The Great Global Warming Swindle

[bugler]

What is wrong with software patents that is not wroing with other patents?

[Peter Lindemann]

Off Topic

Lamare and Bugler,

No more discussion of "software patents" here. It is totally OFF TOPIC for this thread. If you wish to discuss it, please start a different thread.

Peter

[Peter Lindemann]

American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009

Hi Folks,

Well, here is the real story on the "political implications" of "global warming". If this bill passes the Senate, you will lose the "right" to sell your home without approval from the "Energy Czar".

Cap & Trade - A License Required For Your Home http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-2454 - VegHaven.org

Here is a link to the bill, so you can read it yourself:

H.R. 2454: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)

Welcome to the New World. Can you feel the heat, yet?

Peter

[Aaron]

3 articles

Obama's unconstitutional czar....

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Another part of the scandal is some of the "scientists" are claiming a
bunch of data was dumped years ago. But in the hacker files, it seems
that it is all there including evidence of tampering in the more recent
years:


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And Congress to investigate EPA cover up of the facts.
Congress to investigate suppression of global warming report by EPA

[lamare]

Lamare and Bugler,

No more discussion of "software patents" here. It is totally OFF TOPIC for this thread.

@Peter: yes and no.

I totally agree that the subject "software patents" is totally off topic here, but that was not the point.

The point is that a grass-roots campaign may be the answer to the problem, just like it was an answer to what we experienced as a problem a few years ago.

It doesn't matter at all where someone stands on the subject of the previous problem I have been engaged in, what matters is that here on this forum there is a group of people that feel there is a problem someone should do something about. And, if part of that group is willing to do that, these could learn a lot from our experiences.

So, why not consider setting up a campaign? It really is not that difficult or expensive to do in this internet area.

All you really need is a website, some mailinglists and some volunteers.

What you need most of all, are three mailinglists. One filled with press contacts, one filled with politicians email adresses, and one for internal discussion and coordination.

If you want to be mentioned in the press, the first thing to do is to get e-mail adresses of journalists, websites, newspapers, TV shows, and so on. Using a mailinglist like mailman, one has a central database of press email contacts, that can be maintained by just a few volunteers so that your press-contact-list is a) centralised b) maintained and c) continually grows.

The same thing goes for polticians. If you want their attention, you have to mail them. If you fill a mailinglist with their e-mail adresses, you can contact all of them with one single e-mail.

Once you have these kind of mailinglists, you can start writing press-releases and informational messages to politicians. The more press contacts you have in your database, the bigger the chance someone publishes your press releases, or contacts you for more information.

That way, you can slowly gain momentum. Even if only some "obscure" websites publish your messages in the beginning, momentum is gained. As long as your messages are well written, reliable and correct, sooner or later more and more people will notice them.

Another trick is to setup an online petition. That comes in handy once you want to contact parliaments somewhere.

[Peter Lindemann]

Still Off Topic

Lamare,

Coaching for political activism is OFF TOPIC here, too. I'm happy that you know how to organize political "grass roots" movements, but PLEASE, go do it somewhere else!

The purpose of this thread is to be a PUBLIC RECORD of links to information on "global warming", "climate change", and the idea that these processes are primarily, natural cycles and not "man-made".

The recent "climategate" revelations are directly ON TOPIC here, since it supports the idea that the "man-made global warming" idea was promoted by manipulating the scientific data for political purposes. For all intents and purposes, this is the same idea proposed in the film The Great Global Warming Swindle Video, which is linked here, and at the beginning of this thread.

You can also BUY a copy of the film here: The Great Global Warming Swindle

There is also another film that discusses both the science AND the political implications called "Global Warming or Global Governance?"

