The Great Global Warming Swindle

[dmonarch]

Convenient satelite loss

Just saw on the news how a satelite recently launched failed to make it into orbit due to what they call a minor error, "the rocket was too heavy". I mean gee it could happen to anyone. It would seem to me to be a nice way of conveniently loosing the one instrument which could put a different spin on global warming. The satelite was designed to map green house gases. It would seem to me they were worried about the information it would produce.

[Peter Lindemann]

International Conference on Climate Change

Hi Guys,

Here is an announcement for an up-coming Conference on Climate Change. This one is NOT sponsored by the UN, multi-national corporations or the media. Its main title is: GLOBAL WARMING: WAS IT EVER REALLY A CRISIS?

The Heartland Institute - Welcome to the 2009 International Conference on Climate Change

It will be interesting to see what is reported at this gathering.

Peter

[jibbguy]

Lol it's been a challenge not to comment here without repeating myself

Please anyone, don't take offense at the below section; it's just some constructive sarcasm to help look at this problem from another angle...
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Here's a convenient list of just some of the member's of the "cabal" of "corrupt" and/or "inept" scientists (lol, there's more PhD's listed here than there are lame excuses from the energy cartels for arbitrarily raising the gasoline, Diesel, and natural gas prices whenever the moon changes Phase )

http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/documents/global_warming/Scientist_Economists_Call_to_Action_fnl.pdf

I wonder why these con-artists listed there calling themselves "Scientists" just don't hide their heads in shame for perpetrating such a criminal world-wide swindle and conspiracy on us all; for taking the NWO's money to lie?!

But there they are, proudly displaying their names for all to see! Such audacity, such brazen disregard for decency! We should all get out the pitchforks and torches and give them a little visit tonight, and teach them some manners!

It's a good thing we here are so much smarter than they all are

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Seriously tho..

Actually, i recognize some of those names as past Customers of mine when i was in the instrumentation business, i've visited some of their labs. They were for the most part as i recall studious, courteous, bespectacled "geeks"; and i have a very hard time imagining them as stupid, corrupt, or even being politically motivated enough to lie about their chosen fields of study.

... So maybe they actually believed what was said there?

Again, we can certainly disagree with them. But when some do, why are these scientists then automatically considered to be shills, liars, fools, or even criminals? Could it be that they looked at the same data as others, and just came to different conclusions? ... Or is that concept too damaging to our egos: To accept that there are other "truths" (more accurately, other facets of the Truth) than our own..? Other valuable opinions? Other shades than Black and White?

This of course goes deeper than this particular subject; and everywhere in the Free Energy genre and the 'web in general we see these same attitudes every day (especially on that other forum, lol): This guy's a "shill for the NWO" because he attacked my idea... That person is a "troll" and "disrupter" because she continually brings-up negative aspects of my favorite technology. This group is a CIA front; because they promote differing ideas than "ours".

Although there may in fact be shills, trolls, even CIA fronts around the 'web... Lol, i can assure you their number is far smaller than what is suggested in these kinds of posts

It's time that we all agree to disagree without seeing it as an attack on us personally, or as some sort of scam or deception. Because when we do, all it ultimately does is expose us as being less secure, less sure in our beliefs than we would wish others to realize. Because those who actually are secure in their beliefs have no fear of facing dissent; no worries of being proved "wrong".

This will be an important point when it's time for us to be taken seriously by the rest of the world: At some time in the future when the Open Source movement may be the deciding factor and main means of introducing a new and successful Free Energy technology to the world....

We will be judged: Are we wearing our tin foil hats loosely; or do we have the Ground Wire firmly attached ?

[ashtweth]

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[Matthew Jones]

The worst thing is how they are ignoring well documented info on the magnetic poles reversing.
Their is a quete a bit of evidence that somthing happening with the poles. The largest peice of evidence is a spot east of South America in the ocean (How many square miles i can't remember) that has a 2-3 times more solar radiation peering down on it. It is so high they do not recomend prolonged exposure to the sun in this area. Do to radiation sickness not just sun exposure.
I was watching the Discovery science channel and they had a 1 hour show on global warming followed up by a 1 hour show on this radiation and its causes. But it was never mentioned as a factor in global warming. When clearly it should have some contributing factors at minimum. I would think solar radiation hitting the water would have some effect. Heat if anything.

