Vibrator powering Bedini Coil

[john_g]

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3173344/new-vibrator-344k?da=y

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3187831/vibrator-apart-jpg-october-9-2011-4-25-pm-607k?da=y

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3187832/vibrator-chrysler-2197016-jpg-october-9-2011-4-25-pm-328k?da=y

What I find surprising about these is they are very quiet in operation and smooth; quite a lot of design thought was put into these as can be seen in a design book by Mallory:

http://www.pmillett.com/tubebooks/Books/mallory_vibe.pdf

I have connected one up to a winding on a multi stand coil and shown the result from the scope reading:

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3173345/scope-readings-300v-585k?da=y

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3173343/vibrator-contacts-551k?da=y

Regards

John

[gyula]

Hi John,

Your post topic recalls Ossie's battery charger setup of some years ago in which he placed a vibrating reed switch into the base of a switching transistor and got multiple spikes from the series of collapsing field sequences instead of a single switch on spike, perhaps you had come across his document on it too:

http://www.fluxite.com/WorkingRadiantEnergy.pdf

I mention this because his reed switch may be substituted by such a vibrator and perhaps the latter would be more durable than the reed switch. Especially when used in series with the base-emitter electrodes of a transistor with an also series resistor to reduce any excess current due to higher than 6V supply voltages. Although Ossie suggested two reed switches in series to reduce the wear-out process (see his post on this here
A Working Radiant Free Energy System ) I believe the use of such vibrator in his setup could lead to higher power levels.

Gyula

PS Is there somewhere a schematic on the transistorized type that replaced the mechanical ones?

[john_g]

Hi Gyula

I hadn't seen Ossies thread - will have a look. For some reason the coil I'm using doesn't like an inline resistance - need to look into this more, however the spikes are impessive.

Some info here on solid state replacements of vibrators:

The AWA Journal - More Adventures With Transistors

If you google "replacing radio vibrator with transistor" you should get some more info.

Regards

John

[john_g]

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3189213/25ms-jpg-october-10-2011-10-24-am-682k?da=y

5ms:

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3189212/5ms-jpg-october-10-2011-10-24-am-717k?da=y

500us:

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3189215/500us-jpg-october-10-2011-10-24-am-651k?da=y

25us:

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3189214/25us-jpg-october-10-2011-10-24-am-674k?da=y

1us:

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3189211/1us-jpg-october-10-2011-10-24-am-741k?da=y

I wonder if this is what John Bedini is looking at in the FEG page21?

Regards

John

[gyula]

Hi John,

Thanks for the link, was useful and now that I have learnt about the inner world of vibrators I think that replacing the reed switch in Ossie's setup with either a mechanical or a SS type vibrator would not be a brilliant idea, lol.
Nevertheless I found this SS type vibrator worth to recall when someone needs it:

http://www.radiomuseum.org/forumdata/upload/homemade_vibrator_120hz.png

Perhaps your coil does not like an inline resistance because it is sensitive to the voltage level and a voltage drop across the resistance is excessive? In case of a 6V vibrator in a car radio probably the coil was optimized for a voltage range the 6V battery established i.e. between 6-7.5V, to keep the vibration frequency within spec.

Thanks, Gyula

Hi Gyula

I hadn't seen Ossies thread - will have a look. For some reason the coil I'm using doesn't like an inline resistance - need to look into this more, however the spikes are impessive.

Some info here on solid state replacements of vibrators:

The AWA Journal - More Adventures With Transistors

If you google "replacing radio vibrator with transistor" you should get some more info.

Regards

John