Project Camelot / Dr. Brian O'Leary Presentation on F-E Suppression

[quantumuppercut]

Wow, you planned all this out for a while, didn't you?

I think those projects/machines are too much in cost. I've already challenge myself to solve my theory by the end of this year. If we're "oneness", then I see my progress reflects all. I will need all the spare time to think. Until then, no time to rest.

I wish that I have time to experiment with my proposed synchronous magnet motor.

Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet for the first time

I see that Troy Reed magnet motor is this type. This is the only way to prove a perpetual motion machine without too much technical components.

[witsend]

Golly Jibbguy. If you start this company tell me about it. I'd make a small investment.

What's happend to Chukanov? Surely that technology should have been developed by now. Has it progressed? Frankly I have difficulty believing the guy. But it would be really good if these claims are true.

I agree that there'll be some interesting arrangements with magnetic motors. That's where I'd put my money.

Another interesting development is that TK is claiming 70 watts or thereby to generate a really impessive electric fire. Did you see this? It's quite an exotic arrangement. But with TK one never knows.

[jibbguy]

Regarding Dr. Chukanov: He got an important "lesson" i think. Two and a half years ago, in interviews he was saying there was "no suppression", that power utilities & mining interests were working with him to develop his device... But 3 commercial projects he had going died suddenly, and his bona fides, including university records of the jobs he's had and published papers... Disappeared from the records (i believe he still has copies, "W2" tax forms, and witnesses of their being recorded before, though).. So he has changed his mind about that.

Regarding the new TK device... 70 watts for a pilot light is not especially useful. Plasma spark or spark gaps for other applications can be created for about the same or less, certainly with much less circuitry. Constant air arcs are not a means of gaining overunity, from anything i've seen anyway (no matter how cool they look).

You have to understand what he is about (as seen from previous projects): Attempting to fool people into thinking his devices are "really cool" & have great F-E potential...

Then showing them how "stupid" and "naive" they are... His gig is to discredit the people in the Free Energy movement any way he can get away with.

Apparently he gets a kick out of this behavior, considering how much time and money he puts into these endeavors. Or, he is being paid to do it. Either way, the results are the same.

He really should create a website & forum of his own... Since he obviously despises the vast majority of the good folks who are legitimately trying to make a difference in this world by building and studying FE, in these forums... And those who simply believe that there is much yet to learn; that the mainstream won't or can't teach us.

So do not be deceived there, folks: They are hoping you will

[witsend]

Oh Jibbguy - I truly am a hopeless optimist. I've just posted to tell TK how impressed. What I really wanted to say was 'why all the bells and whistles?' and thought better of it. I keep hoping he's changed his mind and decided OU is possible.

Actually I think there should be some tribute paid to the complexities of our apparently 'simple' circuit here. It defeated him. I'm entirely sure of that. And it's got to be a first. Remember those posts 'Be afraid. Be very afraid'. I kept expecting - finally - a calculation. And then - NOTHING. In all the time he worked on our circuit he actually never posted a single power analysis. Amazing. But I do think that Wilby did much to defeat his efforts here and then Harvey stepped in with some first class analysis - which I don't think he was expecting. And you'd need to be fairly reckless to argue that much expertise. Such an adventure.

He's definitely a personality on these forums. Bit prima donna'ish - but colourful.

[jibbguy]

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Changing the subject completely again lol, recently i saw this interview of T. Boone Pickens about his "Plan".

He has refined it a bit and the earlier insistence on Wind Power as being the large part of it apparently has been dropped... And now the thrust is to run 18-wheeler tractor trailer trucks with natural gas instead of Diesel... Lol but he doesn't even want to convert existing trucks, just equip new ones with it. These Tractors are huge investments well over $200k.. And are expected to last many years before replacement.

He appears, imo, to be trying to increase the demand for natural gas. As stated clearly there; he is on the board of British Petroleum (BP Capital Investments to be specific). Therefor he cannot be said to to be operating without personal motive. BP, through subsidiaries, is one of the largest operators of gas wells in the US.

As he stated here, natural gas production has actually lessened in the last few years significantly...

Interesting... As those who use it for home heating have seen big rises in price during this period. This would appear to be deliberate manipulation of the market: Creating an artificially lower supply, simply by shutting down rigs (the majority of which are already drilled, tapped, and connecting by piping thus requiring little to operate them and giving even LESS reason NOT to operate them)... So the lower supply is "bare cover" for charging the Consumer considerably more money for energy they MUST have in winter to keep from freezing.