You can watch that film here:

Global Warming or Global Governance

Peter

[dmonarch]

Hackers uncover emails

Check this videos out.
YouTube - Hackers Reveal Climate Change Fraud (1)
Damian

[lamare]

Hi all,

Just stumbled onto this:

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt15.html:

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Knut Aabakken of Norway makes the following observations on the current carbon dioxide situation:

"David Archibald (pdf document) published the graph shown here in 2006:

This graph clearly shows that even a big increase in the carbon dioxide level has almost no impact on atmospheric temperature. It has also been calculated that an increase to 620 ppm would give a temperature increase of only 0.16OC.

http://www.davidarchibald.info/papers/Climate%20Outlook%20to%202030.pdf

There's more interesting info on the website of David Archibald
Welcome to David Archibald.info

For example, "failure to warm":

http://www.davidarchibald.info/papers/Failure%20To%20Warm.pdf

"Warming or Cooling":

http://www.davidarchibald.info/papers/Warming%20or%20Cooling.pdf

[ashtweth]

Hi Peter/ALL

Just stumbled across this one, has a lot of FACTS regarding our little scam going on:

Global Warming Science and Public Policy - Home

Ash

OT -I agree, even tho the best way to police the politicians is to make them accountable to the public. EDUCATION (as this thread) as well a the grass roots stuff.

[Aaron]

get resource Ash!

Great site Ash!

35 serious scientific errors in Gore's powerpoint mockumentary.


Global Warming Science and Public Policy - 450 Peer Reviewed Papers Supporting Skepticism of AGW-Caused Global Warming
Direct link to pdf with all these references, which by their very existence
proves there is no such thing as a scientific consensus on global warming
regardless of what Gore's misleading and fake propaganda have to say
about it.

This document is a must have!
Global Warming Science and Public Policy - Climategate: Caught Green-Handed!
Direct link to pdf:

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/Monckton-Caught%20Green-Handed%20Climategate%20Scandal.pdf

[lamare]

Inquiries Begin on Climate Files; Head of British Climate Unit Steps Aside

This is going in the right direction:

Head of Climate Unit Steps Down Pending Inquiry - BlackListed NewsInquiries Begin on Climate Files; Head of British Climate Unit Steps Aside - Dot Earth Blog - NYTimes.com

Right from the horeses mouth:
CRU Update 1 December - University of East Anglia (UEA)

"Professor Phil Jones has today announced that he will stand aside as Director of the Climatic Research Unit until the completion of an independent Review resulting from allegations following the hacking and publication of emails from the Unit."

[dmonarch]

Hi Lamare i would be suprised if anything came of it. For most people stepping down means that you realize youve done something wrong and you want to save face for who you work for. He however gets a nice golden parachute and does very well what was asked of him. Anothing person of similar breeding will fit into the job easily. Most normal people tend to have a week long memory span so after a week they will forget. Also the jo blog is bombarded with crap called news all the time. He/she has become decesitized to it such that if anything important does come along it will just wash straight over.
Damia

[brenie]

Hi Lamare, have you noticed no one resigns anymore, they take gardening leave!
Don't suppose there will be any prosecutions for Fraud?

Regards, Bren.

[Peter Lindemann]

Australian Senate Rejects Carbon Trading Scheme

Hi Guys,

Here is an article from the BBC reporting on developments in Australia.

BBC News - Australian Senate rejects Kevin Rudd's climate plan

Perhaps the Global Warming bulldozer is losing momentum.

Peter

[Aaron]

Big Drop in Those Who Believe That Global Warming Is Coming

Peter,

Seems the scam has been losing some serious steam
even before the hacker files were released.

Check out the Harris Interactive poll.

Harris Interactive: Your full service research partner for ensuring improved business performance. With global capabilities including Internet-based market research enabled by our panel, Harris Poll Online.

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/pubs/Harris_Poll_2009_12_02.pdf

Global warming believers dropped from 71% two years ago to 51% now.

This is the LOWEST it has been since they started doing this poll
12 years ago.

The poll was done between Nov 2 and Nov 11...9 days before the hacker
files were released. I wonder what it would be now? Probably much higher
in the disbeliever group.