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  • #46
    Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
    cikljamas, It's good to read you friend, I've missed you. Still got plenty of fight in you. Good to see.

    All the best to you.
    Hi Farmhand, God bless you and your dearest, i hope there isn't going to be too much forest fires and/or floods there soon...

    Regarding plenty of fight in me, that is just the way how i send my condolences to those innocent men and women who suffered and still suffer terror and oppression which comes from new forms of gestapo (as Truman has been called his own outspring (CIA))...Famous People Killed By The Illuminati - YouTube

    Even Tesla maybe didn't die naturally, Mayer has been murdered for sure, others has been intimidated or corrupt, and Rockefeller's reign of megacorporation-terror is still ongoing...

    Oil is their holy grail, but oil is not anything else but simbol for money and greed...

    And we don't really need to fight CIA, KGB, MI6, what we really have to fight is greed in ourselves...

    Greed is the real reason for our misery, who still remember Tesla's generosity towards Westinghouse?

    Reflections on the Mind of Nikola Tesla

    Yes, Tesla could not save the rest of the world from moral corruption and selfishness (J.P.Morgan), Mayer could not save the world, and waiting new Tesla or new Mayer is really "pain in the brain" because we already know it wont help us anyhow. Before we could really change the world we should first change our mind and our philosophy (morality) of life, otherwise it is not going to work...

    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    Hello cikljamas,

    The above "agencies" are just enforcement entities...just like "Police"...no need to destroy them...whenever their "Above Top Executives" collapse...they will automatically fall.



    Definitively the Truth is the only way...but not only truth related to reveal their "Modum Operandi"...but another LETHAL Truth...

    A Truth almost everybody here has been looking for...Eternal Energy...Free Energy...only one problem we have so far...We do not understand the "Basic Fundamental Principle" that rules ALL this machines, systems ...therefore, we all see them as an "Enigma"...a "Myth"...something we were told is impossible...and just by "accident" some of Us have stumbled...putting something together that actually does not understand in reality how it could achieve what we were told it could never do...

    What if I told you that everything resumes/depends in a very tiny, and so simple basic principle...and the full understanding of it...will allow that anyone could be able to build/design as many different shapes...and sizes...and spec's... Free Energy Machines/Systems as they wanted to... limited only by their abilities to build...to construct something from scratch...?

    They hided a very basic understanding of Magnetism, constraining/limiting it, as "inherent physical properties" ...so we could not "see" in the invisible, the "intangible"...then would never understand the direct relation, the means... in order to open the gates of Energy from our "intangible/invisible" environment...from everywhere on this Planet...anytime you please...for free, for ever.



    Those are "Broadcasting Entities" that also obey commands from the Top Levels...so, once Top Levels collapse...all the rest will fall along...



    We make our own Energy...We will make/establish our own Politics...

    Revealing the Hidden Truth we all shall see the light...

    "Blessed be those who believe, yet have not seen." - Jesus


    Regards


    Ufopolitics
    :top:

    Yes, you are right, what i really have meant by the word "destroying" was in fact "transforming", "giving another meaning", "constraining", "puting borders around inappropriately overwhelming authorities of different agencies" an so on...

    Truman's True Warning on the CIA

    Regards!
    "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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    • #47
      @Ufopolitics
      usually it's a good idea to tell who you're quoting from. in your case Bruce DePalma.

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      • #49
        Originally posted by adurer View Post
        @Ufopolitics
        usually it's a good idea to tell who you're quoting from. in your case Bruce DePalma.
        Absolutely Adurer, we must credit the author...sorry that I forgot...

        The phenomenon of direct extraction of electrical energy from space has a simple explanation based on a re-interpretation of magnetism. Heretofore, it

        has been believed that the magnetic field comes from the magnet. The phenomenon of the magnetic field can also be explained by positing a primordial energy field,

        which, in the first order is uniform and homogeneous. The highly anisotropic condition of the material of the magnet, if it be the permanent variety, or the condition

        created by the passage of electric current through a solenoid, causes a distortion of the isotropic spatial field which we know as magnetism. Passing a conducting

        wire through the spatial distortion adjacent to the pole of a magnet elicits the electric potential across the ends of the wire.


        Field magnets in electric generators do not run down nor does more electrical excitation need to be applied no matter how much energy is being drawn from the

        machine. This is because the generated electrical energy is being drawn from the spatial distortion created by the field magnets.


        The drag and energy penalty of the conventional two piece induction electrical generator arises from the incomplete understanding of magnetism and the nature of the

        magnetic field. If we accept the notion that all electricity generation arises from distortion of a primordial energy field than we could look to methods of creating the

        appropriate distortion and concomitant energy generation without invoking Lenz's Law.


        Bruce DePalma
        The above text was extracted from the Sunburst N-Machine Papers at below link (please scroll down to find articles):

        Planetary Vision: April 2010

        Nikola Tesla also cited something similar...like an alignment of the space particles (atoms) surrounding the magnet or the electromagnet , considering in prior status this particles were randomly dispersed (not magnetically aligned) in space.