"Newsmax TV" interview with Pickens vid (half way down the page):

Oil could hit $300 a barrel says Pickens

Another example of how the energy corporations skirt or outright flaunt the laws for Anti-Trust, Stock Manipulation, and Securities Fraud.

[jibbguy]

New Michelson-Morley Replication Shows Anomaly !!

This one is fascinating.

The Michelson-Morley experiment was first done in 1887 at what is now Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, OH. It had great importance because it helped end the "old" concept of an "active aether"... And ushered in a century-long belief in the "empty vacuum" (..which was proven wrong by the existence of Zero Point Energy.. whether the mainstream has adjusted Theory for it yet or not).

When rotating the device in the vertical axis, this German researcher's experiment shows significant light movement.

YouTube - Extended Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment. English version

[ashtweth]

Thx a lot Jib, added the new Claus on there too, any thing more you want on this page just let me know you can add what ever content there any time M8.. Ps, rendering the new 10 hour FE suppression compilation, will add Claus and this experiment vids in the video production too, great work M8. Also added the facebook stuff there and on the uni.

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[jibbguy]

Sibel Edmonds: Hero of the People

Thanks M8.

You are always welcome to anything i've got: That is the Open Source way

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And now for something completely different lol:

Hmm, if any of you think that the concept of our corporate-owned mainstream media is completely controlled is just a "conspiracy theory"...

Listen to this ("Part 3" there at the site cuts to the chase).

The fact that NONE of the corporate-owned mainstream media in the US will even mention this story, proves the case. This is all highly illegal: If competitors collude together to not cover a story, that is "fixing". If this story ever got out NOW, these corporations who own media outlets, like General Electric, would be forced to sell them to independent owners, and their executives would be SENT TO JAIL FOR TREASON!!!

It just happens that they are also suppressing important Free Energy technologies too, lol (which is also illegal). So that is my bare reason for posting it here lol.

Below is a radio interview with Sibel Edmonds, a former FBI translator, who is telling truly explosive testimony IN COURT about blackmail, Capital Treason, bribery, and deliberate lies and suppression over 9/11 .



> Dennis Haskert, the former SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, who retired 3 years ago with no explanation, took over half a million dollars in bribes. So did many other Congresspersons (several of them Democrats, too).

> A famous woman Democrat Congressperson was blackmailed over a lesbian affair that was videotaped... Apparently they sent a hooker over to seduce her, then filmed the whole thing in her own house (which was illegally bugged). Was this Congressperson's initials "N.P."? Sibel isn't saying yet lol (i think she is smart enough to hold that one for later, to get some deals going for creating investigative Congressional panels to blow the whole thing open).

> Selling of nuclear secrets to Islamic countries, and the black market. there is no doubt, that this is "Capital Treason", the only thing that still rates the death penalty in the Federal system.

> Lying over 9/11 .. How the FBI knew all about what was happening well in advance and did nothing. And how she was gagged and fired over it (already proved in Congressional Hearings 6 years ago, and the FBI forced to admit it was all true).

You know, several people could be sent to the Firing Squad over this (i think the military still uses that in Capital Treason executions, but not sure).

THIS NEEDS TO BE WIDE-BANDED... Tell all the folks you know about Sibel Edmonds and ask them to check it out for themselves.

[jibbguy]

Jane Burgermeister Interview at Project Camelot

This is World Heroine day here on the thread lol.

Besides our own Rosemary hehehe ,

... And the above very brave and dedicated Sibel Edwards... Here is a new one:

Jane Burgermeister of Austria. She has worked tirelessly to expose the extreme dangers of the swine flu vaccine; and to file charges to get this issue into Court so it can be studied on the record.

The pharmaceutical giant Baxter tried to distribute 2 kilos of vaccine that was infected with live bird virus... Only the vigilance of healthcare people in the Czech Republic discovered this.

Nothing happened to Baxter over that... NOTHING AT ALL... Doing something that defies logic in how it could have happened in the first place, and that could have caused a world pandemic and killed hundreds of millions.

Now, THEIR vaccines are being shipped all over the world, and the World Health Organization is planning to force a world-wide vaccination, that would be enforced by law. Those that refuse to be inoculated, will be incarcerated.

In the advent of a "level 6" Pandemic... Then the World Health Organization automatically has CONTROL OVER ALL POLICE AND MILITARIES IN EVERY COUNTRY.

