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  • #31
    Originally posted by adurer View Post
    from my understanding there are quite a few devices that already proved without a shadow of a doubt there is enough energy in the environment (aether, whatever) to get a COP > 1. in fact we knew that all the time, but we were too busy being blind.

    I mean we see and accept that wind can push a sailboat without us moving a finger, we see and accept that sun can melt steel if focused or can charge batteries by using solar panels, we see and accept that hydroelectric power plants can power our houses. yeah, we need an initial investment to capture that energy from the environment (a ship, a mirror system, a bunch of solar cells, a dam, etc.) fact is that COP > 1 (often mistaken with overunity efficiency) was always with us.

    but to be practical, a free energy device must meet 5 (five) conditions:
    - to have a COP > 5
    - to have a reasonable size
    - to be built from readily available materials
    - to employ a readily available technology of manufacturing
    - to not have a prohibitive cost

    this is where things get ugly. as if these 5 conditions were not difficult enough to meet, an inventor has to deal with a powerful opposition from the entire society. yes, not only vested interests try to discredit him, ruin him, intimidate him, hell... even kill him, but even the scientific community stumps on his work and calls him a fraud. isn't that enough reason to NOT have free energy devices on the market?

    but wait, there's more, and I must say that pi$$es me off the most. there are a few in-the-know select researchers that 3-letter agencies serve them on a silver platter information on secret free energy technologies. in case you wonder where did they get that information from, here is where:
    - from refused patents on the national security reason
    - from threatened inventors that decide to sell their inventions
    - from stolen inventions (ransack method) after the inventors pass away

    so in order to evaluate the potential of those inventions, since they are not scientists (only spies, thieves and assassins) those 3-letter agencies come to those above mentioned researchers and ask them what they're good at. in exchange for their cooperation, those researchers are allowed to pass on to the rest of the world only breadcrumbs from what they found out for free. they claim it's their invention, they pose in heroes at biggest free energy conferences, they sell books, they have a captive group of fans. and they are on this forum.
    Hello Adurer,

    I know that my dear friend Matt wrote about my "Junk Motors"... ...but I am not going to promote them here to you...as He already did so well...

    I agree with your post, actually is excellent!...Just on the last part...:

    so in order to evaluate the potential of those inventions, since they are not scientists (only spies, thieves and assassins) those 3-letter agencies come to those above mentioned researchers and ask them what they're good at. in exchange for their cooperation, those researchers are allowed to pass on to the rest of the world only breadcrumbs from what they found out for free. they claim it's their invention, they pose in heroes at biggest free energy conferences, they sell books, they have a captive group of fans. and they are on this forum.
    Exactly the final part:

    ... and they are on this forum
    That is a serious statement there friend...could you please "expand" a bit more?...and hoping the "source" where you've got this info is good enough...


    Regards


    Ufopolitics
    Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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    • #32
      Hello Adurer, big cahoonas, please elaborate, on your revelations, as per UFO, i am all ears.!!

      Thanks, Cornboy.

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      • #33
        I am surprised you don't know who I'm talking about... but on second thought you were too busy researching and working hard in your labs like any other decent person.

        who knows everything (including non public personal data) on other free energy inventors for the last 35 years?
        who visited at home the most important ones?
        who sits on a pile of folders with sensitive scientific data and samples and when asked directly on video about the source he grins and says 'i can't tell you'?
        you have 3 guesses.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by adurer View Post
          I am surprised you don't know who I'm talking about... but on second thought you were too busy researching and working hard in your labs like any other decent person.

          who knows everything (including non public personal data) on other free energy inventors for the last 35 years?
          who visited at home the most important ones?
          who sits on a pile of folders with sensitive scientific data and samples and when asked directly on video about the source he grins and says 'i can't tell you'?
          you have 3 guesses.
          you can build with the least inconvenience to yourself,that is 1/ nice and small 2/ lots and lots of free power 3/ huge COP>1 4/ cheap as chips 5/ easy to knock up in the garage 6/ out of wallmart components
          well here's the problem explained in a very simple way by Mrs Hutchinson (Nee Nancy Lazaryan)
          from 7M20s to circa 11Min

          How to build a Hutchison Power Cell !!!! - YouTubeThe Jungle Book - I wanna be like you w/lyrics - YouTube

          There's a huge queue of devices and folks (and their families) over the best part of two hundred years more deserving than you or I will ever be . Your flighting your arrows the wrong way and that's probably well calculated too. The Henry T Morays and the Stan Mayers did these things and you well know it .. It's their rights and by extension our rights that are being trampled on. It seems as pure and simple as that to me .. doesn't it to you ? But then you have alterered the thread .. the stunning thing is your so self important you don't seem to realise it.
          Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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          • #35
            Practical?!

