inderstand french ?

i can give you a lot of link in french with
the proof that L HATEM is a scam artist

I am from paris and I visitesd the great Leon a few years ago
he never measure input versus output in none of his inventions !!

Hi Tagor I've actually been waiting for your arrival you seem to specialise in bombing this system and make it your business across the forums, It took you a mere seven posts over here on OU com

1/ Electricity Amplification Device - It's so simple !!! (Hatem Magnetic Cogging)

2/ Its taken you a mere Three posts to start your campaign of Libel on this thread http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...generator.html

[Duncan]

strange things hatem magnetic cogging - YouTube

2/ Untitled on Vimeo
3/ Untitled on Vimeo
4/ wtf ??? hatem device or coler? #3 faceplate and magnet temps - YouTube

5/ wft??? hatem device or coler? #2 face plate temps - YouTube

6/ well this just doesn't work - YouTube

It may seem like I am bombing you guys with information .. Its true I have worked hard to to put it all back together . I'm delighted to see its all being re- named and re-issued on various video channels .. good job! As for the information wouldn't you rather be working on an engineer able system where each stage can be verified demonstrated and proved until you arrive at a machine that is capable of of a huge > 1 C.O.P ? Or simply spend time,and money firing expensive arrows in no particular direction with very little chance of success ? For instance hows Ted ended up with this contraption?

Hatem Magnetic Cogging Device - Heretical Builders

Research on !! knowledge is gold in suppressed technology

In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
~Desiderius Erasmus

[Duncan]

hells bellsHow Parallel Path Gets Over UnityThere was another Einstein, he was french, his name was Hatem, page 1

[MarkV]

hells bellsHow Parallel Path Gets Over UnityThere was another Einstein, he was french, his name was Hatem, page 1

Yea I'd like to add a few things I made an account just to discuss the matter "MORE" with you.

1st of all logically if theses devices worked would't you find them being made and commercially viable for the world?
Or at least heard of?

Don't give me that suppression non sense if that was true the whole world would be living the stoned aged lifestyle.
There are millions of rich investors who don't mind making millions more or probably billions off of theses inventions.

For countless months I've been watching these videos and searching more and more but their complete rubbish. Honestly if it was true they would've blown up by now with the media and billions would've been made.
Still the world uses fossil fuels instead why? because these devices dont work.

TO make something "change" or "better" you need to understand why its not working or not doing the job well enough understand the fundamental structure of it using both PHYSICS + MATH. they give obvious truth.

So far all those devices prof nothing unless their being produced.

AND I doubt there is a patent for this anyway. If there is I won't think its titled under "free-energy".

Hey don't get me wrong I'd like free-energy to be around but I'm realist STUDY the systems STUDY the laws of physics then consider them again using math to prove you're work not just blabber about it like what other are doing...

Cheers..

Mark.

[MarkV]

strange things hatem magnetic cogging - YouTube

2/ Untitled on Vimeo
3/ Untitled on Vimeo
4/ wtf ??? hatem device or coler? #3 faceplate and magnet temps - YouTube

5/ wft??? hatem device or coler? #2 face plate temps - YouTube

6/ well this just doesn't work - YouTube

It may seem like I am bombing you guys with information .. Its true I have worked hard to to put it all back together . I'm delighted to see its all being re- named and re-issued on various video channels .. good job! As for the information wouldn't you rather be working on an engineer able system where each stage can be verified demonstrated and proved until you arrive at a machine that is capable of of a huge > 1 C.O.P ? Or simply spend time,and money firing expensive arrows in no particular direction with very little chance of success ? For instance hows Ted ended up with this contraption?

Hatem Magnetic Cogging Device - Heretical Builders

Research on !! knowledge is gold in suppressed technology

In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
~Desiderius Erasmus

Watched most of you're videos my friend they don't prove anything! Other than magnetic gearing.

They don't describe exactly how the excess energy is coming from nor do they understand what's going on I guess.

And again I'd like to say if they was"successful" wouldn't they be rich right now and we would all use it instead of fossil fuels?

They might not be lying but their definitely not telling the truth or they didn't understand the system and stated something completely false.

Over-unity can be achieved if another energy source is added to the system not created.

[Duncan]

more of the same...

Hi Mark I trust you'll excuse me answering your P.M message on the forum , as regards the patent numbers.
Here is the French Patent espacenet - Document original

As is always the case with technology that is regarded a dangerous by tptb it is contested else where, in this case by the U.S patent shown on this page which of course should be rejected out of hand if the US patents office does its search correctly.

EnergyStan Meyer - It Runs On Water ( Full ) Hydrogen Oxygen ( HHO ) - Zero Point Energy

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--QaRG6OTE84/T6Iz8jm5API/AAAAAAAAAI0/SG-EcpHCCZk/s800/DSCF0012.JPG

[garrys]

im with markv on this one what i see is a 3kw or more motor running what im told is 4 2kw generators which are each running a 500 watt bulb or at most a 1000w bulb, either way its not even fully lit. The magnetic coupling is cute but i bet it cost a heap and took forever to setup. Lots of interesting links thanx and good to see someone so passionate about getting into it and doing it even if it doesnt work we all learn something from doing it. This all looks to me to be more about the magnetic coupling rather than free energy.

