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  • #61
    THE OTHER gOds

    Originally posted by Ben2503 View Post
    So Jaweh, Allah, the Lord are one and the same.
    Nowadays there are scientist that claim that energy and god are the same.
    So what is there left to fight about
    Here is the process known to the entire world by example and can not be refuted.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF9kPzFvwr8

    All external force. Not to say that some followers don't have their heads in the sand about it's core approach, they are just do gooders who don't read the fine print. I hope they don't get trampled by their leaders.

    Mike

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Ben2503 View Post
      How on earth did you get from religions to psychopaths?
      U asked for it.

      Originally posted by Ben2503 View Post
      So what is there left to fight about
      How To Think Like a Psychopath | Psychology Today


      Al

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      • #63
        Mocking THE LAW or Not?

        Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbLzhwvVR_M


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3HiI6C78MI

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        • #64
          Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
          The first thing a good high level satanist does is to find out what the order of GOD is and reverse it, so if God says a Man should be paied up with a woman then the Satanist seeks out forms of sex magick that violates THE LAW.

          These Elite TELL us that they worship Lucifer. THEY TELL YOU THIS. They don't hide it. The masonic order emanates from Bohemian Grove near San Francisco where every year these Elite so called men go to bed with each other to gain power in the spirit.

          I know what it sounds like and you are right, NUTS!!!

          These Elite bring in other men from one of the largest gay cities in the world for servicing themselves in honor to their gOd Looie (Lucid) and most of all to directly flip of the ALMIGHTY to HIS FACE.

          That is the whole point. Branch to the nose or stick it.

          If a high level devil worshiper is going to gain wealth and position he must do whatever it takes to get it.

          Drinking huge amounts of alcohol to imbalance the LAWS of the human Body and mind to keep proper order in the blood.

          Whatever GOD says, do the opposite and you will have power.

          God says don't have sex with your brothers and sisters so a good follower of the 33rd will seek to engage them.

          God says men should not lay with other men so a good follower will find a boy friend and so on.

          Just look for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12_PUYtkZBc


          If folks can't find God then find these guys first then you will see.

          Mike
          You are obviously aware of Satanism, some practice it as a religion but many others don't, they just consider it a life choice and are aware of no religious connotations. Either way you find a disproportionate amount of these people in positions of power and authority.

          The origins of this practice, come from the same place as all the religions, that is Egypt, Babylon an Suma etc. This is shown clearly in the bible. As I said before, religious debate is a distraction, religion exists but you are right in this commonality of religion that is known as Satanism (it goes under many other names too). There are also many other non "Satanic" religious practices stemming from this period.

          Many so called Christians, Muslims, Jews etc worship Satanism, don't even know they are doing it, and do it in innocence. That might be hard for you to accept, but believe me its true. The way the Bible was constructed was a deliberate attempt to cause this. This particular aspect of religion is relevant, but requires little debate because once it has been pointed out to you, it is very obvious.

          Back to the point, a disproportionate amount of our representatives/leaders/rulers and the legal system, are involved in this and are aware of it to some degree. Again I have to ask the question, is this another way in which our leaders are chosen for us? Yes we get a vote, but when the choice is one Satanist paedophile or another, there is no choice. An excellent way of bringing this system down is not to vote, It only encourages them

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          • #65
            First example of an insurmountable human stupidity:
            Dawkins straightened out

            Second example of the same kind:


            BEN STEIN'S heroic and, at times, shocking journey confronting the world's top scientists, educators and philosophers, regarding the persecution of the many by an elite few: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c63awtAyHdU

            The ultimate exposure of one of the greatest deception of modern times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZrxTH-UUdI#t=52m2s

            Do you remember the story of falsifying Michelson-Morley experiment by Einstein and his colleges, do you remember how we came up with the fraud results of Dayton Miller's 200 000 precious interferometer observations, do you remember the deception regarding the true meaning of other interferometer experiments and their real results and the true meanings of scientifically correct interpretations of these results?

            Here is one another example of exposing the deception of dishonest scientists and their falsified wikipedia:

            Rethinking Eratosthenes.

            One can reconstruct the origin of these numbers by doing a little geometry, starting from a flat earth hypothesis. Remember the experiment of Eratosthenes, who measured the angular elevation of the sun at two latitudes in Egypt? He assumed that the sun was effectively infinitely far away (or at least so far compared to the earth's size that the actual distance didn't matter). Then he calculated the diameter of the earth using a second assumption: that the earth was spherical.

