Trees as radiant energy collector

[MonsieurM]

I would have posted this under Agriculture but I wanted to show you this as proof of what i said earlier:

ps: to motivate some of you, think of it as saving trees by giving them a new function....also one positive side effect would be electroculture (see http://www.energeticforum.com/141979-post7.html )

Evergreen Agriculture | World Agroforestry Centre

Evergreen Agriculture - the combination of trees in farming systems (agroforestry) with the principles of conservation farming - is emerging as an affordable and accessible science-based solution to caring better for the land and increasing smallholder food production.

Now Imagine the tree is the coil in the following picture




Here is a video (start at 10 min) which show you an animation of how the roots of a tree behave when planted in the middle of a field, (sorry it is in french)

YouTube - ‪Les arbres, ces grands malades. 3‬‏

[Slider2732]

I do wish i'd got my self made Ground to work properly...some of your links and postings above relate heavily to Earth energies, especially within tree study and other living matter research.
But within the struggles many things have been noticed that directly tally to Tesla's work in Colorado Springs. The Ground is composed of a steel pipe of 1ft buried outside a nearby window (copper pipes from our plumbing were spirited away by a guy who said he could fix our water problems, which are ongoing). Bell wire links from the pipe to my workbench. Sometimes experiments really benefit from that wire, sometimes not. There is a direct correlation of moisture to effectiveness. I don't continually water the pipe area to get the best results, as Tesla had to for some time, but can't anyway, we don't have running water (the pipe is broken just after the mains feed and we have to collect buckets of water periodically from the mains supply...I also put buckets out during storms for the toilet water).
What has been noticed though, is that during a storm, the output increases, or should I say the Ground becomes most effective. Straight after the storm and for some hours, the effect is strongest, whittling down over a day until I find some experiments to have reduced in efficiency by approx 50%. Right now, I have a triple voltage doubler circuit running, that connects to that 1 wire. I can power a LCD watch with it no troubles under wet conditions. When the ground dries out, the circuit will only run if the watch is disconnected for an hour, the 100uF caps are then allowed to charge and then the watch will run for about 5 minutes before fading out.

[MonsieurM]

Amazing Synchronicity, i just posted this in this thread:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7909-open-source-project-tesla-jackson-wireless-transmission.html

For those that have already replicated the Tesla/Jackson Wireless Transmission, try grounding both antenna's in water, or/and fill the balls with water...I'm almost sure that you will notice an improvement....
...One thing he forgot to mention when he wrote, "This invention, which I have described in technical publications, attempts to imitate, in a very crude way, the nervous system in the human body" is the presence of water, which you should not forget is present in The human body at about 60% water in adult males and 55% in adult females. that 's one big coil don't you think?

[MonsieurM]

one more info, i'd like to add, and i believe the effect could be increased once you have "rigged" your tree

Trees-Attract-The-Rain

http://www.calebcompany.com/pdf/Trees-Attract-The-Rain.pdf

Water being your medium of transmission, the clouds will provide you with it, a closed loop system.

[MonsieurM]

. The Ground is composed of a steel pipe of 1ft buried outside a nearby window (copper pipes from our plumbing were spirited away by a guy who said he could fix our water problems, which are ongoing). Bell wire links from the pipe to my workbench.

Try connecting your steel "pipe of 1ft buried" to tree, maybe a circuit in between, and see how it goes...

Try using Bizzy's Method :

Another experiment which may be relevant to your question... I placed a magnesium wire with a copper wire at opposite ends of a flower pot and connect them to opposite ends of a capacitor.
I was measuring volateg which was minmal until i placed several of them in a series.
however my wife was watching the plant growth and she swears her flowers were much more vibrant and larger than other years.
Now that I think about it once the rain stops and we can pot our flowers I may rig one pot as I descibed and the other with nothing to see how it grows. Or should I say IF the rain stops

Bizzy

[Slider2732]