[Duncan]

[garrys]

i think the only potetial in this is that the magnets will slip when the gens become overloaded but there is no multiplication in them. there is scope for the rotating magnetic field outside the motor and generators to have an effect on the motor and the generators as is often observed by people experimenting with additional magnets around their projects and of course there is the shaft load that has been removed but then there is the windage that has increased as well to offset these gains. A device that was publicly known 60 years ago with no result from it to date is unlikely to show something new and the guy with one of these in front of his house also had a lot of solar power and wind power there which wouldnt be needed if this worked in any way shape or form. And in all fairness here i must point out that every single off the shelf motor or generator is made in a way that shuts out the very substance most of us are working with that shows the possibility of free energy being there and so anyone with off the shelf product like these are surely fooling themselves and hoping to fool you and i as well. 1 watt above input is all it takes and that is the hardest watt to get once you have that the rest comes easy anyone with lots of watts without getting the first one is unlikely to have it at all.

[Duncan]

slip sliding away .....

i think the only potetial in this is that the magnets will slip when the gens become overloaded but there is no multiplication in them. there is scope for the rotating magnetic field outside the motor and generators to have an effect on the motor and the generators as is often observed by people experimenting with additional magnets around their projects and of course there is the shaft load that has been removed but then there is the windage that has increased as well to offset these gains. A device that was publicly known 60 years ago with no result from it to date is unlikely to show something new and the guy with one of these in front of his house also had a lot of solar power and wind power there which wouldnt be needed if this worked in any way shape or form. And in all fairness here i must point out that every single off the shelf motor or generator is made in a way that shuts out the very substance most of us are working with that shows the possibility of free energy being there and so anyone with off the shelf product like these are surely fooling themselves and hoping to fool you and i as well. 1 watt above input is all it takes and that is the hardest watt to get once you have that the rest comes easy anyone with lots of watts without getting the first one is unlikely to have it at all.

appearsLEEDSKALNIN.COM: MAGNETIC CURRENT RESEARCH

,https://vimeo.com/39001367?utm_sourc...aign=adminclip

Vortex Universe: Part 3, Russellian Science and Scared Geomtery of Spiraling Phi - YouTubeengineer1 watt challenge.wmv - YouTube

any more reference to that one watt evil rubbish will confirm your a very naughty boy!

However the very best wishes and I hope the explanation helps.


PS if you decide to build make sure the prime mover is uber efficent (which is why the systems escaped the drag net for 60 years) Leon made a mechanical system

[Matthew Jones]

I don't pretend to understand why or how this works. I have in the past played with it and there is something to it. I mostly found the things that you do not want to do with it and it was frustrating project, for me anyway.
The thing I remember the most is the speed issues with it. At certain speeds the magnets would disconnect. No loads mind you. You could not gear infinitely with this kind if setup even in a freewheel state.

I have always looked backed on it, as I started to study Howard Johnson's magnetic theories and assemblies, which I have now quite a bit of experience with, and wondered what it was that cause the decoupling at certain speeds. Magnetism has a peculiar behavior when the field align to 30 deg or 60 deg angles. Anyone can measure HJ drawing and find that he used it extensively. If you can't find it in the drawing he did not put it there for a reason. But its still there.

"Hast thou entered into the treasure of the snow?"...Job 38:22

Snow flakes only have one commonality. They always branch at 60 degrees to start then from there on out they branch in 30 and 60 degree patterns.
Physics cannot mathematically predict why water does this when freezing.
So physics lacks the fundamental knowledge to predict natural magnetic behavior. Lets not even begin on the unknowns of gravity.

This type of system will assuredly have some 30 and 60 degree alignments as the magnets rotate on the wheel. Since we do not yet understand what happens at these angles (And I can prove something happen, and have many times...) There very well may be an inflow of energy to this system that is not explainable under Faraday's definition to magnetism.

So to say that all we have to do is apply physics to the problem and we will understand that there is nothing here is nonsense (No offense intended). Very little is understood about magnetism, Is the feeling I get. There are lots of things that happen in the natural that are only speculated on by very free thinking physicists, but will never be proven through the Human understanding of Math.

I eagerly wait for the day we can ask the creator what the answer is, but until then I'll look myself.

Matt

[Duncan]

New Free Energy - YouTube
without some sort of feed back this system self destructs any one got a decent simple feed back control circuit for me ?
I do have more Information on this system Matt but I hesitate to throw it on open forum as its copyrighted stuff .. however I have PM'd the info to you and rather hope you can make the time to read through it as I would welcome a second opinion on this research .either by PM or preferably reworded and on open forum
Best wishes Duncan

[Matthew Jones]

New Free Energy - YouTube
without some sort of feed back this system self destructs any one got a decent simple feed back control circuit for me ?
I do have more Information on this system Matt but I hesitate to throw it on open forum as its copyrighted stuff .. however I have PM'd the info to you and rather hope you can make the time to read through it as I would welcome a second opinion on this research .either by PM or preferably reworded and on open forum
Best wishes Duncan

I'll PM you back once I read through it all.
I have read one of them before and the Author has tendency to think a little too far out my liking, but its not to say he doesn't have point. I tend to shy away from any explanation that includes Gravity, as its a mystery. Where as magnetism in unconventional terms is not as much of a mystery especially if you factor in Johnson's work. Which seems to add up more than not.

I'll hollar you soon.

Matt

[Duncan]

Water, Consciousness & Intent: Dr. Masaru Emoto - YouTube

https://vimeo.com/11915668

LeeskalninPhysics2.wmv - YouTube
best wishes Duncan