            Originally posted by adurer View Post
            but to be practical, a free energy device must meet 5 (five) conditions:
            - to have a COP > 5
            - to have a reasonable size
            - to be built from readily available materials
            - to employ a readily available technology of manufacturing
            - to not have a prohibitive cost

            this is where things get ugly. as if these 5 conditions were not difficult enough to meet, an inventor has to deal with a powerful opposition from the entire society. yes, not only vested interests try to discredit him, ruin him, intimidate him, hell... even kill him, but even the scientific community stumps on his work and calls him a fraud. isn't that enough reason to NOT have free energy devices on the market?
            COP >5 - BS, If the device needs 3kw and produces 4.5kw and will do so for 2hundred years then that is perfectly fine.
            Reasonable size - So how many watts per cubic foot are you talking about?.
            Available materials - Agreed.
            readily available technology of manufacturing - If you mean assembly line then no, any thing put into mass production is subject to being shut down.
            prohibitive cost - Duh, Cheap is good

            I don't believe it is that difficult. IF we endeavor to design devices with as many ready made pieces even if it entails a bit of loss. Yes, the first priority is to invent/re-invent something that works, and can change the world. But! How many will fall into the trap of claiming it for themselves instead of passing the knowledge directly to as many people as possible for production by the masses. I believe the biggest hurdle we face other than greed is that electricity and magnetism are both invisible and fault tolerant. As such we can have a device that is utterly ass backward and still gives us some of what we want, then we beat ourselves up when we can't improve it.

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            • #36
              @Duncan
              you forget something very important: nobody put a gun to the head of those who decided to be CIA, FBI, NSA scientific advisors. they did it at their own will. it's their own prison, they dug their own graves, they aren't by far victims. they wanted in for personal interests: fame, glory, money, etc. but even a kid knows once you're in, you can never get out.

              oh, and rest assured, nothing I wrote is off-topic.
              why we don't have free energy is related to everything I've put in this topic. it is your problem if you see it otherwise. you may be well intended but blinded by the "I want to believe in him" syndrome, or you may want to start intentionally a personal controversy with me in the most classical deceptive way known as "contradict to divide and conquer".

              if the latter, I will not fall for it and I invite all other members to do the same. do NOT respond to provocations, no matter how angry you may be when somebody contradicts you and accuse you in various way. those are deception techniques designed to destroy people's trust, to stop them sticking together behind the same goal. you are not obligated to convince anyone that your beliefs are correct! it is a waste of time and energy.

              this is another reason for why we don't have free energy. but united we will stand.

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              • #37
                Watch why We do not have FE...

                Free Energy - Pentagon Conspiracy to Cover up - YouTube

                Excellent video

                Bruce DePalma very loud and clear message to all of Us...


                Regards


                Ufopolitics
                Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                • #38
                  Well, there will always be guys like these-whose biggest achievement in their wasteful lives is to mocking real achievements of great men: Water Powered Car Inventor Stan Meyer Was Killed By The Illuminati - FACT! - YouTube

                  But, what is interesting is that in the same time, these same stupid individuals are not able to grasp the true meaning of this psychotic conference:
                  Psychotic apollo11 press conference RKO - YouTube

                  Well, let me help them a bit:




                  ApolloAnomaLies.com - Rebuttal of Windley's Photo "Analysis"

                  Another example of laughing at wrong thing:
                  ARK on Mt. Ararat: WHY the media BLACKOUT on the real history of Ararat? - YouTube

                  Well, laugh at this too:
                  Forum.hr - Pogledaj jedan post - Evolucija, evolucija s Bogom ili kreacionizam? (2. dio)
                  G.K. Chesterton: Darwinism is 'An attack upon thought itself'
                  Forum.hr - Pogledaj jedan post - Evolucija, evolucija s Bogom ili kreacionizam? (2. dio)

                  Laugh at this too:



                  And finally, laugh at this:
                  Stanley Meyers water powered car final report - YouTube
                  treason.tv | Water-fuel Inventor Killed?
                  Stanley Meyer’s water powered car | Fuel-Efficient-Vehicles.org
                  Dennis Klein’s Gas Engine Water additive | Fuel-Efficient-Vehicles.org

                  I hope, you have got the point...

                  Energy is about good and evil, everything is about good and evil, and everything in this post is about this topic (free energy) too...

