This is why we don't have free energy

[GSM]

Now Duncan where do you suppose were going to put all these fat happy people breeding like freaking rats and consuming all the rapidly dwindling natural resources.
Your barking up the wrong tree pal because what you want is to destroy the planet, the American dream.

No Allcanadian.
Duncan wishes to save the planet from being destroyed by pollution from increasingly serious, self appointed PTB and their fuel related taxation schemes and disasters.

This is quite separate from essential population control regulation which TPTB appear to regulate via wars, disasters and pollution instead of education and regulated birth control.

But then all of this is how they are implementing their own NWO, isn't it !

Cheers ............ Graham.

[Allcanadian]

@GSM

Duncan wishes to save the planet from being destroyed by pollution from increasingly serious, self appointed PTB and their fuel related taxation schemes and disasters.

You mean tptb created pollution?, wow that is an interesting fact. Here I thought it was from all us people buying useless **** we don't need and consuming everything in sight like a herd of locusts. Well I might just go out and buy a new Dodge 4x4 hemi and add on to the house if tptb are always to blame for everything.

This is quite separate from essential population control regulation which TPTB appear to regulate via wars, disasters and pollution instead of education and regulated birth control.

In the last two years more people were born than all those who died in every war in the history of mankind. I mean if this is their idea of population control then wow there doing a really bad job of it. I would suggest you google World Population Clock, it's kind of like a giant egg timer and at some point soon I imagine it's going to need a flip. You see regardless of what we say or believe we are judged solely by our actions. We are destroying the planet and yes we will be held accountable.

But then all of this is how they are implementing their own NWO, isn't it !

I think the real issue is that good honest hard working people just want to make a living however their "making a living" is destroying the planet. We know this as fact and no government is going to make them stop because they elect the government. So what is the solution?, someone must regulate all governments to keep them from destroying each other and the planet. It seems like the only answer in my opinion because we the people and the governments we elect have shown themselves to be incompetent through our actions.

So go ahead rage at the machine if it makes you feel better but I think we all know who is to blame don't we?, everyone is so maybe it's time to man-up and take responsibility for our actions rather than childish finger pointing.

AC

[GSM]

@GSM
So what is the solution?, someone must regulate all governments to keep them from destroying each other and the planet. It seems like the only answer in my opinion because we the people and the governments we elect have shown themselves to be incompetent through our actions.
AC

It is the unregulatable behind their own 'governments' who have agendas quite separate from what 'we-the-people' are led to expect via elections; with taxation and manipulated currencies being how they plunder to self fund !

Solution ? Look after ourselves for food and

energy.

Cheers ............... Graham.

[adurer]

let's get back ON-topic for a while. it has been said that real free energy projects (more or less open source) are buried under a pile of fake projects that only waste people's time and resources. I tend to agree with that since it's the only way vested interests can ruin the relative freedom of speech and information exchange on the internet. every research forum is infiltrated with low life deceivers or script-bots, including this one...

anyways, what I would like you to ask is this: what free energy projects are genuine, viable, efficient in practice? in other words, what free energy project is more likely capable to teach people how to build their own 'box' to power their house and their car? note: I'm not referring to solar, wind or water power.

let's see who is a deceiver and who is not.

[Matthew Jones]

let's get back ON-topic for a while......

let's see who is a deceiver and who is not.

Farmhand, Duncan, and UFO. All you have to do is see the progression of the conversation on this Thread. FarmHand changes the subject and post info that is not pertinent to the conversation. Immediately Duncan in all his FAT drunk glory jumps on the opportunity to keep the material at hand flowing and add more non pertinent information. Then right behind him is UFO and his re enforcement of all of Duncan's illiterate info..
Then challenged they immediately jump. Farmhand who is halfway smart about his mis info runs away. Duncan who is full himself continues to post MORE inadequate proof that he is some how more informed than the rest of us, and UFO he tries to maintain his innocence because he is a coward like Farmhand, but his mouth gets the best of him and he can't help but to run it.

Who out of the 3 of them, have work that has been replicated? Well UFO has mislead alot of people into believing something must be special about his motors, when they are just run of the Junk. Farmhand is just poison who will make unbelievers out of anybody who tries, no work to speak of.. But Duncan take the cake. No creditable work every produce for the thousands of words he has conjugated in to paragraphs of completely useless info. None NOTTA NOTHING!!! Has ever come of that drink fools ramblings. Just useless over posting of old and non prove able materials.

If you pay attention to any one of them you lose.

Cheers
Matt

[Ufopolitics]

Done with this joint?

Matt,

First you wrote:

How bout you low life's mention the name of some one you know who died at the trade center? Or on one of the plane's? What?? You don't know anyone.....Hmmm. Ya'll got alot nerve. I knew I was in the company of scum bags But DUNCAN and UFO, Ya'll take the cake. Pure F****n Trash.

