Figuera Device, Part G Continuum.( Serious Builders Only)

[Cornboy 555]

Hi Mm, UFO, an all,

UFO, your question on the other thread about your PSU, can,t you simply use some batteries in series until you get your secondaries sorted to run the device?.

Regards Cornboy.

[Ufopolitics]

Hi Mm, UFO, an all,

UFO, your question on the other thread about your PSU, can,t you simply use some batteries in series until you get your secondaries sorted to run the device?.

Regards Cornboy.

Yes I could...but I want to run tests being able to dial up or down the Voltages as Amperage Independently...You see I am using "non-conventional" methods to read the close (Max) and the far(Min) fields on my B&W CRT horizontal line...that way I get to know the exact VA power required to work with Exciters covering up all the Secondaries spatial area...

I have used batteries...but they just literally "dump" all power at once my friend...basically working with so low resistance like on here.


But thanks anyways for your suggestion.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[marathonman]

Currant Dump

It seams to me that if you start commutator rotation before applying power that you might be able to work with the batteries. but then again it will take a moment of time for part G to build up it's field to working conditions.

some things just need to be tried.

Parts come in Monday like electronics, 14 awg wire, ect. will be very busy next week.

Quote;

"Cold handling of Currents Fluctuations within always Positive Values...awesome Method!!!

Nothing else but a Beautiful Conceived Design Friend!!"

a testimate to Figuera's pure genious. the complete opposite end of einstein's BS.

a sort of "IN YOUR FACE" design, don't you think.

i hear the slumber party is at it again, totally hilarious.


MM

[Cornboy 555]

Yes I could...but I want to run tests being able to dial up or down the Voltages as Amperage Independently...You see I am using "non-conventional" methods to read the close (Max) and the far(Min) fields on my B&W CRT horizontal line...that way I get to know the exact VA power required to work with Exciters covering up all the Secondaries spatial area...

I have used batteries...but they just literally "dump" all power at once my friend...basically working with so low resistance like on here.


But thanks anyways for your suggestion.


Regards


Ufopolitics

Yep, understand UFO,

also about to start winding my toroid and am wondering about the size of split gap in winding's, does the circumference degrees width of the opening have much bearing on the wave form at the primaries, and is there a best amount of degrees you have found so far?.

@Mm, just try to ignore them and do your thing.

Best Regards Cornboy.

[marathonman]

Own Thing

Trust me, i have been doing my own thing since i got here. that is why we are here and they are not. our devices will be working and their's will not.
IT IS BETTER THAN COMEDY CENTRAL ON TV.

MM

[Ufopolitics]

Yep, understand UFO,

also about to start winding my toroid and am wondering about the size of split gap in winding's, does the circumference degrees width of the opening have much bearing on the wave form at the primaries, and is there a best amount of degrees you have found so far?.

Best Regards Cornboy.

Cornboy, like I said on video...and as I wrote before...try to do your windings kind of loose so you could move them around toroid...

It is not much about angle specifics but as you get turns closer to each others it will "compact" all parameters at play here...And so you will be compressing (reducing) the current path as well...therefore, your raise to peak + as your fall to peak - would be closer. Opposite when you expand turns.

I am deducting some data from my experiment plus Netica's...the only ones so far presented here...

Netica used around 1.67 mm2 of cross section (equivalent to 15 gauge awg) at 40 turns and gave the signal you saw he posted...which in my opinion is too narrow (skinny) as it falls on lows a bit too much...and Netica was only going like 30 Hz, which is around half from the going frequency either for 50 Hz Europe or 60 Hz USA...which means when he reaches 50 Hz (I believe Netica is in Europe)...signal would be even narrower.

As mine shown at video is way too spread...even though it falls almost perfect 50% on the down fall...and I used 8 awg which is 8 mm2 cross section and only like 18 turns (after I split wind)...so definitively I need at least to double the count or use a bit thinner wire...like 10 awg.

I am basing all these gauge info on this Chart

Resuming from above...that Netica needs a bit less turns ..as I need more turns ...in order to approach a better signal.

Other way to play with signal is to vary the Brush sweeping area at Comm...that is why I made mine adjustable and in an angle...so, the bigger the brush area the shorter and more "skinny" the wave (which is like compacting turns)...and viceversa...the shorter the area the flatter and wider the signal would be.

Also for this stage of experimenting until finding the right spec's...I recommend to use easy fasteners at the wind Taps to remove and replace at other turns...without removing all windings which is really painful...

This way you could play by positioning tapped points at different distances between them as well as the output terminals...

Hope this helps you friend...


