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Hi ALL ! I found a similar patent
Motor alternator US 4567407 1982 John W. Ecklin
Hi ALL ! I found a similar patent
Motor alternator US 4567407 1982 John W. Ecklin
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'' Unless of course they accuse me of being a liar, a fraud, or incapable of reading my scope. With that I take issue. And as I have seen COP>1 many times, I guess I am here to encourage others to keep looking. ''
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Dave, I 've grown over the years to the point that I ignore the naysayers,
accusers, only because I've seen how much time I've lost trying to convert some people.
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Now, I just roll on forward with the less resistance and focus on positive people,
researchers, etc. that share a similar vision(s)- and Not that we disagree, but
all that adds to a healthy challenge.
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All the best, GregComment
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Registration Information and Course Syllabus
QEG:101 Reaching Resonance and Beyond!
Instructor: James Robitaille
In this 10 week course you will be instructed on how to build the basic components of the QEG, get it to power a load from a source of electrical resonance (mechanically pumped parametric resonance), and investigate next/latest steps of co-development (results of the latest research and experiments will be discussed in first class and presented in classes 9 and 10).
Our online meetings will take place in a Zoom room. Details/instructions will be provided 2 days prior to class starting time with your registration/confirmation email. Zoom is not complicated but it requires you have some computer experience (getting online, email address, etc.). Classes begin on Saturday January 17, 2015 promptly at 6 PM EST (will go to 8 PM or a little longer if necessary), and continue every Saturday at the same time until last class on March 21st.
Register for the entire course by midnight January 15th for $200, or for individual classes (see curriculum below) at $35 each up to 2 days prior to that class. We have 90 spaces available which will be filled on a first come, first served basis.
NOTE: If you have been to a QEG build please contact us for special instructions at [email protected] before registering.
IMPORTANT: You must have some knowledge and experience with machinery, tools and electrical/electronic test equipment prior to building a QEG. We assume if you are taking this class you have a basic understanding in these areas, or access to partners who have these skills.
Curriculumthe QEG is still in development, still working on Phase 3 (self-running) of the prototype. James offers his knowledge of the process in a clear and precise, step-by-step manner.
We have some interesting new findings from experiments with Tesla Energy Solutions in Florida, and are in the process of getting equipment shipped and setting up the lab here so the new experiments can be evaluated. Please write to mailto: [email protected] with any questions or concerns.
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hi there is a company specialiced in make reactive energy usefull
it seems most of qeg output is reactive and dificult to handle
Ortronic, the only technology that recovers the reactive energyComment
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Great stuff
Hi Greg.Originally posted by greatwest1 View Post
I spend more than a year searching the web for a real COP>1 machine that actually works, without success.
Could you please help me to find one.
Thanks,
BenComment
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Hi perhaps i can help you a little to find:
You are walking, living on a free energy perpetual motion machine, do you see some gas engine on the statosphera moving the Earth?
You are made of atoms with electrons moving around at light speed for millions of years without visible source of energy.
There must be thousands of free energy machines going arround from 100 years ago to today but must keep underground cause the big dark cabal that control the world want us to be slaves paying for their oil and BS.Comment
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light at the end of the tunnel?
I am not sure how this helps me .Originally posted by pedroxime View Post
I heard the other day that the Rockefellers sold their interest in the oil industry.
BenComment
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hi ben, sorry i have problems with my keyboard.
here you have one company begining to deliver this month, 2 years warranty. and many more to come
Welcome to AuroraTekComment
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Simple Design
Hi All ! I simplified the design . QEG - 99 cent ) ) )Attached FilesComment
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make it resonant?
Hi Boris.Originally posted by BorisKrabow View Post
this makes it much clearer, however I feel you perhaps over simplified it.
It eems to me that you have make the circuits resonant by adding capacitors, in series if you want low voltage high amps, or parallel if you want high voltage.
Best regards,
BenComment
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This is Ron Brandt's "Ecklin Variable Reluctance Generator"!!