Done with this joint.
Matt

I thought You were "Done with this Joint"?...I understand that means you quit...you left...are you mad because we all did not say...Goodbye Matt?

But no, You came back...

Farmhand, Duncan, and UFO. All you have to do is see the progression of the conversation on this Thread. FarmHand changes the subject and post info that is not pertinent to the conversation. Immediately Duncan in all his FAT drunk glory jumps on the opportunity to keep the material at hand flowing and add more non pertinent information. Then right behind him is UFO and his re enforcement of all of Duncan's illiterate info..
Then challenged they immediately jump. Farmhand who is halfway smart about his mis info runs away. Duncan who is full himself continues to post MORE inadequate proof that he is some how more informed than the rest of us, and UFO he tries to maintain his innocence because he is a coward like Farmhand, but his mouth gets the best of him and he can't help but to run it.

Who out of the 3 of them, have work that has been replicated? Well UFO has mislead alot of people into believing something must be special about his motors, when they are just run of the Junk. Farmhand is just poison who will make unbelievers out of anybody who tries, no work to speak of.. But Duncan take the cake. No creditable work every produce for the thousands of words he has conjugated in to paragraphs of completely useless info. None NOTTA NOTHING!!! Has ever come of that drink fools ramblings. Just useless over posting of old and non prove able materials.

If you pay attention to any one of them you lose.

Cheers
Matt

..Wow! , I honestly like your imagination and creativity to advertise the work and expertise of the three of Us together in so short amount of words to Member Adurer...Am pretty sure He is impressed and would be checking Us out soon!

Thanks Man!

Do You want me to tell Adurer about Your awesome Methods on "How to Easily and cheaply get Electrocuted with HV"?

I honestly believe you should write a book about this...may be a Best Seller...talk to Aaron about it!

How is your chest doing?...still recuperating from those shocks?



After all I would have missed Ya if you go man...I mean, your rants that characterize you always here.


Warm Regards


Your Dear Friend UFO

[Farmhand]

let's get back ON-topic for a while. it has been said that real free energy projects (more or less open source) are buried under a pile of fake projects that only waste people's time and resources. I tend to agree with that since it's the only way vested interests can ruin the relative freedom of speech and information exchange on the internet. every research forum is infiltrated with low life deceivers or script-bots, including this one...

anyways, what I would like you to ask is this: what free energy projects are genuine, viable, efficient in practice? in other words, what free energy project is more likely capable to teach people how to build their own 'box' to power their house and their car? note: I'm not referring to solar, wind or water power.

let's see who is a deceiver and who is not.

Ok, then considering those criteria -no wind - solar - hydro. I would say that the Devices of The Kunel Patent, the devices of Mr Wesley Gary and Hans Coler would be a good place to start.

And good luck .

..

[Duncan]

Ranting Matt ..

Me illiterate ? Perhaps but then I'm not the pot who's calling the kettle black, am I ?

Quote Matt
But Duncan take the cake. No creditable work every produce for the thousands of words he has conjugated in to paragraphs of completely useless info. None NOTTA NOTHING!!! Has ever come of that drink fools ramblings. Just useless over posting of old and non prove able materials.

Let me correct this very 'literate' vitriolic paragraph you have decided to write to me. As best I may, time permitting,

But Duncan takes the cake. No creditable work ever produced after thousands of words that he has conjugated in to paragraphs of completely useless information. (None NOTTA NOTHING!!!) double negative and some unknown 'NOTTA' triple exclamation marks not required. Incorrect use of capitals best replaced by 'nothing' It is also incorrect to use an exclamation mark in the middle of a sentence with out parenthesis (!) so that sentence should read, 'Nothing has ever come come out of that drunken drink is something you do, drunken is a state. fools ramblings. Incorrect use of a full stop when the sentence isn't finished.
Just useless over posting of aged un provable material.

Quote Matt . (regards me)
'So I had talk with David and cheered up. I have never been accused of being a disinformationist

[adurer]

wow... it looks like I've opened a can of worms...
may I suggest that instead of kicking each other's a$$ to read again my question? I've only got one reply so far and I will do my homework by checking on it.

my impression so far is there are researchers around the world that are using free energy devices to power their home, but nobody succeeded in building a free energy 'box' to run their car. those researchers are sick and tired of (by?) the reaction of authorities and scientific community, and they are also disgusted by the constant bickering on free energy forums (ehem)...

like so many times in the past, those inventors decided humanity is not prepared to embrace such gift and on second thought they don't even deserve it.