Regards


Ufopolitics

[Cornboy 555]

Thanks UFO, will see how it goes, it certainly is completely variable.

I am using 3mm varnish coated copper wire with around 7 - 8 turns per node,which leaves a nice gap between wires, remembering that i have 8 nodes not 10. hope this pans out as it is a single continueos wind with nickle coated copper balustrade crimp terminals threaded on to the wire. I could alter it later if need be, just more work.

Regards Cornboy.

[marathonman]

Wire

14 awg primary wire came in about 30 minutes ago. looks like i will have a good primary winding weekend. Woo who !



MM

[Cornboy 555]

Thanks UFO, will see how it goes, it certainly is completely variable.

I am using 3mm varnish coated copper wire with around 7 - 8 turns per node,which leaves a nice gap between wires, remembering that i have 8 nodes not 10. hope this pans out as it is a single continueos wind with nickle coated copper balustrade crimp terminals threaded on to the wire. I could alter it later if need be, just more work.

Regards Cornboy.

OK, UFO, looking at it a bit closer from what you have said, i will have 56 turns of 3mm on the toroid, this will probably produce a signal that is to sharp and skinny, would you say?.

Also just tried the crimping pliers and not enough room to get to terminals, so will have to try and find alternative that can clamp on after winding.

I am quite isolated here with the nearest large town 1and 1/2 hours away so will have to wait till Monday, darn it.

Thanks Cornboy.

[Cornboy 555]

14 awg primary wire came in about 30 minutes ago. looks like i will have a good primary winding weekend. Woo who !



MM

Exciting time for you Mm, all the best, and happy winding.

Warm Regards Cornboy.

[Ufopolitics]

OK, UFO, looking at it a bit closer from what you have said, i will have 56 turns of 3mm on the toroid, this will probably produce a signal that is to sharp and skinny, would you say?.

Thanks Cornboy.

I think so....why did you do so many turns??!

You really like to wind uh?...

You also could have some response delay...too many winds for small amount of comm elements...
Don't you have the Imperial 56 elements comm?...well you have a vertical set right?

About fasteners to hopk to wires...since you are so far from town...try using suitable machine bolts...cutting a groove longitudinally...so wire slides through...then run tap..and washer-nut it...just an idea.



Regards



Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

14 awg primary wire came in about 30 minutes ago. looks like i will have a good primary winding weekend. Woo who !



MM

Hey MM

...Hanon is saying that pic is from 8 months ago.
And that you Photoshopped the date....


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Just kidding friend!!

[Cornboy 555]

I think so....why did you do so many turns??!

You really like to wind uh?...

You also could have some response delay...too many winds for small amount of comm elements...
Don't you have the Imperial 56 elements comm?...well you have a vertical set right?

About fasteners to hopk to wires...since you are so far from town...try using suitable machine bolts...cutting a groove longitudinally...so wire slides through...then run tap..and washer-nut it...just an idea.



Regards



Ufopolitics

With that amount of turns i was looking for more inductance for current control, would that many turns make large steps in the wave form?.

No don't have imperial comms, have 36 element MAG3 comms, remember, but flat comms are the way to go for this project.

Would a flat comm with more elements than 16 be a better choice for a smooth more precise wave?.

The patent shows 16 elements, maybe it doesn't matter that much if the wave is stepped?.

Regards Cornboy.


They are available from Eurton but starting to get pricey, and take 2 weeks for me here in AUS.

[Ufopolitics]

With that amount of turns i was looking for more inductance for current control, would that many turns make large steps in the wave form?.

No don't have imperial comms, have 36 element MAG3 comms, remember, but flat comms are the way to go for this project.

Would a flat comm with more elements than 16 be a better choice for a smooth more precise wave?.

The patent shows 16 elements, maybe it doesn't matter that much if the wave is stepped?.

Regards Cornboy.


They are available from Eurton but starting to get pricey, and take 2 weeks for me here in AUS.

Cornboy,

If you already wound it...just test it AS IS...
Please do not take it apart cause of what am saying...


Regards.

[marathonman]

Wave form

The output wave form in secondary will not be stair stepped like the primaries will be. use what you have, test it and you will see and be pleasantly surprised.
don't jump to conclusions like the people on the other thread do before testing. adjustments will always take place. besides your wire and core exposure is way way less than mine so more windings will be needed.
some people on this forum would rather run there mouth then knowing why wide wire was used on this device. apparently a higher degree of core induction/interaction is beyond their intellectual understanding. but of course it is easier to rant and rave instead of doing the actual research.

test then adjust my friend.


MM