I think though the reason these (Anti CO2) people have taken such a stance with no tolerance is due to the fact that they have been trying to bring attention to this problem for some time.
Everytime a scientist or physist comes out againts them the right wing nazi, neo-cons, big energy zombies immediatly use that as proof that global warming doesn't exist. And disregard all causes.
So they (The anti CO2) take a no telerance for anything else approach, and because of that they now have started a trend.

It to bad they ignore everything else. Reminds me of that fellow H.A.Lorentz. Who mearly wrote that the Heavyside component was not Mathmaticly calculateable and should disregarded. Look what that has turned into...

Matt

[wpage]

Control

Ash is right. Its about government control. This another contrived crisis. More fear mongering to keep folks from learning the truth.
Paid spokeman and scientist producing any results they are told to produce in certain applications.
The goal it to turn the public into sheep that will be lead...

Certainly we need to be good stewards of the non-renuable energy sources. Yes we are developing alternative systems right here and now. Yes we will driving electric vehicles 20 years from now. However not due to Al Gore and some slant science scaring children.

Its really time for Big Gov and Big Oil to start acting like adults. Gee ExxonMobil only made $45 Billion in profits in '08. If there were real leaders in this world. They would be scaring the board of that and other energy company executives. Rather than giving kids bad dreams!

[sigzidfit]

Thesis -> Antithesis -> Synthesis

Problem -> Reaction -> Solution

Global Climate Change -> Were All Gonna Die! -> Tax Cow Farts

[Aaron]

reduce pollution without arguing climate change

People have been handed the issues to debate over instead of coming up with them themselves. Global Warming vs Global Cooling vs No impact on the environment, etc...

Just like in the USA... people are essentially closed (as in closing a sale) on their choices... Will that be cash or charge?.... will that be Republican or Democrat?...2 sides of the same coin...just illusion of choice to have people debating nothing more than two paths to the SAME agenda.

The Bilderberg's agenda is to tax us to death on carbon emissions, while convincing us that we're responsible for the climate change. It has always been their plan to convince the people that there is a man-made catastrophe that will give the powers that be the ability to pass more laws and gain more control over the people because of it. Just a global psyops propaganda scheme that they have NOT been secret about.

As far as our energy use, the only thing we really have control over regardless of if it causes climate change or not is pollution.

People will remain divided forever like democrats and republicans if they argue global warming or cooling or no impact.

The only thing that I can see that could be agreed on by most people is that we need to reduce pollution while keeping the climate change argument out of the conversation. Reducing pollution, keeping toxins out of our water, land and air, food, etc...

I think this is the productive focus....as I've believed for a long time, if it is going to get hot I want to breathe clean air and if it is going to freeze, I still want to breathe clean air. I can't change what the sun is doing to the Earth but I can control how dirty or clean I leave the planet.

[sigzidfit]

I reckon constantly changing weather is proper functioning of the biosphere. Water, air, and food that kills you aint.

Peace
PJ

[gmeast]

enter the cooling cycle

Hi all,

Out ability to accurately interpret archeological, ice and other records is recent ... what ... 200 years of scientific record keeping ... 50 year of interpretation. It's enough though to conclude that we are in a natural cooling cycle, and this is also according to NASA.

But please just remember that as we are in this 'cooling cycle', CO2 and other greenhouse gasses continue to accumulate. So in essence, there is a latent 'warming trend' operating in the background. When the next 'natural warming cycle' swings into play it will likely result in a devastating warming of the planet.

Or not,

Greg

[lamare]

[Aaron]

Al Gore sued by over 30.000 Scientists for fraud / John Coleman

YouTube - Al Gore sued by over 30.000 Scientists for fraud / John Coleman

[ashtweth]

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[Vortex]

Just Baffle the People

First it was acid rain, then the ozone hole. Now, CO2 in the air is supposed to bring on a climate catastrophe. Is global warming really a threat, are the polar ice caps in danger of elting and are coastal areas of habitation under threat of a deluge?
Do we therefore need an energy-CO2 tax?