                  God bless you!
                  "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
                    Well, there will always be guys like these-whose biggest achievement in their wasteful lives is to mocking real achievements of great men: Water Powered Car Inventor Stan Meyer Was Killed By The Illuminati - FACT! - YouTube

                    But, what is interesting is that in the same time, these same stupid individuals are not able to grasp the true meaning of this psychotic conference:
                    Psychotic apollo11 press conference RKO - YouTube

                    Well, let me help them a bit:




                    ApolloAnomaLies.com - Rebuttal of Windley's Photo "Analysis"

                    Another example of laughing at wrong thing:
                    ARK on Mt. Ararat: WHY the media BLACKOUT on the real history of Ararat? - YouTube

                    Well, laugh at this too:
                    Forum.hr - Pogledaj jedan post - Evolucija, evolucija s Bogom ili kreacionizam? (2. dio)
                    G.K. Chesterton: Darwinism is 'An attack upon thought itself'
                    Forum.hr - Pogledaj jedan post - Evolucija, evolucija s Bogom ili kreacionizam? (2. dio)

                    Laugh at this too:



                    And finally, laugh at this:
                    Stanley Meyers water powered car final report - YouTube
                    treason.tv | Water-fuel Inventor Killed?



                    I hope, you have got the point...

                    Energy is about good and evil, everything is about good and evil, and everything in this post is about this topic (free energy) too...

                    God bless you!
                    There is the change of topic you see !It isn't a case of does or doesn't free energy exsist .. I know it does .. but thats a different subject .
                    Its this attitude and the 'nothing' we all do about it .. thats why we don't have free energy.. we don't deserve it.

                    Opie & Anthony: Stan Meyer's Water Car - YouTube

                    and as you say .. yeah they are laughing, and we all let them! as you say its all about good .. and evil
                    Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Hrothgar View Post
                      COP >5 - BS, If the device needs 3kw and produces 4.5kw and will do so for 2hundred years then that is perfectly fine.
                      Your arrogance is bigger than your lack of knowledge. That is why you're talking so superficial and making over-simplifications about how easy it is to achieve great things in the free energy field. Let us know when you will build that device. Put your money where your mouth is! Let's see how full of generosity you'll be if you'll happen to discover anything real. Which I doubt very much.
                      Originally posted by Hrothgar View Post
                      Reasonable size - So how many watts per cubic foot are you talking about?
                      I see again the hastiness and over-simplification specific to narrow minded individuals. You'll know it when you'll build it. It's that simple, it is common sense. For instance, if you want to build a free energy engine for a car and you find it can be built the size of a barn, you'll know something is wrong. D'oh!

                      Bottom line: why is such a powerful campaign for free energy suppression? Because we're not talking about inventing the paperweight, we're talking about the biggest invention of all times that will allow humanity to enter a new stage of planetary and space civilization. According to vested interests, that should never happen and scientific progress was brought to a halt. They want energy to have a meter attached and we pay through our noses. Free energy is freedom, independence, wealth for everybody.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                        There is the change of topic you see !It isn't a case of does or doesn't free energy exsist .. I know it does .. but thats a different subject .
                        Its this attitude and the 'nothing' we all do about it .. thats why we don't have free energy.. we don't deserve it.

                        Opie & Anthony: Stan Meyer's Water Car - YouTube

                        and as you say .. yeah they are laughing, and we all let them! as you say its all about good .. and evil
                        Yes, we should organise ourself, but how?

                        See this:

                        Recite Al Jazeeri: Oliver Stone - YouTube
                        Recite Al Jazeeri: Oliver Stone - YouTube
                        Recite Al Jazeeri: Oliver Stone - YouTube

                        The question is: How to destroy CIA, KGB, MI6?

                        The only way is to telling the truth, is it not?

                        But now we have another problem: How to destroy CNN, BBC, etc.?

                        How to achieve real democracy in this world?
                        How to earn real freedom in this world?
                        How?

                        Lennox Vs. Dawkins Debate - Has Science Buried God? - YouTube
                        "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                        • #42
                          cikljamas, It's good to read you friend, I've missed you. Still got plenty of fight in you. Good to see.

                          All the best to you.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
                            Yes, we should organise ourself, but how?

                            The question is: How to destroy CIA, KGB, MI6?
                            Hello cikljamas,

                            The above "agencies" are just enforcement entities...just like "Police"...no need to destroy them...whenever their "Above Top Executives" collapse...they will automatically fall.

                            The only way is to telling the truth, is it not?
                            Definitively the Truth is the only way...but not only truth related to reveal their "Modum Operandi"...but another LETHAL Truth...

                            A Truth almost everybody here has been looking for...Eternal Energy...Free Energy...only one problem we have so far...We do not understand the "Basic Fundamental Principle" that rules ALL this machines, systems ...therefore, we all see them as an "Enigma"...a "Myth"...something we were told is impossible...and just by "accident" some of Us have stumbled...putting something together that actually does not understand in reality how it could achieve what we were told it could never do...