        According to my experiments both explanations about magnetism, (which are basically very similar) make me understand and explain many magnetic phenomenon I have observed.

        I have not finished testing the principles of the N-Machine from DePalma...however, it does makes a lot of sense to me that it should work according to what He explains as well as the work performed by Tewari.

        I just can say that we are completely lacking/missing the fundamental knowledge, when it comes to Magnetism.

        We can say even worst lack of knowledge about Gravity...

        Gravity could also be "included" in a type of "Spatial Distortion of the Space" theory...right?

        Both Fields of Science...Gravity and Magnetism are directly related to Free Energy...isn't that a coincidence that human kind lack so much knowledge after more than 2000 years being around and trying so hard to understand this Fields of Science we have not gotten anywhere?


        Regards


        Ufopolitics
        Last edited by Ufopolitics; 01-30-2014, 04:40 PM.
        Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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        • #50
          I am just curious about this: had Mayer been told (hypothetically speaking of course) that he was going to be murdered wouldn't he have published (publically announce in details) his marvelous deed, so that everyone could replicate his water powered engine, what do you think?
          "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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          • #51
            misinformation agent

            Originally posted by adurer View Post
            from my understanding there are quite a few devices that already proved without a shadow of a doubt there is enough energy in the environment (aether, whatever) to get a COP > 1. in fact we knew that all the time, but we were too busy being blind.
            You are obviously a misinformation agent and are also full of BS.

            Why don't you take your insults and ignorance and leave.

            What have you contributed to this field except for a few posts of ignorance in this thread?
            Last edited by Aaron; 02-02-2014, 06:18 AM.
            Sincerely,
            Aaron Murakami

            Books, Videos, ESTC Conference Info, Blog, etc. https://emediapress.com

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            • #52
              I have found the one religion!

              Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
              Well, there will always be guys like these-whose biggest achievement in their wasteful lives is to mocking real achievements of great men: Water Powered Car Inventor Stan Meyer Was Killed By The Illuminati - FACT! - YouTube

              But, what is interesting is that in the same time, these same stupid individuals are not able to grasp the true meaning of this psychotic conference:
              Psychotic apollo11 press conference RKO - YouTube

              Well, let me help them a bit:




              ApolloAnomaLies.com - Rebuttal of Windley's Photo "Analysis"

              Another example of laughing at wrong thing:
              ARK on Mt. Ararat: WHY the media BLACKOUT on the real history of Ararat? - YouTube

              Well, laugh at this too:
              Forum.hr - Pogledaj jedan post - Evolucija, evolucija s Bogom ili kreacionizam? (2. dio)
              G.K. Chesterton: Darwinism is 'An attack upon thought itself'
              Forum.hr - Pogledaj jedan post - Evolucija, evolucija s Bogom ili kreacionizam? (2. dio)

              Laugh at this too:



              And finally, laugh at this:
              Stanley Meyers water powered car final report - YouTube
              treason.tv | Water-fuel Inventor Killed?



              I hope, you have got the point...

              Energy is about good and evil, everything is about good and evil, and everything in this post is about this topic (free energy) too...

              God bless you!
              That one religion exalts three truths:
              1 God is great
              2 Beer is good
              3 People are crazy
              That's it!
              Everything else is for us to discover on our own.

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              • #53
                He who smelled it dealt it.

                Originally posted by adurer View Post
                Your arrogance is bigger than your lack of knowledge. That is why you're talking so superficial and making over-simplifications about how easy it is to achieve great things in the free energy field. Let us know when you will build that device. Put your money where your mouth is! Let's see how full of generosity you'll be if you'll happen to discover anything real. Which I doubt very much.

                I see again the hastiness and over-simplification specific to narrow minded individuals. You'll know it when you'll build it. It's that simple, it is common sense. For instance, if you want to build a free energy engine for a car and you find it can be built the size of a barn, you'll know something is wrong. D'oh!

                Bottom line: why is such a powerful campaign for free energy suppression? Because we're not talking about inventing the paperweight, we're talking about the biggest invention of all times that will allow humanity to enter a new stage of planetary and space civilization. According to vested interests, that should never happen and scientific progress was brought to a halt. They want energy to have a meter attached and we pay through our noses. Free energy is freedom, independence, wealth for everybody.
                Sorry to inform you that the word arrogance is like playing the race card, it's usually used by those who actually have the problem with it. I'm not being arrogant, I am acknowledging the great minds that have succeeded in invention yet fell to obscurity. As well as the great minds on these forums who wish to rediscover what was lost and discover things yet to be found, With dedication not only is it possible, it is inevitable.