            But suppose you abandon Eratosthenes' two assumptions, and adopt instead the assumption that the earth is flat. Then, triangulation from the same data gives the distance to the sun: 3000 miles! See how a simple change of assumptions can drastically alter the entire cosmos? However, the round earth was more than an arbitary assumption for Eratosthenes, for he and his contemporaries, had other very good reasons for knowing the earth was round. [Textbooks sometimes mislead by suggesting that his experiment was designed to prove the earth was a sphere. It was not, it was only intended to measure the size of the sphere.]



            THE MADNESS OF A LOST SOCIETY

            Originally Posted by mbrownn:
            The origins of this practice, come from the same place as all the religions, that is Egypt, Babylon an Suma etc.
            Last edited by cikljamas; 04-29-2014, 01:38 PM.
            "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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            • #66
              Did psychopaths pay for scribing of the Bible and Koran manuscripts that favor pederasts and pedophiles, see the gold ring?
              The reason why gold is forbidden for men - islamqa.info

              So, is BO mocking THE LAW?


              Al
              Last edited by aljhoa; 04-29-2014, 03:04 PM.

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              • #67
                The symptom
                Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
                The distraction

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                • #68
                  mbrown

                  You said "I don't think you understand that I am not attacking belief systems. I am attacking what we can all agree is wrong, and trying to focus you on finding solutions."

                  A NOBLE indeavor, but IMHO, ultimtely futile; In order to 'find' a solution, first one has to recognise verbalise the problem. I THINK the problem is with the NATURE of MAN, as in 'human nature', and secondly started with the decision to stop being hunter/gatherers; the decision to 'civilise', and all the problems stem from that decision.

                  I've LOOKED at these 'problems', and various proposed 'solutions'; and reached the conclusion there are no REAL solutions, only changes which don't really (in most cases) 'solve' the problem they are initiated to solve, and invariably create many 'new' problems.

                  Anyway, one more book I reccomend; :The Social Animal, by David Brooks. I THINK you will enjoy it. Jim

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                  • #69
                    @ mbrownn, @ dutchdivco,

                    You've brought up our attention to the crucial part of this thread: WHAT PRACTICAL OR THEORETICAL (OR BOTH) SOLUTION IS GOING TO SOLVE OUR CIVILIZATION DECAY PROBLEM, WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE LOOKING FOR???

                    Million dollar question, isn't it?

                    We can put forward theoretical studies like this: The Law of Civilization and Decay is a book written by Brooks Adams in 1895. His intention was to prove that the rise and fall of civilizations follows a definite cycle of centralization and decay. Adams outlined this theory by sketching the patterns of major periods in western history, concentrating on economic and social factors.

                    We can put our hope in gaining mutual respect and reconciliation between antagonized members of different religion denominations or hostile nations by an appeals like this one: Truth (about all religions) is a pre-condition for harmony - See more at: EDITOR'S CHOICE: Truth (about all religions) is a pre-condition for harmony

                    We can demonstrate our care for our mother Earth trying to catch the attention of a man crying out like this:

                    But, as i already wrote in my first post in this thread:
                    A small mistake in the beginning is a big one in the end since the least initial deviation from the truth is multiplied later a thousandfold...

                    Not admitting the FIRST truth is nothing else but refusing to admit God as a Creator of heaven and earth and human beings. If we are unable and unwilling to begin from The Beginning (The Beginner) telling (admitting) his supremacy over all that is created (came into being from nothing) if we continually reject The Truth of all truths then we should not be surprised if we eventually deadly fail in every possible way.

                    We can't establish healthy societies on ultimate lies and deceptions, consequences of perverting the truth and worshiping the lie, are going to be every day worse and worse, until we finally physically annihilate each other.

                    The bottom line is THAT WE CAN NOT HELP OURSELF RELYING JUST ON OUR OWN ABILITIES AND HUMAN "WISDOM" WHICH IS IN GOD'S EYES INSANITY. FORGETTING AND NEGLECTING THE FACT THAT OUR EXISTENCE AND GOODNESS ARE ESSENTIALLY DEPENDANT ON HOW WE CONDUCT OUR DIVINE NATURE AND TRULY (OR NOT) RESPECT HIM WHO CREATED US IN HIS IMAGE (BY OBEYING HIS COMMANDMENTS), WE ARE DOOMED TO PERISH AND DIE OFF! IT WON'T BE FIRST EXAMPLE OF THAT KIND, IT HAPPENED BEFORE, MANY TIMES...

