High Voltage from Thin Air?

[juju]

off topic:

Acapella version of "SO GET UP",

.................................................. .....

THE END OF THE EARTH IS UPON US
PRETTY SOON ITLL ALL TURN TO DUST

SO GET UP
FORGET THE PAST

GO OUTSIDE
HAVE A BLAST

GO A THOUSAND MILES IN A JET AIRPLANE
GO OUT OF YOUR MIND GO INSANE

TO A PLACE YOU NEVER BEEN BEFORE
EAT ICE CREAM OUR YOULL LICK THE FLOOR

CUZ, THE END OF THE EARTH IS UPON US
PRETTY SOON ITLL ALL TURN TO DUST


fun forest, run!!

[tammy 123]

I wonder if other schematics of a chaos generator will work similarly to SEC?..
They sure are hard to come by...

ABC

I am too wondering about this and finding the ways of how the chaos generator works as, I have different reviews about this generator but, not getting any active review on its working that is somewhere similar to SEC.

I will try to get some reviews from my reference and let you know, if I go something.

Thanks

[Shamus]

Thank you Dr. Conrad, and please give my regards to Dr. Stiffler. I would just like to convey my appreciation for the work that you and Dr. Stiffler are doing and I will be watching very closely over the coming months.

[amigo]

@conradphd

Why is Doc not available any more? Has something happened to him or he just chooses not to interact with us no more?

Also, if you are going to publish info on SS website, I think it will be much more useful if everything is put into PDFs. It will make it easy to download and we won't have to spider the website all the time.

Lastly, why not just make DIYs and not just information papers. You are going all the way anyway so document the construction process as well as the theoretical part. Most people will not have the time to dwell into their own research if/when something happens, for numerous reasons.

If your goal is to truly help everyone then spell it all out. This is not school and trying to "spark" someone's interest to study on their own, while a catastrophy is potentially looming is simply not gonna work.

Just my free and unsolicited comments.

[conradphd]

Very Important Video

Dr. Stiffler ask that I post this and have done so for all to see. We had a very hard time getting this video onto YouTube for some reason and it still is not linked up properly for again some strange reason.

Gentleman you will see a video that is wireless electrolysis using a single diode for the emission electrodes. Please pay special attention to the gas liberated (i.e.) H and O. You will also see that the maximum potential across the diode in the forward direction is far below the threshold for Faraday Electrolysis. This particular setup is able under some minor containment changes to produce and support a active flame front from the evolved gas.

Again this is totally wireless as no wires or power source is directly connected to the emission diode. The SEC Exciter is only used to bias the operation as can be seen in the very small coupling to the media via the copper tape around the tube.

This process will support hundreds of diodes all mounted in the electrolyte as shown in this video.

YouTube - MUST SEE AND SAVE THIS IMPORTANT VIDEO!

[HairBear]

Thank you conradphd and Dr. Stiffler! I am curious about a couple of statements the good doctor made in his latest video. He claims it is electrolysis and also states "we definitely do not have the normal mixture of hydrogen and oxygen". What is the mixture resulted from this experiment? If the mixture is not the same as electrolysis, why would I assume the process Dr. Stiffler is showing to be electrolysis? If my memory serves me correctly, he has shown this once or twice before with similar experiments. Is it possible we are seeing a sort of optical illusion due to the small size of the electrodes? I love these electrolysis experiments! I hope we see more in the near future!

[Lidmotor]

Replication of Dr. Stiffler's diode electrolysis experiment

@All
I used my SEC 15-3 exciter and got a replication of Dr. Stiffler's latest electrolysis experiment. I have no idea what this means but it must be very important for Doc to want us to make a copy of his last video and put it in a safe place.
This arrangement appears to be making one gas off one end of the diode.
Here is the video of my experiment:

YouTube - Replication of SEC electrolysis experiment.ASF

Lidmotor

[ashtweth]

Doc's back with a new paradigm shifting demo..,check his channel and subscribe please

[DrStiffler]

@All
I used my SEC 15-3 exciter and got a replication of Dr. Stiffler's latest electrolysis experiment. I have no idea what this means but it must be very important for Doc to want us to make a copy of his last video and put it in a safe place.
This arrangement appears to be making one gas off one end of the diode.
Here is the video of my experiment:

YouTube - Replication of SEC electrolysis experiment.ASF

Lidmotor

@lidmotor
Thank you for the demo and replication. I just had to answer this as I rolled over when I listened to your audio. I want to state my 'SECs' which sounds like 'SEX' has not changed. LOL!