Good find!Originally posted by BorisKrabow View PostHi ALL ! I found a similar patent
Motor alternator US 4567407 1982 John W. Ecklin
Do you know what this thing actually is and who built it??
It's Ron Brandt's "Ecklin Variable Reluctance Generator". See page 14 in this pdf, with a photograph of (the main frame of) the exact same device:
Recently, they released these video's, which contain a presentation by Ron Brandt with his motor:
You can find more about this Ecklin device here:
John W Ecklin -- Stationary armature generator -- US Patent 3879633, US Patent 4567407, 12 articles
Ron's Ecklin device seems to have been his first prototype, which eventually led to his PermMag motor, of which they've made the plans available on Google drive just months ago:
FREE Ron Brandt Plans
From the conversations about Ron, it does seem that these guys have been in contact with him. Also, they have photo's of his workshop and other things, and the plans do seem to match what Ron showed in the 1995 conference, which was announced in the Extraordinary Science article from 1994, btw.
Interestingly, there are no photographs with a properly wound PermMag motor stator.
From what I make of it, this is essentially "magnetic flux switching" technology:
This is the same principle as has been patented as the "MEG" by a/o Tom Bearden. His colleagues posted a very interesting video, explaining how they got to the MEG design and how "flux switching" works:
So, it seems these guys do have at least Ron's "Ecklin Variable Reluctance Generator" in their possession, but they don't appear to have a working PermMag motor, cause they apparently don't know how to wind and control it.
It seems Ron was the only one who actually understood how to get the PermMag motor running, so the plans are pretty much useless to anyone who does not understand how magnetic flux switching works and what that can do.
If I counted correctly, there's 3 stator pins+coils for every magnet. In order to get the motor to spin, you just need to pulse a coil at the edge of a magnet on the rotor, which will cause the magnetic flux to switch trough that coil, which will give you torque. So, I would say a coil needs to be wound around every stator pin, and only one out of 3 is pulsed at a time, while at the other two you can collect BEMF power....Comment
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Ok, that explains quite a lot.Originally posted by QEG View Post
So, this is the story as far as I am able to reconstruct:
*) During the 70's, Ron Brandt built an electric car, powered by a circuit now called the "Tesla Switch", a scaled down version of which was demonstrated in 1984 by John Bedini.
*) In the 1980s, Ron started working on magnetic motors based on "flux switching", based on Ecklin's theory. His "Ecklin Variable Reluctance Generator" was the first experimental device he build, with which he could achieve a COP of 1.05 (105%), which was unsatisfactory to him.
*) Ron designed a new type of motor, his Perm-Mag motor, whereby he placed magnets at the inside of a rotating cylinder, rotating around the stator. Because the magnets are supported by the cylinder, they can't "fly away" at high RPMs. He built (at least) two prototypes, of which he demonstrated the smaller one at the "Extraordinary Science Conference" in 1995. A video of his presentation has recently been made available by witts.
*) Ron kept on experimenting with these two Perm-Mag motors, rewinding them every now and then.
*) In January, 2010, Witts posts a video with a demonstration of Ron's variable reluctance prototype:
*) After Ron passed away in 2010, Timothy got hold of at least his variable reluctance prototype and possibly also the Perm-Mag motors. In the photos they released, there is no photograph showing a decently wired Perm-Mag stator, so apparently the only prototype still in a working condition was the variable reluctance prototype, which - according to Ron - could only do a COP of about 1.05.
*) In 2016, witts published a video, talking about Ron Brandt, which is said to have originally been aired on dec 31st, 2010:
*) Someone calling himself Herbie Smith claims to have purchased Ron's estate in February 2012:
Estate of Ron Brandt
*) Witss demonstrated Ron's machine, which was received quite skeptically by the OU community, suggesting that the exact same device of which Ron said could only do a COP of 1.05 does now not only power itself, but also a load of about 2 kW.I purchased the estate of Ron Brandt, the inventor of the Tesla switch, this past summer. Items include a number of his Tesla switches, perm-mag motors, diagrams, vidoes and audio tapes of experiements and various mock ups. Wondering what I should do with these items.