                            What if I told you that everything resumes/depends in a very tiny, and so simple basic principle...and the full understanding of it...will allow that anyone could be able to build/design as many different shapes...and sizes...and spec's... Free Energy Machines/Systems as they wanted to... limited only by their abilities to build...to construct something from scratch...?

                            They hided a very basic understanding of Magnetism, constraining/limiting it, as "inherent physical properties" ...so we could not "see" in the invisible, the "intangible"...then would never understand the direct relation, the means... in order to open the gates of Energy from our "intangible/invisible" environment...from everywhere on this Planet...anytime you please...for free, for ever.

                            But now we have another problem: How to destroy CNN, BBC, etc.?
                            Those are "Broadcasting Entities" that also obey commands from the Top Levels...so, once Top Levels collapse...all the rest will fall along...

                            How to achieve real democracy in this world?
                            How to earn real freedom in this world?
                            How?

                            Lennox Vs. Dawkins Debate - Has Science Buried God? - YouTube
                            We make our own Energy...We will make/establish our own Politics...

                            Revealing the Hidden Truth we all shall see the light...

                            "Blessed be those who believe, yet have not seen." - Jesus


                            Regards


                            Ufopolitics
                            Last edited by Ufopolitics; 01-30-2014, 03:55 AM.
                            Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                              They hided a very basic understanding of Magnetism, constraining/limiting it, as "inherent physical properties" ...so we could not "see" in the invisible, the "intangible"...then would never understand the direct relation, the means... in order to open the gates of Energy from our "intangible/invisible" environment...from everywhere on this Planet...anytime you please...for free, for ever.
                              So very true. It took me a while to escape the thick fog put into our brains from school. The physics we learned in school conditioned us to see from a very narrow perspective, to think on a very particular and artificial system. Think of how poisonous was for us to be indoctrinated only with mechanical or thermodynamical models that exclude the energy from the environment. Magnetism is a very special case because we were thought that magnets have a mysterious inner energy, when in fact they are matter in a special non-equilibrium state that allows the energy from the environment to manifest as we know. I see magnets as, more or less, natural extractors and concentrators of environment energy. If you think of Floyd Sweet experiments, he succeeded to stress magnets so hard that free energy started to 'pour' apparently from nowhere. His discovery was so important that the two hyenas (Bedini and Bearden) rushed to his house, documented everything on tape, gathered all information available then Sweet's invention was buried and labeled as dangerous.

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                              • #45
                                Spatial Energy Field Distortion...

                                Originally posted by adurer View Post
                                So very true. It took me a while to escape the thick fog put into our brains from school. The physics we learned in school conditioned us to see from a very narrow perspective, to think on a very particular and artificial system. Think of how poisonous was for us to be indoctrinated only with mechanical or thermodynamical models that exclude the energy from the environment. Magnetism is a very special case because we were thought that magnets have a mysterious inner energy, when in fact they are matter in a special non-equilibrium state that allows the energy from the environment to manifest as we know. I see magnets as, more or less, natural extractors and concentrators of environment energy. If you think of Floyd Sweet experiments, he succeeded to stress magnets so hard that free energy started to 'pour' apparently from nowhere. His discovery was so important that the two hyenas (Bedini and Bearden) rushed to his house, documented everything on tape, gathered all information available then Sweet's invention was buried and labeled as dangerous.


                                Exactly Adurer,

                                Now, here is where I believe is our "hidden reality"


                                Spatial Energy Field Distortion=Magnetism


                                The phenomenon of direct extraction of electrical energy from space has a simple explanation based on a re-interpretation of magnetism. Heretofore, it

                                has been believed that the magnetic field comes from the magnet
                                . The phenomenon of the magnetic field can also be explained by positing a primordial energy field,

                                which, in the first order is uniform and homogeneous. The highly anisotropic condition of the material of the magnet, if it be the permanent variety, or the condition

                                created by the passage of electric current through a solenoid, causes a distortion of the isotropic spatial field which we know as magnetism. Passing a conducting

                                wire through the spatial distortion adjacent to the pole of a magnet elicits the electric potential across the ends of the wire.


                                Field magnets in electric generators do not run down nor does more electrical excitation need to be applied no matter how much energy is being drawn from the

                                machine. This is because the generated electrical energy is being drawn from the spatial distortion created by the field magnets.



                                The drag and energy penalty of the conventional two piece induction electrical generator arises from the incomplete understanding of magnetism and the nature of the

                                magnetic field. If we accept the notion that all electricity generation arises from distortion of a primordial energy field than we could look to methods of creating the

                                appropriate distortion and concomitant energy generation without invoking Lenz's Law.





                                Regards


                                Ufopolitics
                                Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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