Now for some facts behind this;

1. Current (general) knowledge states there is a minimum voltage that must be presented to the electrodes to produce electrolysis. This is a generalized statement because of course there is differences that come into yfrom electrode type, shape, distance between, electrolyte and temperature to name a few factors.

2. To address the statement by 'carebear', I have never shown a demo that did not at least have one electrode connected to some source. I have shown single wire and wireless, but all have had physical connection to the external world.

3. Single gas release. Where in the literature can one fine a reference to just evolving say H2? of O?. I have shown singl gas release before yet not in a simple form such as my last video.

4. This is very important work and it is all going to be public domain if possible. I have been very busy in many different directions and this need a few more explanations that are forth coming, YT allowing.

5. There is a specific frequency that MUST be present for this to work. That is 6.35 to 6.8MHz and 6.5mHz being optimal. This frequency must have the highest energy content of all the emissions from the exciters. A minimum of 1W must be used and I will later talk in video about the W/m required.

Yes this can be done with a single frequency generator that can supply the
energy density required.

6. Distance from excitation to diodes of course is part of the density required. You can not just stick a diode in the center of a big container and obtain good results, remember that you will need W/m specification.

Please copy and save all of the information.....

[DrStiffler]

Thank you conradphd and Dr. Stiffler! I am curious about a couple of statements the good doctor made in his latest video. He claims it is electrolysis and also states "we definitely do not have the normal mixture of hydrogen and oxygen". What is the mixture resulted from this experiment? If the mixture is not the same as electrolysis, why would I assume the process Dr. Stiffler is showing to be electrolysis? If my memory serves me correctly, he has shown this once or twice before with similar experiments. Is it possible we are seeing a sort of optical illusion due to the small size of the electrodes? I love these electrolysis experiments! I hope we see more in the near future!

Please see Stiffler Scientific, down at the bottom of the home page for still pictures. See if you sstill think it is an illusion.

SGGS -- Spatial, Gas Generation System

[digitz]

Amazing pictures DrStiffler, those sort of mist waves are very intriguing
Have you analyzed the gas going out ? (i imagined it to be similar to your precedent videos where you burn the produced gas)
Maybe you have some idea or theory about this sort of mist/waves (i don't know how to call it other way).

Thanks in all cases for sharing with everyone! Lidmotor, great replication!

[Lidmotor]

SEC tuning ---As always--critical

@Dr. Stiffler----Thanks for the kind comments about my replication and the explanation about what is going on. I went over to your web site and looked at the pictures. My experiment looked like yours except that I have not tried multiple diodes yet.

I did not succeed with this replication right away and had to fiddle around with different L3 coils and tuning until I lucked into the right combination. I did not look at the frequency but I did look at the amp draw and it was pretty high like you said. My poor little MPSA06 was getting pretty warm even with the heat sink. Use of an AV plug LED indicator and an amp meter was very helpful once I found the frequency.

The placement of the metal band has to be close to the diode like you said for this to work. I had it up around the middle of the glass at first and got no results.

I am wondering what that milky white substance coming off the bottom of the diode is. The outer coating on that wire is being removed by the electrolysis and that may be what it is. It is probably the tin coating that is being eaten away. I hope that the copper doesn't go also or we may have a problem.

@All
If anyone else can replicate this and post a quick video it will help protect Dr. Stiffler's work.
We don't want to lose this.

Lidmotor

[conradphd]

@Dr. Stiffler----Thanks for the kind comments about my replication and the explanation about what is going on. I went over to your web site and looked at the pictures. My experiment looked like yours except that I have not tried multiple diodes yet.

I did not succeed with this replication right away and had to fiddle around with different L3 coils and tuning until I lucked into the right combination. I did not look at the frequency but I did look at the amp draw and it was pretty high like you said. My poor little MPSA06 was getting pretty warm even with the heat sink. Use of an AV plug LED indicator and an amp meter was very helpful once I found the frequency.

The placement of the metal band has to be close to the diode like you said for this to work. I had it up around the middle of the glass at first and got no results.

I am wondering what that milky white substance coming off the bottom of the diode is. The outer coating on that wire is being removed by the electrolysis and that may be what it is. It is probably the tin coating that is being eaten away. I hope that the copper doesn't go also or we may have a problem.

@All
If anyone else can replicate this and post a quick video it will help protect Dr. Stiffler's work.
We don't want to lose this.