@all
The Candle burns at both ends to keep everyone TOTALLY baffled with conflicting information ..
if you can't BS them (they aren't for it), baffled them (they can't appose it, because they don't know)

Ash and All, it's not being called the "CO2-Tax", "GreenHouse Gases Tax", "emissions tax" or "pollution tax".
No, NO!!!, That would force them to FOCUS upon what they say the problem is.
They are not calling it any those names at all, it's the CARBON-TAX...
you know that Carbon stuff all LIFE and non-living is made of.
Why Carbon-Tax, the wider the brush is, the more things you can paint with a tax.
To prevent weeds from growing you remove the SOIL, that's the carbon-tax method of a solution.
Besides, only the consumer will pay a carbon-tax, business will never pay a dime.
Oh, "carbon-credit" .. you have "Credit-Cards" .. Same Thing..
Credit-cards have been such a good idea, we'll use it for carbon-tax now.
It's the NEW Credit-Card, "carbon-credit", banks will eat it up!!!! wake up.


Old Ice Age:
Monday, Jun. 24, 1974, Time Magazine, Another Ice Age?
NOAA: Ice Age warnings lead to funding via a letter from Kukla to Nixon
Many other Ice Age articles of OLD found under the "More Info" of this video Global Cooling: The Coming Ice Age.

So it's BAFFLE the people Time ..
NEW ICE AGE:
Scientist: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age April 23, 2008
13th November 2008, Global warning: We are actually heading towards a new Ice Age, claim scientists
January 11, 2009 Global Warming Update: 'Earth on the Brink of an Ice Age' Such was reported by Russia's Pravda Sunday

Warming data has been debunked as distortions of the facts,
for example:
NASA pronouncement about global temperatures going up DURING the last decade
was A LIE, it's most of the century.
Warmest U.S. decade in 1930s, not the 1990s.
Go to the above link at NASA as see for yourself.


John Coleman founder of The Weather Channel ...
John Coleman slams global warming (1 of 4)
John Coleman slams global warming (2 of 4)
John Coleman slams global warming (3 of 4)
John Coleman slams global warming (4 of 4)
John in part 4, tells us South American and China had the
worst winter in 50 years. Alaska worst winter in 2 decades, -72 F degrees

As John Coleman tells you and this link confirms
saying they must be corrected before innocent schoolchildren can be exposed to the movie."
Someone is trying to stop the lies.
? how many scientific items in the movie where NOT errors then?
I've never seen the movie..

The WARMING OR COOLING is not the ISSUE, it's ONLY the distraction ...
Like a magic act, leaving you asking yourself, how did that happen?
Ask yourself what is being done about it??
The only effect any action will have will equal less money in your pocket.
Business will buy carbon credits and add that expense to your purchase,
plus you will be hit at the register for additional "carbon-taxes" too.
Nothing else will happen. Think about it.
The money is going to leave one pocket and go into another pocket.
What pocket is it leaving from and what pocket is it going into?

Follow the money .. works every time ..

Love and Light
Randy

[Vortex]

Research Link: ICECAP

Surfacestations project reaches 70% of the network surveyed. 854 of 1221 stations have been examined in the USHCN network.
See surfacestations org
(see web site for stick-pins in a Google Earth map of these CRN sites)
for eye-ball surveys of "Climate Reference Network" (CRN).
CRN ratings are shown in the graph below, these CRNs are where
the temperatures come form in the US.

Climate Reference Network Rating Guide - adopted from NCDC Climate Reference Network Handbook, 2002, specifications for siting (section 2.2.1) of NOAA's new Climate Reference Network:

Class 1 (CRN1)- Flat and horizontal ground surrounded by a clear surface with a slope below 1/3 (<19deg). Grass/low vegetation ground cover <10 centimeters high. Sensors located at least 100 meters from artificial heating or reflecting surfaces, such as buildings, concrete surfaces, and parking lots. Far from large bodies of water, except if it is representative of the area, and then located at least 100 meters away. No shading when the sun elevation >3 degrees.

Class 2 (CRN2) - Same as Class 1 with the following differences. Surrounding Vegetation <25 centimeters. No artificial heating sources within 30m. No shading for a sun elevation >5deg.

Class 3 (CRN3) (error >=1C) - Same as Class 2, except no artificial heating sources within 10 meters.

Class 4 (CRN4) (error >= 2C) - Artificial heating sources <10 meters.

Class 5 (CRN5) (error >= 5C) - Temperature sensor located next to/above an artificial heating source, such a building, roof top, parking lot, or concrete surface."