Yeah i'll give that tree circuit a go. We have a (looks for name of it and wife is not in the room to ask) large tree opposite the pipe. It's about 10ft or so distant and i've always wondered about multiple paths and phase properties...such that there would be 3 lines to the tree from the Ground stake. They would be arranged as a triangle. You would expect the path of least resistance to be the one that any power used, however, does current definitely obey and does voltage definitely obey when given the 'choice' and where the tree is doing a job of work ?
Ideally, the Russell style coil of water would be within a strong but flexible tube. Then the water in that tube would be accelerated via an external pump. At a sweet spot of pump velocity, the energies may flow. Be it 0.01Hz, or Earth resonant frequency, or 20kHz !
I have no idea. It's probably very simple physics, but I do like to experiment
It'll be something for a few weeks time, parts collection inbetween.

[MonsieurM]

Be it 0.01Hz, or Earth resonant frequency, or 20kHz !

FYI:

The Schumann resonances (SR) are a set of spectrum peaks in the extremely low frequency (ELF) portion of the Earth's electromagnetic field spectrum. Schumann resonances are global electromagnetic resonances, excited by lightning discharges in the cavity formed by the Earth's surface and the ionosphere....
....as distinct peaks at extremely low frequencies (ELF) around 7.83, 14.3, 20.8, 27.3 and 33.8 Hz.

Schumann resonances - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

the 7.83 Hz frequency, is "coincidentally" close to the frequency used by Dr.Montagnier in his experiment of DNA Teleportation of 7Hz

Luc MONTAGNIER DNA Teleportation

A Nobel Prize winning biologist has ignited controversy after publishing details of an experiment in which a fragment of DNA appeared to 'teleport' or imprint itself between test tubes.

According to a team headed by Luc Montagnier, previously known for his work on HIV and AIDS, two test tubes, one of which contained a tiny piece of bacterial DNA, the other pure water, were surrounded by a weak electromagnetic field of 7Hz.



Eighteen hours later, after DNA amplification using a polymerase chain reaction, as if by magic the DNA was detectable in the test tube containing pure water.

also:

The Ground is composed of a steel pipe of 1ft buried outside a nearby window (copper pipes from our plumbing were spirited away by a guy who said he could fix our water problems, which are ongoing). Bell wire links from the pipe to my workbench.

you may want to fill the pipe with water just like this illustration, the only difference is that you'll be connecting the tree(s) to the pipe:



I found an example matching your situation:

from Justin CHRISTOFLEAU

ElectroCulture (he even invented a Electromagnetic Fertilisator)




Justin CHRISTOFLEAU -- Electroculture book & patents





note: arm yourself with a little patience, took him 18 hours to reach the desired effect

[MonsieurM]

good news dug up another interesting info, for water resonnance:

Resonance in water.

If you wind 1000 turns of 26 swg enamelled copper wire around a glass bottle filled with water and then flash this coil a cross a 12 volt car battery ..... all of the protons in the bottle, that were previously aligned with earths magnetic field .... immediately realign them selves with this new field. As soon as this field collapses the protons want to realign back to Earths magnetic field. The problem is that the protons are spinning like a top and instead of a smooth precession they 'wobble' back, in the same way as a child's top wobbles as it runs down. If after flashing the coil we then connect it to a high gain frequency counter we can actually measure the 'wobble' frequency ...... and it is directly proportional to the ambient field strength. For example in Southern England ... away from any magnetic anomalies ... the wobble frequency is about 2000 Hertz. If magnetic anomalies are present then the wobble frequency will change. This is the principle of the early magnetometers.

...Equipment resonance.

If we wire a capacitor and an inductance is series or parallel, together they form a tuned circuit, that has a resonant frequency. At resonance the voltage across the inductance or the water capacitor is at a maximum. If we want to develop a maximum voltage across either component then the frequency of stimulation must equal the resonant frequency of the tuned circuit, ie the water capacitor and two resonant chokes. At this point we have to assume that they really do form a tuned circuit. The next move is to excite that tuned circuit to find out what it's resonant frequency is. This has to be done with the water capacitor full of water, which has a dielectric constant of about 84. This means that providing the water does not short out the plates, the capacitor will have it's empty value multiplied by a factor of 84 ... since C approximates to .....