                    To be or not to be, that is the question!

                    The truth will free us, the lie will destroy us!

                    It is our choice!

                    Building new correctional buildings is not the solution, the only effectual solution is teaching new generations what is right and what is wrong (from the very beginning), but you can not teach them that unless you are able to explain them (in the same time) (that explanation has to be ultimately CONVINCING and AUTHENTIC!!!) why is something right, and why is something wrong. Throwing out GOD from this equation you will not be able accomplish this mission! Period.
                    Last edited by cikljamas; 04-29-2014, 09:03 PM.
                    "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                    • #70
                      What I Think?

                      Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                      Did psychopaths pay for scribing of the Bible and Koran manuscripts that favor pederasts and pedophiles, see the gold ring?
                      The reason why gold is forbidden for men - islamqa.info

                      So, is BO mocking THE LAW?


                      Al
                      If I told what I think you would want to run and hide. A storm is brewing and all I can say is "BE Ready"

                      It doesn't matter what relig a person has all will be tested one way or another, either in peace or war.

                      Of course war comes in many forms.

                      When the stuff hits the fan it is and will always be the same, a persons true self comes out, chuck all of the blabbering words, they are one thing and what people "DO" is another.

                      The noise of the brute is in the land and this beast nature is inbred.

                      When values are tested rewards are doled out. Pay day always comes and THE SELF EXISTENT ONE sitting high and looking low will be the JUDGE.

                      I hope you fair well. I do not wish bad on any person, I am a lover of Law and Order. With out this RULE OF LAW as specified by THE SELF EXISTENT ONE, all our societies around the world can ever have is what we see now.

                      However as I had stated previously that this entire world systems was planned to be permitted and that everyone is here to be tested for what they do, not what they say they think THE RULE OF LAW should be.

                      The RULE OF LAW as presented by AC is the only true and good RULE of LAW
                      that reaches out to his fellow mates in kindness without partiality. In other ways of presenting this idea so many are selective of who they favor and who they decide to reject/bully that is hate.

                      THE RULE OF LAW does not change and is impartial giving everyone a fair shake. Under this type of RULE the common people rejoice and the evil men go underground to plot.

                      We have the opposite today with the common folks morning from the oppression of rich evil men who hate GOD and HIS RULE OF LAW.

                      Thank you for asking.

                      One more thing that needs to be said.

                      ALL MEN are the same by nature and when THE LAW GIVER picked the JEWISH race of men to use as a tool HE pointed out that they were not chosen because they were any more special than any other.

                      The fact is the Jewish race is and was just as wicked as all men by nature and this has always manifested by what men do. Not the flow of lies that pours from their mouths.

                      It is simply a choice the THE LAW GIVER made to magnify HIS power.

                      SO it doesn't matter who or what and never did because all that we see is a controlled test with the intents of men's hearts being weighted in the balance.

                      So the Law Giver made a choice to use a small host of sinning men to glorify HIS name with most of them rejecting it just as much as the other nations all have.

                      That is the way it is suppose to be. This is the test in motion now.

                      Will I chose sides based on "everybody is doing it" "go along to get along" or will I "DO" different than the majority.

                      There are only two nations throughout history who have claimed the name of this unknown SELF EXISTENT ONE that the JEWS worship.

                      These two nations are

                      (1) THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

                      (2) THE OLD JEWISH CULTURE

                      The rest of the nations tell you who they worship and they all have always had MANY gOds. The ancient nations before this UNKNOWN GOD had revealed HIMSELF worshiped many gOds with that Gods "rule of law"

                      Each nation with it's respective gOds and that "Rule of Law"

                      (1) Hindu

                      (2) Buddhist

                      (3) Islam

                      (4) Heathens rejecting all forms

                      Again I say that THE RULE OF LAW as we desire hear in America was originally based on righteous principles in righteous men who were impartial willing to live and let live.

                      This pure RULE OF LAW does not murder those who reject IT'S authority today. Grace and mercy to all is the basis for true love.

                      Love and hate are not one in the same thing, they are opposites.

                      As ridiculous as that statement may sound many cultures teach an interchangeable mixture of the two based on their ideology. Or it is okay to kill to destroy evil based on their values.

                      Only two Nations throughout time have ever claimed to serve and worship THE GREAT "I AM" the one.

                      The JEWS and ISLAM both claim to be brothers and that each one is first or that each group claims lead position as each groups RULE OF LAW is the right way.

                      You will be the judge and chose what is right. This is part of the test.

