COP 17 Heater | Rosemary Ainslie | Part 2

[witsend]

Hi B

There are lots of 'over unity' claims. But the measurements are what's always required. Ours has the advantage of being measurable - is all. But, to the best of my knowledge there are no such things as 'running forever' circuits. Even under optimised switching conditions our own circuit would not be 'closed' circuit. There will always be a loss even if it's at the resistor.

Personally I don't think that the electromagnetic interaction on electric circuitry can ever be 'closed'. But I do think it's possible to develop a perpetual 'motor' but not under the conditions that have been explored in these threads. That's for another exercise - another day.

I think that if one could stabilise the voltage at the supply then we could get ours to something closer to a closed system. We're exploring that option in our 'applications' test. By the way - don't overlook the potential of winding thin wire into thicker wire. It should - theoretically - work just as well. Just use the 'core' width ratios that Glen has shown. And this only if you opt to do our test.

And thanks b4Free for the good wishes. And indeed Sjalom. And let us know which test you end up with. I'd be most interested.

[b4FreeEnergy]

Hi B

There are lots of 'over unity' claims. But the measurements are what's always required. Ours has the advantage of being measurable - is all. But, to the best of my knowledge there are no such things as 'running forever' circuits. Even under optimised switching conditions our own circuit would not be 'closed' circuit. There will always be a loss even if it's at the resistor.
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Running ‘forever’ is a long time of course but if you take the example of a waterwheel, it runs as long as the water is running, it is not a perpetual mobile but it sure looks like one. There must be a way to do a similar thing with energy being available all the time in the universe we live in. We just need an easy way to tap into that just as the waterwheel does … And for that matter the universe will still be there a long time after we’re gone!

[b4FreeEnergy]

Hi B
By the way - don't overlook the potential of winding thin wire into thicker wire. It should - theoretically - work just as well. Just use the 'core' width ratios that Glen has shown. And this only if you opt to do our test.

Rosemary, I was just thinking, what about you sending me 10 meters of that resistance wire? I could find it in a shop in Germany. You can order it on the internet but it would cost me about 50€ to get a few meters delivered at home. They even have 1.5mm thickness, but hey 50€’s for a little piece of wire. Mazzeltov! B

[witsend]

… And for that matter the universe will still be there a long time after we’re gone!

LOL I certainly hope so. And that there's some intelligent life in that universe. We seem hide bound to resist qualifying here. I think the first qualification would be to get back to learning from Nature and not expect Nature to conform to what we want. But who knows what the future holds. We need to advise our learned and revered which is challenging. But it seems to be doable. At long last. My fingers are crossed all over the place. So much so I can barely type at this keyboard. I'll give a full update later. But things are looking better and better.

[witsend]

Rosemary, I was just thinking, what about you sending me 10 meters of that resistance wire? I could find it in a shop in Germany. You can order it on the internet but it would cost me about 50€ to get a few meters delivered at home. They even have 1.5mm thickness, but hey 50€’s for a little piece of wire. Mazzeltov! B

I've got to source wire here for my own tests b4Free. I'll definitely look into this option. 50Euros??? that's exorbitant. Something's wrong. That works out to plus/minus R350.00. It's crazy. I'll get back to you after the weekend B.

Glad to see our test is still and option. LOL.

[b4FreeEnergy]

I've got to source wire here for my own tests b4Free. I'll definitely look into this option. 50Euros??? that's exorbitant. Something's wrong. That works out to plus/minus R350.00. It's crazy. I'll get back to you after the weekend B.

Glad to see our test is still and option. LOL.

If you send me that wire, I will send you a box of Belgian chocolates in return ...

[witsend]

Sounds fair trade to me b4Free. I'll let you know when I get to source everything.

Have a really good weekend. I need to do some work here but hope to get some kind of a break later tomorrow.

[witsend]

Ok Guys, here's the promised update. We've got access to campus laboratory space for the assembly of the boiler appliance. And the good news here is that the appliance will come with academic accreditation. AT LAST. This is all that's been missing. This means that when we get around to 'manufacture' we'll not be seen to be perpetrating a 'con'. It's got to be good. We'll be doing the assembly of the boiler on a respectable campus and accreditation of results will then be courtesy some very real expertise that will - at its least - also carry some very real authority. Golly. It's taken me 10 years to get this far. But at least its progress.

So. All's good. Onwards and upwards. I'll get some more details posted during the course of next week. If anyone knows how to source a MOSFET that can take 7000 volts - let me know. LOL. What a nice problem.

The details of the circuit components are still being sourced and costed. We should be able to firm up on this during the course of next week.

[b4FreeEnergy]

Congratulations !
What happened with the MIB? Did they simply give up? (Just teasing)

[Groundloop]

Rosemary,

You do not need the mosfet to be a high voltage type. You only need the
mosfet to take the power supply voltage (+ some more voltage for margin).
Then you use two ultra fast Schotty diodes to handle the high voltage bemf
voltage spikes like shown in the drawing. The D1 must be able to handle the
high voltage and current. The D2 must handle high voltage but not so high
current. See drawing.



Groundloop.

[witsend]

Rosemary,

You do not need the mosfet to be a high voltage type. You only need the
mosfet to take the power supply voltage (+ some more voltage for margin).
Then you use two ultra fast Schotty diodes to handle the high voltage bemf
voltage spikes like shown in the drawing. The D1 must be able to handle the
high voltage and current. The D2 must handle high voltage but not so high
current. See drawing.

Groundloop.

Thanks for this Groundloop. I'm aware that we can use the diodes but my concern is that it may compromise that resonance. I'd prefer it to just scale up if possible. But we should be able to get the required. Another concern is the noise. On previous tests we used a rectified current from a variac. It switched way too slowly but it also had way too much noise. Nice heat though. Do any of you have suggestions re the noise. Or will this be reduced at a faster switching frequency? I guess the only way to find out is when we actually do the experiments. Can't wait.

[Aaron]

thermocouple circuit project

In case it is of interest:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...t-project.html

[witsend]

I've been looking into IGBT's. Groundloop - if you're reading here - or anyone - can you advise whether you think these might satisfy the kind of 'robust' performance that we need on a scaled up model? And what, if anything, are the downsides. From what I read the latest - 3rd generation - are pretty robust and very fast switching.

Be very glad of advice here guys.

[witsend]

Still hoping for feeback re those IGBT's. Have any of you experts any advices here?

And Aaron, I'm intrigued. Are you still doing tests on either my circuit - or as Glen prefers to call it - the Mosfet Heating circuit?

And, by the way, there's a problem with the way our first thread has been 'locked'. It seems we can no longer access the 'readership' count. Can you please re-install this? Otherwise it's historical value will be entirely lost.

Thanks

[Harvey]

Already discussed in your previous thread.

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