Where ....


C is the capacitance in farads, F
A is the area of each plate, measured in square metres
εr is the relative static permittivity (sometimes called the dielectric constant) of the material between the plates, (vacuum =1)
ε0 is the permittivity of free space where ε0 = 8.854x10-12 F/m
d is the separation between the plates, measured in metres

Small World, article talks about the Meyer device...

Searching for Magic Frequencies

Reminder of Rogers Apparatus:

The Rogers laboratory, which comprises several large rooms, is lined on all sides with glass cabinets containing electrical apparatus which he has invented from time to time through his studious career. A novel and original high frequency generator was another of the devices that greatly interested the writer. It employed a jet of water shunted by a large capacity, the stream of water being connected to a high potential source of direct current. High frequency currents of any range up to the limit of audibility, or about 30,000 cycles per second, could be readily obtained with this apparatus.

side note

Another version of this "water" high frequency generator:

the Jet Turbine by Viktor Schauberge with the direct current passing through the cone-shaped rotor

[Farmhand]

Twisted and Untwisted Tree's.

That is an awesome collection of information MonsieurM, I will need to review the bulk of it before I take action. I've been looking at different tree's and evaluating them.

I think I see some twisted and some not of the same kind of tree very close together. If I get time tomorrow I'll get a picture or two. Unfortunately they are too near to the AC wire's from the grid to the house. So no good to experiment with.

[MonsieurM]

You are most , And i'm really thankful to find people like minded willing to take the time to review and experiment.

it is only natural to give back, to those that have patiently and passionately shared their knowledge.

ps: I try to quote the most relevant information, of course, i could miss something, but i try not to

However, once you start experimenting, you may need to print all the info i posted (sorry) or put it on your ipad/ebook reader, so you can start taking notes for future tweaking .

You'll have to forgive me for asking, but is this set up relevant to our subject:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/8234-resonating-resonator-circuit.html

replace coils with water coils

I thought I would give a little bit of explination to the circuit.

The first part is as the Prof: has but with a few alterations that I think will make it work better. This is our frequency generator which is very low power consumption, this then feeds the pulse "pump" to the decoupling cap C2. Feeding in after C2 is our bias voltage which all goes to a parametric amplifier, the Faraday loop is our LC which is also part of our special transformer/antenna system and feed back and power load output.

This is "by design" to resonate with the ambient and draw in extra energy, the output coil setup should be temperature measured before and after starting the circuit, a temperature difference should be seen if the circuit is running as by design.

A neon and not a led should be used on the secound output as there will be quite high voltage there.

The Faraday loop is place exactly in the center of the 15T coil and the two pick up coils are either end of the 15T coil. The 15T coil should be of a dia: of 1.5mm and the pick up coils half this size.

Mike

according to the picture, your tree would be the top antenna and earth ground

maybe

Experience is made before the law is formulated, both are related like cause an effect. Nicholas Tesla

[MonsieurM]

I found this thread on Overunity Forum about Water coil, quite interesting for the tree antenna esperiment

Water coil in magnetic generator

Hi all,

Just found the link http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/magneticinduc.htm
The site itself contains many ideas about water splitting, properties, etc., but mostly theoretical
Site root http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/index.html

Now brief desctription of idea from first link.

1) The one suggests to make some kind of water solenoid "coil" - by replacing the regular wire coil with coil of thin plastic pipe filled with h2so4 (or other) electrolitic solution.

2) Place the permanent magnet on one axle with dc motor inside the coil and spin to generate emf in surrounding coil.

Here are the questions:

1) What about back-emf in such system ? Will it make any resistance for dc motor if we take some electricity from "generator" water coil (the coil contains regular metal electrodes on its endings of course). I think that there should be back-emf effect but I confused with water conductors

2) If the emf generated in this water coil - AC electrolysis should take place. How this electrolysis agrees with energy conservation law ? We have the H2 and O2 on exit along with AC electricity - but place some DC to spinning motor (which possible counterforced by back-emf.