                      The USA is the riches nation in the world because they use to follow these RULES OF LAW in their daily lives. The majority.

                      They Prayed openly to this SELF EXISTENT ONE up until the 1960's.

                      Since then HE has been driven out little by little.

                      The phrase you see on the dollar "IN GOD WE TRUST" now refers to the money as god. The way this can be proven is that we as Americas have great wealth while others are suffering we care little and continue on our quest for more. This LOVE FOR MONEY is dominate and therefore MONEY IS GOD to the American people.

                      The Americans now send mama and dad off to work for that money and the children are raised by those who don't care for anything other than Money.

                      No father for the boys at home and thus no men produced.

                      We have chosen wealth over 'THE RULE OF LAW" principles. Therefore our gOd is money now and from that point on 'THE RULE OF LAW can be anything. We are doing it anyway way we want and calling it Holy Principles also known as THE RULE OF LAW.

                      Mike
                      Last edited by BroMikey; 04-29-2014, 10:56 PM.

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                      • #71
                        Apologies to AC in regard to the original topic but it now seems appropriate:

                        Originally posted by Walter Russell, The Divine Iliad
                        1. "Know thou, My messenger, that I, thy God, ruleth o'er all things of My imagining.
                        2. "For I am absolute, and all things which extendeth from the Light of My imagining are absolute.
                        3. "Likewise I am perfection, as I am Truth. All things which extendeth from me are perfect. They are Truth.
                        4. "That which seems imperfect to man's eyes is but seeming, for he sees not all. Could he see all he would see all perfect.
                        5. "As the unfinished picture seems imperfect in man's eyes, for it is not the whole, it is perfect could he see the whole.
                        6. "Likewise each brush-stroke of a concept is perfect for that stage of its unfolding.
                        7. "Likewise each stage of man's unfolding is a perfect part of the whole idea of man's unfolding. There is no evil in it. Nor is there imperfection anywhere. There is but the One Whole of everything in Me, and all is perfect, all is absolute.
                        8. "For My universe is but the forever unfolding-refolding of My One Whole Idea. As My whole Idea is perfect so, also, is each part perfect.
                        9. "For I watch o'er all borning things until their rebirth in Me. At their birth in Me their perfection is My perfection. Likewise, at their rebirth in Me their perfection is their inheritance from Me.
                        10. "At each stage of their unfolding and refolding they are absolute and perfect, for I am absolute and perfect.
                        11. "That which man lacks in his knowing is still his in Me, awaiting his desire for knowing. When he desires to know he may know.
                        12. "Likewise that which man seemingly unbalances in his actions is balanced in Me awaiting his balancing. And that day will come, for man cannot evade that day.
                        13. Unbalance and imperfection exist not, therefore, save in man's timed seeing. For him who knows My Light there is no timed seeing.
                        14. Desire of man, or tree, or earth, or giant nebula is balanced in Me always. Unbalance exists not in My house. Imperfection and untruth, likewise, exist not in My house. Likewise error and evil exist not in My house.
                        15. "These are but each end of man's balance pole upon which he walks waveringly through his cycles, knowing not that I am there measuring his unbalancing to void it at the other end with equal opposite measure.
                        16. "For I balance all things as they occur by voiding all things as they occur, for, hark thou Me as I again say that all My universe is but My imaginings and I am not my imaginings.
                        17. "Thus do I watch o'er earths which desire extensions of their paths to outer reaches farther from their mother suns. Two eyes have I to watch o'er each of these, two eyes to balance each with each, and two to balance each with every other thing that is.
                        18. "And, likewise, when earths give birth to moons, two eyes have I for these two also, two eyes to measure paths for them which balance with paths of all things else in the universe.
                        19. "And, likewise, when earth mothers men, and other extensions of My life, to pulse My pulse of life and live in Me, two eyes have I for each countless part of them, to watch o'er each separate part, to keep it one with all My universe.
                        20. "Not the veriest microcosm in all My electric body which is not thus double poled, within and without, by My two watchful eyes.
                        21. "No path of man, or bird, or creeping thing, lies unmeasured and unwatched by Me.
                        22. "All paths of all things in My radial body are but one path, for, of a verity I say, that slightest move of creeping thing on this small earth is recorded upon all paths of all things, e'en to giant star beyond man's seeing.
                        23. "Thus do I control all desires of all things which manifest My One Idea. Likewise I see to it that all their happenings which man calls bad, or good, or error, or evil, add up to the zero of balance in Me. For there is naught in My universe which can be added to, or subtracted from, which is more or less than the zero from which all things spring into their seeming being, to end where they began for re-beginning.
                        24. "Hear Me again say there are not two halves of a divided one in all the pairs of opposites of My universe. There are but a seeming two, and each one of these is of the other one while seeming to be two. And each becomes the other one sequentially to maintain that seeming.
                        25. "There is naught upon the earth which comes not from the heavens. Likewise there is naught within the heavens which comes not from their centering earths and suns.
                        26. "Each quickens the other with the giving of each to each equally for each other's equal re-giving.
                        27. "Again I say that equal interchange is My will. He who desires aught in My Cosmos must obey My will. He who so obeys My will commands My will to fruition of his desire."
                        Originally posted by Walter Russell, The Divine Iliad
                        1. "I am the Knower of the Known.
                        2. "I am the sexless Knower of the Known. In Me is the Consciousness of All Knowing and that is My power.
                        3. "In Me, the unconditioned One, is the Whole. There are no parts, nor are there beginnings, nor endings in Me, the One conscious Whole.
                        4. "I am the dual Thinker of unfolding parts of the Known, the Imaginer of imaged forms which emerge from My knowing, through My thinking, to manifest My knowing.
                        5. "My dual thinking divides My knowing Light into pairs of sex-divided mirrors of the two opposed lights of My thinking. These electric mirrors of divided light reflect My Light and Life in them for manifesting My knowing and the One Life of My Being. Forever and forever they interchange the dual reflected lights of My thinking for manifesting the continuance of My thinking, yet they are not My Light, nor are they My Life.
                        6. "Nor are they My Being. I, My all-conscious Being alone live, and I alone think.
                        7. "Again I say, all thinking is My thinking. Also I say, when man thinks at all he thinks with Me as One, imagines with Me as One, and builds his images with Me as One.
                        8. "And when man is inspired by exalted thinking know thou that it is I in him who am thinking as One with him.
                        9. "For I am the Source of ecstasy and inspiration in man. Behold in Me the Silent Voice which man may hear who hath inner ears to hear. And I am the Light which man may see who hath eyes of the Spirit to see.
                        10. "For I say that in-so-far as man knows the ecstasy of inspiration in him he hears My Voice and sees My Light in him. He then knows the mighty rhythms of My balanced thinking and thinks with Me."
                        Originally posted by Walter Russell, The Divine Iliad
                        ... And so up to this time we have been floundering around in these questions of life and death, emotions, love, hate greed, and selfishness. We have been accumulating things, material things to possess, things of earth which must be returned to earth. Our ideas of wealth and power have been based upon what our bodies needed. For that reason we became selfish, greedy, cruel and brutal. Humans become inhuman--beastly--by killing, robbing and enslaving other humans.