Lidmotor

Mr. (Lidmotor)

Please revisit the SS Site and look at the bottom of the home page for a link of what will be a document on this work. We hope to have this document on the web site and published within the week and hope all will make copies as it changes during the development. Please understand that this is important and only one part of the projects we are working on for the problems that are in all of our futures. We have a page on the site for the Bio-Sand Water Filter which we feel is very important and in addition we have a document coming on binary toxins in our environment which we believe were placed here on purpose just waiting to be triggered.

As Dr. Stiffler says, maybe 2012 will be most eventful but what leads up to 2012 will be a total state of hell on earth and we must begin to prepare for existence without public water, food, electricity, natural gas and without doubt gas for transportation. We must build and have available systems to support our most basic needs and plan on using those system well into the latter part of 2013. Dr. Stiffler and I fully believe the population of the world will decrease over the next three years and only the strong shall remain on this earth of ours unless a miracle takes place and the people are awakened to what is taking place.

[DrStiffler]

@Dr. Stiffler----Thanks for the kind comments about my replication and the explanation about what is going on. I went over to your web site and looked at the pictures. My experiment looked like yours except that I have not tried multiple diodes yet.

I did not succeed with this replication right away and had to fiddle around with different L3 coils and tuning until I lucked into the right combination. I did not look at the frequency but I did look at the amp draw and it was pretty high like you said. My poor little MPSA06 was getting pretty warm even with the heat sink. Use of an AV plug LED indicator and an amp meter was very helpful once I found the frequency.

The placement of the metal band has to be close to the diode like you said for this to work. I had it up around the middle of the glass at first and got no results.

I am wondering what that milky white substance coming off the bottom of the diode is. The outer coating on that wire is being removed by the electrolysis and that may be what it is. It is probably the tin coating that is being eaten away. I hope that the copper doesn't go also or we may have a problem.

@All
If anyone else can replicate this and post a quick video it will help protect Dr. Stiffler's work.
We don't want to lose this.

Lidmotor

@lidmotor
Indeed the right frequency is required, seems like I'm always saying that does it not? Anyway yes it must be correct for the operation to take place and I am surprised you were able to replicate without knowing that and being able to adjust to the proper point. One can indeed use a LED load while the process takes place. I have not shown that, but indeed a 48 LED board can be driven to full brightness at the same time you are producing gas (hint).

The White clouds that form are indeed from the metals in the diode leads as there is a metal transport taking place along with the H2 release. The cathode (striped) end of the diodes will degrade as the process takes place, to such a point that the metal is totally dissolved. There are a few things that have yet to be worked out as can be seen as one works with the SGGS process.

I might add for all that my replicated this that the web site has a SA picture of the proper drive to the cells. Also be aware that the diode anode lead is shorter than the cathode lead. If you look at the gas release of a diode with the normal long lead, you will see that the primary release point is closest to the glass body of the diode. As one moves away from the diode body down the lead, one will see less and less gas evolving. There is a rule of thumb one can use. Have the anode 0.5 times the length of the cathode.

I did not say the exciter should draw high current!. The small copper heat sinks we have always used will just be (warm) to the touch. If you are drawing heavy current then you are operating the process on a harmonic rather than the base required frequency. This may be the case as I see you are using the normal L3 and this has a much different self-resonance from the larger coils I use for L3's. Yes, the process will work on a harmonic, although not as well.

Distilled water is best, although the gas release is lower than if you use tap water (which fouls greatly). The smaller release can be overcome by the addition of more diodes, heck 1 cent each is a small price to pay.

There is indeed a fix for the plating problem and that will be in the web site paper soon.

Oh, yes what you may have taken as high current from the exciter may be the statement that you will need to maintain a specific W/m2 (Watts/Per Square Meter) power density to cause the operation. In truth this is uW/m2 and will all be explained soon.

Thanks again for the replication and you are a great inventive mind to be able to put this into motion from such little information.

[Lidmotor]

The SEC electrolysis experiment using four diodes

@Dr. Stiffler--- I ran the experiment again using four diodes this time and it worked like you said it would with no additional draw but more gas production. This time I did take a look at the frequency and I am at 8.33 mhz--not exactlly where I should be. I could not get my crude setup to resonate at the frequency you indicated. My L3 may not be right. It did work enough to show the effect however and I consider it a success.

Here is the video of the experiment:

YouTube - SEC four diode electrolysis experiment.ASF

Lidmotor