[boguslaw]

sadly there are laws which deeply hurt inventors disallowing them for example to run their cars on water or pure electric car or power your house and so one
I think a good start would be just one simple self-running device powering a LED. Just that and a proof it doesn't take energy from local radio station but here you see the problem...electronic components are mostly toys and such devices are on internet but due to many disinfo schematics nobody replicated them and saw what is the power source...

[cikljamas]

Hi guys, it has been a while since i wrote here lasta time...

Yesterday i have watched this movie: Collapse - Michael Ruppert - A must movie for the future - YouTube

It would be interesting to ask mr Michael Ruppert on whose side is he really on?

First of all i would like you to see this: Energy Is Not Conserved | Sean Carroll

Why Does Dark Energy Make the Universe Accelerate? | Sean Carroll

Then i invite you to watch this:
The Truth Behind The Energy Lie(What The Energy Cartels Don't Want You To See) full movie - YouTube
What Happened To This Invention???, page 1

and this:
Water Car Inventor Murdered - YouTube
Stanley Meyer Autopsy Report - YouTube
1993 Speech Stan Meyer Exposes One World Government - YouTube

The whole truth is here, you just have to own (use) your own mind in order to be able to dicern good from evil, truth from lies!

God bless you!

[Turion]

Hydrogen Technology Applications, Inc. - Home

[adurer]

I think a good start would be just one simple self-running device powering a LED.

from my understanding there are quite a few devices that already proved without a shadow of a doubt there is enough energy in the environment (aether, whatever) to get a COP > 1. in fact we knew that all the time, but we were too busy being blind.

I mean we see and accept that wind can push a sailboat without us moving a finger, we see and accept that sun can melt steel if focused or can charge batteries by using solar panels, we see and accept that hydroelectric power plants can power our houses. yeah, we need an initial investment to capture that energy from the environment (a ship, a mirror system, a bunch of solar cells, a dam, etc.) fact is that COP > 1 (often mistaken with overunity efficiency) was always with us.

but to be practical, a free energy device must meet 5 (five) conditions:
- to have a COP > 5
- to have a reasonable size
- to be built from readily available materials
- to employ a readily available technology of manufacturing
- to not have a prohibitive cost

this is where things get ugly. as if these 5 conditions were not difficult enough to meet, an inventor has to deal with a powerful opposition from the entire society. yes, not only vested interests try to discredit him, ruin him, intimidate him, hell... even kill him, but even the scientific community stumps on his work and calls him a fraud. isn't that enough reason to NOT have free energy devices on the market?

but wait, there's more, and I must say that pi$$es me off the most. there are a few in-the-know select researchers that 3-letter agencies serve them on a silver platter information on secret free energy technologies. in case you wonder where did they get that information from, here is where:
- from refused patents on the national security reason
- from threatened inventors that decide to sell their inventions
- from stolen inventions (ransack method) after the inventors pass away

so in order to evaluate the potential of those inventions, since they are not scientists (only spies, thieves and assassins) those 3-letter agencies come to those above mentioned researchers and ask them what they're good at. in exchange for their cooperation, those researchers are allowed to pass on to the rest of the world only breadcrumbs from what they found out for free. they claim it's their invention, they pose in heroes at biggest free energy conferences, they sell books, they have a captive group of fans. and they are on this forum.

[Turion]

Existing devices that meet these requirements

WaterFurnace Residential Product Line : 700A11

Stuff is already out there. It may not be what you are looking for or even expect, but it's there.

Dave

[Duncan]

sadly there are laws which deeply hurt inventors disallowing them for example to run their cars on water or pure electric car or power your house and so one
I think a good start would be just one simple self-running device powering a LED. Just that and a proof it doesn't take energy from local radio station but here you see the problem...electronic components are mostly toys and such devices are on internet but due to many disinfo schematics nobody replicated them and saw what is the power source...

There's the thing you see Boguslaw he's asked for lots of power Whats next rather depends on strong and weak points, a good mechanic or better on the electrical and electronic side of things For instance
If you happen to be mechanical I would suggest you verify this simple experiment

Attraction vs Repulsion in Magnetic Fields - YouTube

having done that the operation of this bike becomes clear

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_iWADEt4qm01G3xD73RzRBZhZhwj_W2rTHYyY9ci5pv7teDNx

there are quite a few of these machines operating in the USA, and Europe I would be inclined to contact one of the builders and go and watch one in operation if at all possible. I did open a thread on the issue but there were no takers only the expected cries of scam .. however it is clear that if identical magnets are stronger in attraction than repulsion the rest is engineering pure and simple.
The power available is very impressive having fitted all the usual nonsense, wind mills solar panels and all the rest of the normal commercial tat, this retreat high in the Alps finding its self still starved of power fitted one . Here shown on French TV

Nucl_aire_ou_nergie_libres_BOUGER_LA_VIE.flv - YouTube