                        The more religiously devout we became, the more inhuman we became---even to the point of devoutly asking God to aid us in our inhumanity by helping us to kill. Also, up to this time our search for the One God has bred many religions based upon false concepts of God. God is our Father. We are His beloved children, Light extensions of His very Self. God is love, yet practically all religions conceive Him as an angry, wrathful god, every ready to inflict terrible punishment upon his sinful, wicked children, a god of sorrows, capable of suffering deep anguish because of our transgressions.

                        Instead of searching for a God of Light within ourselves, we have searched outside of ourselves for a god of form. We have demanded an extraneous god which our senses could visualize. For that reason we have made thousands upon thousands of gods of some imaged form carved in wood or stone, and worshipped those forms as idols.

                        Messengers of God, such as Jesus, have appeared at times to tell us the true nature of God. We invariably crucified them, then worshipped them after realizing their divinity.

                        Religion of today is largely idolatrous for the reason that our primacy demands a god who appeals to the senses. For that reason millions of men worship god through Buddha, Jesus, Mohammed and other messengers, whose form they can sense as visualized images of God.
                        Those who do so have not yet unfolded sufficiently to know God Himself as the I AM of all the universe. Those many millions would consider one to be a blasphemer who claimed that he walks and talks directly with God in close communion.

                        Yet mankind has unfolded to that state of Consciousness where there are many who have found the kingdom of heaven within themselves to such an extent that they no longer ask intercession from men of earth for the privilege of contacting God through them.

                        The mass of mankind still holds tight to the traditions of pagan and heathen superstitions and beliefs. These believe that ordained priests and ministers can save their Souls from sin through baptismal rites and ceremonies. They believe this to such an extent that if a child dies without being baptized, it will have no Soul, or that it will be cast into everlasting fires for having been born in sin. Such horrible beliefs indicate that barbaric state of the mass of today's humanity.