[MonsieurM]

Magnetic Induction of Water

Supposedly any conductive material can be made into a generator in one of these ways. Now as I pointed out liquid conductors do have different properties than metal conductors, primarily in how they transmit a charge as I pointed out in the Experiment #1 paper. I can't find any information that would suggest that you COULDN'T use water as a generator if you followed the basic rules of building and operating such a generator. There are many possibilities along those lines which I plan
to deal with separately. In this posting I just wanted to look at generators in general....
... In thinking about this in relation to water I decided that it would be interesting to think about weather or not water, used as the coils in a generator, would work. We already know that the Hydrogen Bond in water is weakened by the proximity to an electromagnetic field and we know that water (with an electrolyte) acts as a conductor. The fact that it is a conductor satisfies the main requirement for induction of electric current and the weakening in the presence of an EMF would suggest that, as above, a charge could be inducted by proximity. With these two factors in favor of the idea of water as the coil in a generator would seem to indicate that it would be possible to construct a mechanism which would exploit this and cause an electric current to be generated.

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[sucahyo]

Trees require only voltage, so I doubt trees will produce much current. But Schauberger mention that healthy tree has enough power to lit a lightbulb.

Electroculture works because electricity (voltage) is converted to energy that the tree respond too. As proof, I get giant leaf with something that must not has electricity nor magnetism. I think tree antenna work the same way as moody coil. Here is my experiment. Overshadowed though.


I once tried putting a coil (not cone) at the north of a small plant, the plants die. There is still too much variable to be learned.

Similar device may make water taste better, altering the water structure and attract rain.



I think you will find this bellow interesting, by Kevin:

The trees in the northern hemisphere that are not evergreens alter the spin direction and it's field diameters twice yearly.
On march 18( aprox)
and Sept 22nd( aprox)
During the winter the dominant above surface field spin direction is clockwise, on march the 18th this slowly stops and reverses totally, as does the field below surface, then the dominant field is focussed above the tree, the water FALLS to the top of the tree, on Sept 22nd they again reverse and all the water is then attracted back underground to a point below the tree.

I consider every branch and root as antennae, then i assume that the tree alters the shape of the resonant structure, thus reversing the field flows.

The positive flow nearest the earth has fallen by halve, the trees are electricly based and thus know that winter is arriving, they are altering the field spin direction about themselves and the water is falling back towards the earth under the normal what we call gravity domain, in summer the trees totally turn this around and the water falls to the top of the tree, because gravity is a consequence not a force, it is about attraction of one state of spin to the other.
This is why the trees suddenly all react and the leaves dry out fast, and it all happens on a measurable grid, as blake painted.

The fields are sequenced to fibonacci, that is 34/55, not equal, the implosion rate into this planet is 55, the emmitance is 34, hence so called gravity, a consequence, not a force.
The net difference is how creation occurs, imho, thus the planets mass is created continually, unless a sudden spike occurs where a net reversal may occur, thus reverse creation where matter and mass in the pathway of such a spike will revert to no-thing, which is space, the discharge will be the reversal of 55/34.

[MonsieurM]

Trees require only voltage, so I doubt trees will produce much current. But Schauberger mention that healthy tree has enough power to lit a lightbulb.

I posted this a while back:

You have to completely change the way you see your plant/tree, (new referential), from the words of Walter Russell, stop looking at the effect but explore the cause.

I would highly recommend that you read this post to understand how you can extract energies out of a tree: (hint cone/spiral antenna = tree)

http://www.energeticforum.com/138939-post37.html

Properties of Light



link:
Electromagnetic Radiation



Solar power without solar cells: A hidden magnetic effect of light could make it possible

Light has electric and magnetic components. Until now, scientists thought the effects of the magnetic field were so weak that they could be ignored. What Rand and his colleagues found is that at the right intensity, when light is traveling through a material that does not conduct electricity, the light field can generate magnetic effects that are 100 million times stronger than previously expected. Under these circumstances, the magnetic effects develop strength equivalent to a strong electric effect. from the article

thanks for the info:

The fields are sequenced to fibonacci, that is 34/55, not equal, the implosion rate into this planet is 55, the emmitance is 34, hence so called gravity, a consequence, not a force.