Huh?? Yeah, check it out.

Ms. Burgermeister has tried to fight this in many ways, including contacting the FBI and giving them the evidence she has collected, and attempting to file a Complaint against Baxter. The FBI has so far refused to do anything, they even deny receiving the information. Ms. Burgermeister has PROOF to the contrary, the FBI is lying about it. In her home country of Austria she has filed charges which were ignored... But the head of the Health Ministry and the head of the Police have both been forced resigned over this in the last month, and were replaced by more loyal minions.

Project Camelot Interview with Jane Burgermeister

YouTube - Project Camelot interviews Jane Burgermeister

It is quite an eye-opener.

... And near 24:30, she said she formerly worked in the mainstream media, that it was fully controlled, and was aware of specific instances of their suppressing Free Energy.


Q: If they force us by law to be vaccinated here in the US... Will you comply?

Lol, i sure as hell won't. Her data has scared the pants off me. She appears very credible and sincere imo; but everyone is going to have to decide this one for themselves.

[witsend]

Jane Burgermeister paints a bleak outlook. As I see it - if the need is to reduce the global population - and if this is to be done through the spread of any 'flues' at all - then it is only necessary to infect somthing less than 1% of the population if not even less than this. Why embark on a global immunisation project? Unless the actual intention here is to inject that 'chip' so that some central body can hold everyone accountable on all aspects of their lives. But is there a chip developed that can survive - long term - in the human body? I just don't know. Maybe if it were somehow planted into soft tissue. But the spread of disease never requires more than the infection of a few people in every continent. Surely? And if the immunisation project actually works then the entire world population would be killed off - with the possible exception of those that wish to rule. Don't these world 'rulers' also want servants and service?

Or is the thinking here that the flu 'strain' can only be developed through the immunisation project? Presumably then the thinking is that the 'controllers' avoid getting injected? It seems diabolical if it is true. I was particularly drawn to her description of society that enjoys the 'habit of obedience'. This much I entirely identified with, especially as it relates to what we must think.

But I must admit I found her argument confusing. Perhaps someone can elaborate on this? Clearly I'm missing something.

[jibbguy]

Thats a highly controversial subject to be sure

The main thing that bothers me is Baxter has not been required to explain how they could possibly make such a incredibly dangerous blunder (..shipping out over 2 Kilos of vaccine tainted with live bird virus), when their procedures in place should have caught it easily. Frankly, it was criminal in actuality, if not in intent; and it's very clear that if they were not a giant trans-nat corporation with huge lobbyist influence, they certainly would have faced serious consequences... NOTHING has happened to them at all over the event.
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Here is something very interesting about new photographic evidence of life on Mars.

From Dr. Tom Van Flandern; an astronomer who has worked steadily as a consultant to NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab for two decades. Dr. Van Flandern also spent 20 years at the U.S. Naval Observatory, where he became the Chief of the Celestial Mechanics Branch.

In this vid he shows that the famous "face" on Mars is actually an artificial archaeological artifact after all; there are at least two of these "faces", and that there are several other anomalies such as triangular shapes , "tee" shapes, and triangular monoliths. And things that may be "trees".

It is also interesting to see how he debunked the debunkers: Revealing how the original 1998 photos were "shopped" by NASA to eliminate the famous "face"; and how it does in fact exist.

YouTube - Life On MARS? - New Scientific Evidence

It's kinda hard to laugh away this guy, or his data.


I have no idea what this all means but it sure would seem that we have been lied to (again lol).

[jibbguy]

Many of you have seen this already, but it's so good it needed another link

the Power of Comformity: Candid Camera

YouTube - The Power of Conformity

[witsend]

Power of conformity. That had me rolling. Thanks Jibbguy.

[jibbguy]

The use of "Fear" as a mechanism of control

I am disturbed when i see opinions expressed lately regarding the safety and "wisdom" of implementing Free Energy. These statements are aimed at us in the Open Source Energy movement, and to many others who embrace and study F-E technologies... As an implied threat and warning.

This opinion and attitude, imo, is just another attempt to STOP the release of free energy to the world. We have been bombarded off and on for a while now by these messages of fear regarding the world-wide Release of new F-E technologies that would provide cheap, safe, and clean energy. It's time to address these ideas, and send them back to where they came from.

They say this:

> That Free Energy is too dangerous, that terrorists will get a hold of it and somehow use it.