                        "Hell is paved with the skulls of innocent babes" is a common expression which evidences this horrible belief of many religions of today which still keep alive the blood beliefs and practices of pagan ancestors. The enlightened ones who have come to know God in them are fully aware that no human has any power whatsoever to remit the sins of another, or to save or condemn his Soul, or to intercede for him with God. Man cannot ordain man with power to do anything which a man cannot do for himself by direct unity with God, for God centers every man, awaiting his awareness of that fact.
                        Originally posted by Walter Russell, The Divine Iliad
                        "Man is Light when he knows that he is Light. Through My Light alone can man know Me.

                        "To know Me is to be Me.

                        "When man knows the Light which binds all things to Me , he is then ONE with Me.

                        "Behold in Me the One, inseparable.

                        "Two things there are not in MY universe. There is but one.

                        "Everything that is, is of every other thing that is. Nothing is of itself alone. All things are indissolubly united.

                        "This is a universe of seeming: an imaged universe of thinking: an action universe of desiring. That which Mind desires will appear in the image of that desire.

                        "Desire ye what ye will and, behold, it standeth before thee. Throughout the aeons it has been thine without thy knowing, e'en though thou hast but just asked for it.

                        "Sit ye not and ask, acting not, for thy desire will not come thy way to thee unaided by thy strong arms.

                        "Behold, I am within all things centering them; and I am without all things controlling them, but I am not those things which I center in them and control in space surrounding them.

                        "I am the center of My universe of Me. Everywhere I am is the center of all things, and I am everywhere."
                        ALAN WATTS; Conversation With Myself (Video) - YouTube
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                        "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

                        "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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                        • #72
                          I don't think the problem is man, even CEO's of big corporations have shown great good in them. The problem lies in our acquiescence to a small number of essentially "evil" people. Part of this is caused by lack of education, or the destruction of education and part being caused by lack of freedom/opportunity.

                          Corner a rat and it will fight.

                          We need to educate, We need to demonstrate that it does not need to be this way and we need to stop acquiescing. Thankfully this is happening albeit slowly.

                          God isn't the issue here. I think I have shown a few ways to contribute to changing the system without stepping on any religious toes of any denomination. For the Americans here, you had a flawed system, but it was one of the best ever created, don't give up on it. For the rest of us, We have to do our part to help the Americans save what they had.

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                          • #73
                            Man Has the Power

                            Originally posted by mbrownn View Post
                            I don't think the problem is man, even CEO's of big corporations have shown great good in them. The problem lies in our acquiescence to a small number of essentially "evil" people. Part of this is caused by lack of education, or the destruction of education and part being caused by lack of freedom/opportunity.

                            Corner a rat and it will fight.

                            We need to educate, We need to demonstrate that it does not need to be this way and we need to stop acquiescing. Thankfully this is happening albeit slowly.

                            God isn't the issue here. I think I have shown a few ways to contribute to changing the system without stepping on any religious toes of any denomination. For the Americans here, you had a flawed system, but it was one of the best ever created, don't give up on it. For the rest of us, We have to do our part to help the Americans save what they had.
                            Hey Brown

                            What you are saying is that man has all of the answers. Sorry guy this is not the correct response.

                            Now what do i mean by this? Do you even listen to me a little? Do even care what I am saying?

                            I will be kind and repeat. Man is sheet by nature and is spiraling into a further heap of his own whale butter. Without hope, without help he is doomed AND God has designed it this way so man can not save himself.

                            Now did you get what I am saying?

                            You are saying man can save himself and has the power to fix everything.

                            And I guess in a sense you are right that from your perspective you seeing everyone like yourself, just an honest guy who wants good things for everyone.

                            This is all well and good but to be so disconnected from what is actually happening only leaves us in a delusional world where man keeps getting better as he is reborn throughout his infinite lifetimes.

                            I am not talking Karma here, I am speaking from my viewpoint growing up in the Detroit metro area. It is car town. It is full of people and like an ever growing puss wart ready to explode it's filthy sickness all over everyone in it's path.

                            Am I getting thru 2 U??

                            Mankind is not going to save the world, because this mankind alive today in the streets has never known what is right nor will they ever desire anything else besides what their own bellies dictate to them.

                            If the world was full of chaps with great moral standards such as yourself then I would say maybe. But I live in the real world sir.