It fits right in with a theory I have been exploring:

http://www.energeticforum.com/new-members-area/7372-better-way-present-periodic-table.html

as for

I consider every branch and root as antennae, then i assume that the tree alters the shape of the resonant structure, thus reversing the field flows.

thanks it just shows that a tree is an "adaptive antenna" as i mentioned it previously

what were trying to catch is not the electric component, but the magnetic component

[MonsieurM]

Water

Now that we talked about the structure, let me share with u some info on water:

New thread opened on:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/8252-how-build-water-coil.html

(and i hope it gets you to understand that we still have not unlocked all the secrets of water)

"In the Kirlian effect, which is a high-frequency electric discharge

this was posted on a thread I started on growing produce on salt water by Savvypro :

It would make sense if you think of the tomato as an antenna especially when you see the Kirlian pics

http://www.energeticforum.com/agriculture/8176-produce-salt-water.html

Note see Number 2 mountain water drop, and remember what I posted earlier:

I noticed that spiral trees were rare in the area around Long Lake, but they were common near tree line on Mount Audubon. This pattern is repeated in other areas, and appears to be common on the eastern slope of the Front Range. In general, spiral trees are rare in deep forests and valleys, and are most common on windy ridges and at tree line...
...Did you also think about the presence of a body of water close to the tree. If as i said previously water is your coil, the proximity of a larger coil (ie: the lac) all the tree would need is to resonate with the lac, nature does not like to waste energy.

The Capacity for Unique Bioinfluence Is Where the Colors of the Kirlian Aura Are (Ignat Ignatov) - Scientific Research Center of Medical Biophysics (SRCMB)

the following website has a collection of links relating to vibrational water, going from the esoteric to the scientific (u pick whichever interests you).

Vibrational water is a term we are using to encompass a broad range of concepts and technologies related to energetic water themes. Vibrational energy is an emerging field in medicine, physics, and agriculture. Thus, related terms include vibrational medicine, vibrational physics, and vibrational agriculture.

Perhaps you will notice that some of these practices deal with subtle energy (e.g., Reiki, sai sanjeevini), while others are grounded in mechanical-biological (e.g., flow forms, Effective Microorganisms). We take a liberal approach and include all of these practices and concepts under this large umbrella known as vibrational water.

Vibrational Water

Vibrational Water:// Standard Chemistry and Physics; A Reference Point

Causes of Color: //Why is water blue? //Vibrations and visible spectrum
Home | Causes of Color

Causes of Color: //Home
Home | Causes of Color

Double-Resonance Spectroscopy of Autoionizing States of Water
Double-resonance spectroscopy of autoionizing states of water

Dense Water
Peter Augustin

http://www.dichtes-wasser.de/eng/startframe_englisch.htm

http://www.dichtes-wasser.de/eng/The_Anomalies_of_Water.htm

The Muscles in Water

http://www.dichtes-wasser.de/eng/membrantext_englisch.htm

The Biological Vacuum

http://www.dichtes-wasser.de/eng/the_biological_vacuum.htm

Biological life is above all invisible, contractile, vibrating, reflecting muscle
membrane in water.

At the Beginning was the Sound. The Earthworm or The inner Infinity
Peter Augustin
http://www.dichtes-wasser.de/eng/at_..._the_sound.htm

water is present everywhere

Water appears to be one of the most abundant molecules in the Universe. It dominates the environment of the Earth and is a main constituent of numerous planets, moons and comets. On a far greater scale it possibly contributes to the so-called "missing mass" of the Universe and may initiate the birth of stars inside the giant molecular clouds. This paper gives a brief description of water and ice environments with an emphasis on their possible origin and subsequent development in the Solar System. Expanding the scope of hydrology to cover phenomena encountered on other celestial bodies is postulated and discussed.

WATER IN THE UNIVERSE

The Paper

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