                Your COP>5 was arbitrary, you're profiting as long as you can recycle output to the input and still have enough gain as to have your ROI better than your original power bill. In my previous example of squeezing 4.5kw out of 3kw if I recycle the output into the input I still have 1.5kw, say I live for another 30 years not assuming my power company raises it's rates I would save $45,000 if it costs me $5,000 to build and being a mere COP 1.5 flicks a $40,000 booger in the face of your argument.

                Watts per cu' is a real question that can be answered with a number & "big as a barn" is kinda retarded as an answer.
                Last edited by Hrothgar; 01-30-2014, 11:53 PM. Reason: grammer

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                • #54
                  Originally posted by Hrothgar View Post
                  That one religion exalts three truths:
                  1 God is great
                  2 Beer is good
                  3 People are crazy
                  That's it!
                  Everything else is for us to discover on our own.


                  Or we could say like this:

                  1 God is great
                  2 Water is good
                  3 Philosophy is not so complicatet as you think, and you think it is complicated because you are scared of it
                  4 Philosophy is meta-physis which means beyond or before physis
                  5 All the greatest physicist were deeply religious men
                  6 Science is not about certainty but philosophy is about certainty

                  Science is not about certainty: SCIENCE IS NOT ABOUT CERTAINTY: A PHILOSOPHY OF PHYSICS | Edge.org

                  Philosophy is about certainty: Hilbert's Hotel and Infinity - YouTube

                  Why is this important?

                  Let Einstein explain it to you with one short but deep in meaning sentence: "Science without Religion Is Lame, Religion without Science Is Blind"

                  If there is no God there is no morality too, and if there is no morality then you can be accommodated with injustice and terror like this one: 'America does not stand still and neither do I': Obama says he can move the ball forward with or without Congress, but his own wish list says otherwise | Mail Online
                  "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                  • #55
                    Devil in the details

                    Religion is to Enlightenment what paint by number is to art. Say you ask me what 2+2 is and I tell you 5. If you are unsure and keep looking until you discover 4 then you have found enlightenment, If you accept 5 and go on your way and defend the number five until the day you die then I would say religion is for you.
                    Last edited by Hrothgar; 01-31-2014, 02:29 AM. Reason: Removing redundent word

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                    • #56
                      The behavior displayed on this thread is precisely why there are not more alternative energy breakthroughs. It is likely many of us are just an arms length from breakthroughs, but we remain blinded by what we think we know.

                      Is it possible that each of us must pass a worthiness test before access is granted to the master stream of all solutions past, present and future?

                      Surely there are those currently in power, and it is well known that they will do about anything to maintain control. At the same time, if many of us went to their side of the fence - we would likely do exactly what they now do. So first, we must find a way to change our mindsets. Less about man, and more about mankind.

                      If we can do this successfully, we will over time lift ourselves out of the box of control and begin to build a world less about Me and more about We.

                      Note to self: As long as we remain alone and divided, we are easy to marginalize.

                      So that should be our first task. Learn how to communicate with each other by developing a new language with common meaning. So that we may join the speculation and research of countless perspectives, culminating in a resonance of purpose.

                      In my view, it all starts with being worthy civil souls... every time we post, each letter and word must hold that accountability. If not, well... ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

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                      • #57
                        Putting the cart before the horse

                        Mark Passio Has a take on the whole issue of free energy that should be taken in to account:

                        Free Energy - From Suppression To Manifestation? - YouTube

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                        • #58
                          Originally posted by MasterBlaster View Post
                          Mark Passio Has a take on the whole issue of free energy that should be taken in to account:

                          Free Energy - From Suppression To Manifestation? - YouTube
                          The FED Horse Problem

                          Vangelis - Memories of Green - YouTube

                          Windows on the World - Mary Sean Young Interview - Awakening - YouTube

                          Al

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                          • #59
                            Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                            You are obviously a misinformation agent and are also full of BS.

                            Why don't you take your insults and ignorance and leave.

                            What have you contributed to this field except for 16 posts of stupidity?
                            well, well, well... so finally you show what you're made of.
                            do you feel threatened or exposed in some way by my posts?
                            are you against the freedom of speech?
                            because all I see from your reply is a dictatorial, vulgar, low life outburst.
                            rest assured, the members of your forum are intelligent enough to discern what is true or false, good or bad from everything I posted.
                            some of them, bright guys I may add, don't share the same suburban view as yours on my replies.
                            you don't make them any service by censoring me. you banned many other members in the past for not meeting your agenda. but truth will prevail, people will see which one of us is the misinformation agent...
                            feel free to share your knowledge on misinformation techniques, because inadvertently you told us from your blunt opinion that you're an expert on the field.
                            bring your arguments and I will bring my documents on you and Peter.

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                            • #60
                              Give Peace a chance

                              Originally posted by MasterBlaster View Post
                              Mark Passio Has a take on the whole issue of free energy that should be taken in to account:

                              Free Energy - From Suppression To Manifestation? - YouTube
                              Universal Peace Covenant

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