                            I had to duck so I did not get shot because the cocaine deal going down at the nearby gas station went sour year after year. I woke up with seeing bullets in the siding of the houses down the street the night before and the cops are afraid.

                            Nice subdivisions all boarded up.

                            Hello!!! Hello!!! Are we on the same page????

                            Man is full of darkness, the collective of the entire human race and therefore is unable to help himself as a collective.

                            This is a fairytale world that people live in where they think they can change other people. They can not change themselves and still they don't get it.

                            When we can change for the better I say this is so wonderful it is beyond words because the RULE OF LAW is functioning to bring the fullness of life to YOU SIR. TO YOU!!!

                            This is worth living for. However you can not change others, you can have a positive effect on them but if they hate that goodness you project you will find your enemies.

                            Just try to change people even a little and they will hate you in the process.

                            Give God something to do and stop trying to plot the success of mankind without any help. Men need help. The first thing God did was create a helper for man and he called her woman.

                            Her job is not to out do him but to become one with her man and to hold up the head. Not remove his head or authority this is THE RULE OF LAW in it's purest form.

                            Is that what we see today, is it? No, what we see today is an ever growing shift away from THE RULE OF LAW toward roll reversals in the home and a war for who is the biggest and in charge.

                            And this has been getting worse for 100's if not 1000's of years and you say man will fix himself?

                            Good God in heaven where is reason?

                            I know that from experience most people look at the world through their own eyes thinking that other are like they are in many respects.

                            That is their big mistake.

                            If you follow the rule of law making you able to show and receive kindness among your friends, I salute you and say God Speed.

                            Trust me all of the other humans are not all like that, sorry.

                            I have walked down my street for 30 years only to see an ever growing number of satanist traffic the area. 2,3 girls following one man as he steps into the party store to get a quart of beer that the girls are known to drink second hand directly from the man as he urinates.

                            This is common knowledge with these groups and their rule of law. Scabs all over their young bodies as their immune system fails.

                            Street holes that you can't even walk past without vomiting. And she can save herself?

                            And you want me to believe what? That mankind can save himself?

                            When was the last time you ventured into the real world?

                            Mike
                            Last edited by BroMikey; 04-30-2014, 08:39 AM.

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                            • #74
                              "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"

                              Mike, good job, very good job indeed! And i think i am a preacher...

                              Guy who said "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist", is well known also as Devil worshiper, his name was Charles Baudelaire and he had written famous poems (sonnets) to Satan. But, eventually it seems he have figured out the true meaning and final purpose of Satan's major deception and ultimate malevolence toward human being. After this revelation came upon the midnight clear to Baudelaire baffled soul he testified deadly error (of his wrong reckonings and fruitless hopes) by stating that the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was...

                              The modern secular world (the majority of it anyway) seems to believe that evil is merely the absence of good or the absence of light. Not so. Evil is an active force in it's own right, with an active persona behind it.

                              We could interpret Baudelaire's famous statement in different ways:

                              First example (atheistic one): The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled | Effing the Ineffable

                              Second example (atheistic one): Does it not make sense then to say that ""The Greatest Trick the Devil Ever Pulled was RELIGION"

                              The right one interpretation is this: When fish is hooked (convinced that Devil doesn't exist) then the next step is to pull fish out of the water (strip man's spiritual essence off) by inhaling the black smoke of all kind of suspicions, especially the deadliest one (disbelief in God). Black smoke of suspicion means that once we start to disbelief in existence of Devil we never stop to suspect God's existence (and his benevolence) too!!!

                              A small mistake in the beginning is a big one in the end since the least initial deviation from the truth is multiplied later a thousandfold...


                              "A murderer from the beginning, . . . a liar and the father of lies," Satan is "the deceiver of the whole world." ... We know that we are of God, and the whole world is in the power of the evil one.

                              Quote from St. Pope John Paul II:

                              Begone, Satan!' The Messiah's resolute attitude is an example and an invitation for us to follow him with courageous determination. The devil, the "prince of this world", even today continues his deceitful action. Every man, over and above his own concupiscence and the bad example of others, is also tempted by the devil, and the more so when he is least aware of it..."He who does not believe in the devil does not believe in the Gospel."