Actually, this is quite wrong thinking. There are ALREADY extremely dangerous technologies or devices & materials out there, explosives of all types, biological weapons of all types, deadly chemicals of all types... All available at the same technological level as a free energy device would be. There are airplanes, ships, trucks, shipping containers, all kinds of transportation methods ALREADY available for doing evil. And none of these horrible methods of committing murder and destruction have anything at all to do with free energy.

It is a fact that when guns aren't available.. People kill their fellows with knives or other means quite efficiently. And we certainly have enough means now to destroy the planet, without F-E... Especially when we see our own CONGRESS MEMBERS SELLING NUCLEAR SECRETS ON THE BLACK MARKET (see above links on Sibel Edmonds).

Does anyone here really think that it will matter if a suicide bomber uses an "all-magnet motor" for his truck bomb, instead of a Diesel? Lol is he going to care about having to pay for the $20 for fuel an hour before he blows himself up? Is the LACK of free energy going to stop him from doing ANYTHING he would usually do?

Of course not.

These questions of "safety" are meant to create pointless and baseless fear... And are last-ditch attempts to convince us to "self-regulate", to stop us from continuing research on our own... Because some realize now, that it is the only way they CAN stop us.

In one way, we can be glad to see these kinds of attacks on Free Energy: It is a sign of desperation... An admission that this is coming whether they want it to or not... Because the people who will be bringing it out around the planet are outside of their control... They have "taken the Red Pill" ; and have seen through their lies.

They also say this:

> That we cannot allow it to happen because it would cause "chaos".

This is wrong-headed thinking as well. Chaos to who? To the people in the towns, cities and countryside who will demand it? No. Folks are reasonable enough to expect a couple years for it to be rolled-out and manufactured in sufficient quantities... And people like us will help that along with Open Source home manufacture. But where the real "danger" here lies, is that once they know about it, the people WILL INSIST on it being pursued ASAP. As long as it is honestly pursued, and the plans for roll-out fully publicized and are plausible, there would be no chaos with citizens... The roll-out would transition peacefully. But the leaders can't screw around, it MUST happen. Will they? Hard to say. But it it likely they will, because having less control is better than having it ALL taken away from them, which is the inevitable result if they are found to be suppressing something that would both stop the destruction of our planet, and raise up Humanity.

And that is what they truly hate, and fear: Losing their power, losing their profits, losing their excuses for eternal war, losing their reasons for insuring the vast majority of the world's population lives in poverty, hunger, thirst... And ignorance. Free Energy FREES these people to become middle class... It allows them to be fed, educated, lifted up to a new level of prosperity... Which BTW, is also the very best & proven method of controlling population growth... By increasing prosperity.

So WHO would see the chaos then?? Those who were formerly in control of EVERY aspect of our lives: Those that now control the scarcity of energy, who now levee a secret tax that we all pay on energy.. Higher than any other tax we pay. So screw them: The fact is, they deserve to be in prison... For Anti-Trust Law violation, stock manipulation, and price fixing. Why should we care about THEM? They will be GONE, their power broken, once free energy releases. For the VAST BENEFIT of Humankind.

Giant trans-national corporations, like GENERAL ELECTRIC, will indeed see great chaos. They will have to actually honestly compete in the market again... Something they haven't had to do in DECADES. They buy up their serious competitors, force them out, buy up and shelve important technologies to protect their markets, make secret deals with others to share markets. But all that will be over... A small independent company with Free Energy tech can steal their markets, and send them to the junk yard of hell. GOOD. They deserve to "die", because they have proved themselves to be sociopaths more interested in lining their own pockets, and holding utter control over our media (G.E owns "NBC television network").. Instead of being good citizens and protecting our planet from destruction. Why should we have any pity for them..? Good folks work for GE at the lower levels, but manufacturing will be booming and there will be plenty of jobs. That corporation can be split into several different entities (..each with ownership belonging to the country the plant is located in), and none of the employees, except the CRIMINALS at the top, need be hurt by it.

We can have REAL FREE MARKET capitalism. Not the garbage they try to sell now, which is Socialism for THEM AT THE TOP... And hard-scrabble capitalism for everyone else.