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No the 1983 Chrysler New Yorker was dismantled. Appears he was in the process of placing the large perm-mag motor in a car but didn't complete. The motor was on the bench when we purchased his estate.
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When the estate was purchased he had developed 3 perm-mag motors all in different sizes. The last one was a working model on a bench motor weighs about 100lbs. Each perm-mag motor has a switch with it. It looked like Ron was building a 4th motor identical to the 3rd motor but much bigger. The design on the 4th was exactly the same as the 3rd motor. the 3rd motor, biggest motor mounted to a work bench was actually hooked up to 2 different banks of battery's and his switch.
He had so much paperwork and diagrams starting back to his days in Oregon it's hard to organize it all. It appears he had worked with John Bedini in the late 70's and early 80's. I can't find any collaboration with anyone with the motors and switches he developed before his death, looks like he was working alone on these.
All of his audio tapes have been snapped I guess for security reasons. Need to take them to a professional have them and have rewound to listen. The way his shop was configured he was a man in hidding for sure, very strange.
*) James Robitaille attends training by Timothy Thrapp on Ron's machine and decides to open source what he knows, calling it the "QEG":
*) Witts confirms the device they claim to be a 40 kW self-running generator has been built by Ron Brandt:
40KW Generator / QEG Help From The Source (WITTS Ministries)
Our 40kw generator class for the above demonstrated by its builder in this video posted by WITTS several years ago, is still available today. It was invented by former WITTS spokesmen Ronald Brandt and Nikola Tesla.
From the picture from Ron with his Ecklin device, it is clear that the QEG is a replication of a device which did not perform to Ron's satisfaction.Comment
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In one of the photographs of Ron's workshop, I noted a printout of of a patent lying on his workbench. It wasn't very readable, but I could read the patent number, and the patent can be found at google:
There is a rather interesting overlap with the words used to describe Ron's converter in the article referred to earlier:Power supply including two tank circuits
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Abstract
The present invention provides a power supply for supplying electrical power to a load. The power supply includes first and second tank circuits having a common resonant frequency, and functions repetitively in two "major periods." In the first major period, the first tank is disconnected from powering the load and the second tank supplies power to the load while charging the first tank. In the second major period, the second tank is disconnected from powering the load, and the first tank supplies power to the load while charging the second tank.
In his 1995 presentation, Ron talked about the use of Mosfets and I think I've seen some remarks about a pending patent for Ron's controller.
Either way, this is the patent I saw on the photo.Comment
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The missing ingredient: a permanent magnet
In the paper referenced earlier, there's another interesting photo at page 15:
It's caption reads:
That's rather interesting, because the Ecklin patent shows a two-pole rotor and it is pretty clear Ron's device incorporates four stator poles. That already hints in the direction of utilizing magnetic flux switching, as is also being done in the MEG. Further, in the plans for Ron's Perm-Mag motor released by Witts, there is a directory about Joseph Newmann's motor and a directory about "their" "flux switching transformer", which IS the MEG and also refers to Naudin's Meg page:Ron Brandt holding a six-pole rotor of an Ecklin variable reluctance motor-generator. There's a two-pole rotor in the box.
I highly recommend watching this video by Lee Kenny, one of the inventors of the MEG, which shows you exactly how magnetic flux switching works and how they got to the current design of the MEG:Replications & Additional Technical Data:
The MEG - "Motionless Electromagnetic Generator" from Tom Bearden
Now take a look at what you can see from the actual rotor in the demonstration video by Witts:
Does this look anything like the rotor they are using in the QEG?
No, it looks like a disc on which something is mounted with a screw...
Now remember, this is Ron's experimental prototype, and in his presentation he says the Ecklin device was only theory and that he added something with which he has been able to make it work. And also remember that the knowledge he gained from experimenting with this device allowed him to design his Perm-Mag motor.