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                              Quotes from demonsAnd if you do not believe in evil, how can you believe in or ever know what good is?Father Malachi MartinFather Gabrielle Amorth, Roman Catholic Priest, Chief Exorcist of the Vatican, Rome, Italy)

                              "The Devil fears the Virgin Mary more, not only than men and angels but, in a certain sense, than God himself. It is not that the wrath, the power and the hatred of God are not infinitely greater than those of the Blessed Virgin, since Mary's perfections are limited: it is because, in the first place, Satan, being proud, suffers infinitely more from being overcome and punished by the little, humble servant of God, her humility humiliating him more than the divine power; and secondly, because God has given Mary such great power over devils that, as they have often been obliged to admit, in spite of themselves, through the mouths of possessed persons, they are more afraid of one of her sighs of grief over some poor soul, than of the prayers of the saints, and more daunted by a single threat from her than by all their other torments" (Resource - Evidence of Satan in the Modern World by Monsignor Leon Cristiani, Roman Catholic Priest)


                              Homage to Mary from a demon

                              O Mary, Mary, masterpiece of God's handiwork: God has made nothing greater than thee! Incomparable creation, admiration of all the heavenly host! All honour thee, all obey thee and acknowledge thee as Mother of the Creator. Thou art raised above the angels and above all the court of Heaven: thou art seated near to God, thou art the Temple of Deity, thou hast carried in thy womb all that is strongest and greatest and most powerful and most loving! ...

                              Mary, thou hast received in thy virginal womb Him who created thee, thou art Virgin and Mother, there is none to be compared with thee. After God, thou art the greatest; thou art the Strong Woman, there is more glory to God in thee than in the heavenly host ...

                              In thee there has been no stain, Anathema be they that deny that thou art Virgin and Mother; thou wast conceived without sin, thou art immaculate! ...

                              I praise thee, O Mary, but all my praises of thee ascend unto God, the author of all good. After the Sacred Heart of Jesus there is no heart to be compared with thine. O loving heart! O tender heart! Thou wilt not abandon even the most thankless or the most guilty of mortals. Thy heart is overflowing with kindness, even to the unfortunate who merit chastisement alone, yet thou obtainest for them grace and compassion: the worst of sinners is converted by thee! ...

                              O, if all the inhabitants of the earth should know thee! If they could understand thy tenderness, thy power, thy goodness, not one of them should perish! All that turn to thee in trust and hope and pray to thee continually, whatever their state may be, thou wilt save them, thou wilt bless them eternally.....

                              I am compelled to humble myself at thy feet and implore thy pardon for all the outrages I inflict on the one I possess! ...

                              I confess today, one of the most solemn feasts of the whole year, that thy divine Son compels me to say that it is the most solemn of all the feasts.


                              (The little parish of Ars was to celebrate the feast of the Immaculate Conception. It is relevant to note here that the dogma of the Immaculate Conception had not yet been proclaimed and was not, in fact, promulgated until a year after this homage was recorded. Then an entirely unexpected event occurred. Antoine Guy (the possessed) was found kneeling at the foot of a statue of the Virgin, his arms extended in the form of a cross, and his eyes filled with tears. From his lips there streamed forth this solemn declaration which could only have come from the infernal spirit that possessed him, since Antoine Gay himself had not the theological background to pronounce such an impressive discourse.)
                              "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                              • #75
                                Don't put words in my mouth, I never said man has all the answers, far from it.

                                I hope I am wrong, but you seem too distracted in your belief system to help. Talking and expressing our opinions on a forum is one thing, but we need to do it in the real world.

                                Give a man a fish and he will feed his family for a day. We need to do more than help in small ways, we need to help in ways that will make a difference. Become active in this.

                                It is not delusional to take part in actions such as I have suggested as they do, if sported by sufficient numbers, have profound effects, proven.

                                You paint everyone with the same brush when stating "Man is full of darkness" clearly this is not true, show me a newborn child that is full of darkness. Even people that have done some questionable things can be educated and for the most part changed, even your belief system tells you this. To believe one thing and say the opposite is contradictory.

                                I could spend time de-constructing your argument line by line but I have better things to do, such as practising what I preach. You should try it, and I am not being facetious when I say this.

                                I too have belief systems but I choose not to make it a part of the discussion other than I believe you have good intentions. Try not to be negative about humanity, yes I know we are far from perfect, but we are all capable of being the best person we can.

                                You are making this thread about your belief system and not finding answers. If my words have fallen on stony ground, so be it, and I will move on to those who chose to make a difference. "you can lead a horse to water..."

                                I do appreciate that your heart is in the right place and I am not saying these things to antagonise you. I know that the words of mine that you have read cannot be unlearned, and maybe in the future, with influence from elsewhere, you will act upon them.

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