The Free Energy roll-out will provide this: Thousands of new entrepreneurs breaking down the old markets under the control of the trans-nat corps; that have remained secretly controlled and stagnant for decades. What this will also do, is "steal back" the control of our economy from the thieves, pick-pockets, and degenerate gamblers of Wall Street... And bring it back to Main Street where it belongs. And this needs to happen soon: Before ALL of our pensions, 401K's, and investments are blatantly stolen. Or before they pull another criminal Commodities fraud like they did last year with the "Oil Price Bubble", or another phony & planned bank collapse to rob us of Trillions more. With a new economy based on manufacturing again... They can't do it: Capital is tied up in building factories, buying new machines, growing. Not in Hedge Funds that pay-off only in recessions when everyone else loses.

So we can take pride of accomplishment in that we running them scared now. They are changing their story from: "It's all a load of crap, your all nut-jobs"... To: ""Its too dangerous!" (lol notice they are admitting it IS REAL after-all). Attempting to use FEAR where DERISION failed before. Good luck with that, lol... They will gain no success there either.

We need to understand that whatever "negatives" come from a roll-out of free energy are NOTHING compared to the benefits to Humankind... And are certainly nothing to fear. What are these baseless scare-tactics compared to having the benefits of gaining ONE THIRD of our disposable cash available for other things besides lining the pockets of energy cartels and privately-owned power utilities? To having A REAL SAY in the direction of our own lives... Being able to say NO to economic slavery, to the end of worker's rights and unions, being able to tell the trans-nat corporations to go away, leave us alone: You have disgraced yourselves, and your era is OVER! These baseless fears over F-E are nothing compared to that. Because when the planet changes, when the starving are fed, the deserts turned into farm fields, when pollution is stopped COLD... Great good will be done, and wisdom will grow and prevail... Humankind will have "Grown Up" ; and left the angst and confused hormones of adolescence behind.

Finally

[jibbguy]

Greer's Presentation & the "Leadership" gambit

Many of you have seen this already, but it is interesting and worth while nonetheless. Some of the things said here need serious discussion within the Community... Dr. Greer does not speak for all of us, and it is important to understand that he & Orion does not yet embrace the principals of Open Source (please understand it is ACTIONS not words that matter here).

BTW: One point of interest stated there is that Orion was apparently not successful in gaining the Stanley Meyer tech... I find this odd since it was touted on their site earlier this year as a "done deal".
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Dr. Greer's recent presentation on Free Energy suppression:

Dr. Steven Greer The Promise of New Energy Video

It is quite interesting. Although "Orion Project" does not yet really embrace Open Source... They keep all their F-E information very close and tell NOTHING about it... We are hoping that in the future this will change

The reason that is important is this: The way to get F-E released successfully is widespread world-wide replication (making it too hard to suppress). For this, Orion NEEDS the Open Source community. If any of you are members of Orion, i would urge you to please point this out in comments & letters. Also point out, that the way to do this is to remain...

DE-CENTRALIZED.. NO LEADERS.

"Leaders" mean distrust and schism; and having leaders makes it easy to derail the entire thing. We don't need "Chiefs" for this: We need "Warriors". Meaning that folks who are able to build a thousand replications in their homes and garages that will be beyond their ability to stop.

I think this thingie about Leaders is very important. If Greer gained leadership, or anyone else, then what would happen if a portion of this community decided in the future, that he was somehow co-opted and corrupted.. That he had been "Gotten To" and changed? Whether it was true or not, it creates a large divide... We cannot allow schism, when what is needed is to move forward with ALL the resources we have available.

So that is why i would claim here that the above video of Greer's is a move towards gaining this "Leadership". He appears to likely be setting himself up for this leadership role as "The Leader of the Free Energy Movement".

It should be resisted: Not that i have any personal worries or problems about him, but that i have worries about ANYONE gaining such a "Leadership" role. And so should all of you!!

We are all adults, we don't need "bosses" here to shepard us or to tell us what to do. We KNOW what needs to be done. When the time is right, when the tech is ready, IT WILL get done. This is how we succeed: By keeping this de-centralized, and independent... And immune to derailment by infiltration and a coup at the top. Good God, when you look at all that is at stake here.. Does anyone think they WON'T try to stop it? Why give them a easy target to aim for?

Sure, this is a "different" idea that goes against all we ever see at work, school, government... Even our families. Lol, but so is EVERYTHING else about this

Anyway, i think it is worthy of discussion... I'm not looking to debate / argument but for different ideas for us to consider. I don't pretend to know all the answers, or to speak for anyone but myself. But no one else... Here or at Orion or anywhere else.... Speaks for ME either.. And i plan to keep it that way