So, it seems clear that a permanent magnet needs to be part of the rotor in order to get a COP>1, which would suggest a rotor as in the Zimmerman patent as posted by vidbid:
However, with a rotor shaped like this, there is no way you can smoothly switch the magnetic flux of the permanent magnet from one set of poles to the next, so you would need a rotor specifically designed for flux switching, which brings me to some pictures posted by UfoPolitics in his thread a while ago:
Now let's compare this to Ron's stator design, which is supposed to have 49 gaps (so 50 "pins"). Like Ron, I didn't count them in this image, but there should be 49 gaps:
And this is how this looks like in the big prototype of his Perm-Mag motor:
High res: http://www.tuks.nl/img/Brandt_Stator_photo.jpg
If I counted correctly, in Ron's Perm-Mag motor there's three stator pins for every magnet, allowing the magnetic flux from every rotating magnet to find a path trough multiple pins and smoothly switch from one pin to the next. All one needs to do is to direct the magnetic flux trough a pin you'd like it to go trough, as explained by Bearden's colleages in their video. All it takes to do that, it to pulse a coil around the pin you'd like the flux to go trough next.
An important difference between Ron's design and UfoPolitics is that with Ron's motor, the magnets are rotating and no brushes are required, while with UfoPolitics version, it's the other way around.
The photograph suggests Ron, like UfoPolitics, wound his coils around three stator pins at a time (covering one magnet), but he re-wound his motors multiple times, so it's definitely not certain this way of winding is best.
What this means for getting the QEG working.
The challenge to get the QEG working is not to find some kind of "resonance". Yes, there are optimal frequencies to work with and probably you need to work around those frequencies in order to get a COP >> 1, but that's not the essential point.
What is essential with these kinds of motor/generators is the way the flux is being switched/directed from one set of poles to the next. From the video revealing the actual rotor and the fact Ron also had a 6-pole rotor for the device, it is clear that Ron experimented with the rotor and that the addition of a permanent magnet is what made the difference.
What he found out is that he could not run his first "Ecklin" device at high RPMs, because of centripetal forces acting on the magnets in the rotor, which is why he designed a rotor consisting of a cylinder, which prevents the magnets from being ripped of the rotor at high RPMs. Also, the magnets on his Perm-Mag rotor were slightly bent, so there is very little space between the rotor and the stator (magnets) during operation.
So, in order to get the QEG working with a COP>1, one needs to design a rotor for this device, which incorporates at least one permanent magnet, in such a way that the magnetic flux can be directed from one set of poles to the next smoothly.
The rotor should have a number of poles, shaped like in UfoPoltics' pictures, whereby the end of the pole is wide enough to partly cover two stator poles during the flux switching process. And as said, somewhere in the rotor, there should be a permanent magnet. For a two-pole (magnetic) rotor rotating in a 4-pole stator (as the QEG is currently designed), the end of the poles should be about 90 degrees and probably slightly more than 90 degrees.
Then, just at the moment the pole comes into the vicinity of the next stator pole, the coil aligned with the desired new flux path is to be pulsed in order to direct the flux pro-actively into the desired direction at the desired moment. This will magnetize the rotor pole into attraction mode at the weak pole where we want the torque to go to, while at the same time de-magnetizing the strong pole, which we don't want to be attracting anymore, since that would slow the rotor down.
When this is achieved, COP > 1 operation should be possible with the QEG design, although in order to obtain a really powerful motor/generator, one would have to follow Ron's Perm-Mag design and move the rotor magnets to the outside in order to be able to keep the magnets in place.
However, one should be able to get a long way by designing a laminated rotor in which a permanent magnet is enclosed.
Hope this makes sense.....Comment
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New thread
Made a new thread for the more broad discussion of Ron Brandt, the MEG, the QEQ and the "magnetic flux switching" principle:
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