Bedini SSG Machines

[Aaron]

Earth Battery SG thread started

Bodkins, see

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/2209-earth-battery-sg.html

[vzon17]

Bedini bike

Thank you for the warm welcome. My ideas are to use the lindemann motor as the assist and perhaps implement the bedini SG to help recharge will riding.

Thanks DJ.

Yeah I have been thinking along similar lines. I thought I would try putting some magnets inside a tire with a little silicon and the innner tube pressure would hold it in position real well. then have a coil on the frame. or if you had a good strong fender then one could have a series of coils along the inside of the fender to interact with the magnets in the tire. I havent thought out all the details yet but seems like if one could get some radiant energy going on a bike to charge the batteries and drive it forward that would be a beautiful thing. Get that all figured out and working and then do a car next.

[dmparr]

Yeah I have been thinking along similar lines. I thought I would try putting some magnets inside a tire with a little silicon and the innner tube pressure would hold it in position real well. then have a coil on the frame. or if you had a good strong fender then one could have a series of coils along the inside of the fender to interact with the magnets in the tire. I havent thought out all the details yet but seems like if one could get some radiant energy going on a bike to charge the batteries and drive it forward that would be a beautiful thing. Get that all figured out and working and then do a car next.

Well what would be ideal is something thats light weight (less then 500 lbs including driver) but inclosed enough that it could be driven in the rain or even the light snow I get here. Something like this might do the trick http://i.treehugger.com/images/2007-2-15/bugEV.jpg. Now I've done a lot of research on that little trike and they use what I believe is a rather large motor for something that small and light weight. So if the Lindemann atraction motor can produce enough power and torque and not draw as much as a standard DC electric motor then I believe it is possible to power this little contraption. Either way I believe it's atleast worth a look.

Now for the Bedini side of things I was thinking of a motor cycle brake rotor off a dirt bike or something of the like. You could place magnets around the edge of the rotor but on the face of the rotor, faceing inward. Thus allowing the batteries to recharge during freewheeling on the front wheels. Or as I read in another post about useing the custom wheels "spinners". If you could use a one way bearing on the front end with a bedini style rotor on it, only allowing the rotor to freewheel in one direction, IE forward. So when you accelerate your bike or trike the rotor would spin upto speed and free wheel. The problem with this from a design stand point is the heaver the rotor is the more momentum it would carry so it would freewheel longer. At the same time though the heavier the rotational mass the harder it is to accel upto speed, not to mention it's harder on the suspension as a whole. O one other problem with the "spinner" idea is that would act just like a gyro so it would be hard to turn, on the same note a wheel turning on a car acts like a gyro also so I don't know how much effect this would have.

Don't be afraid to give me your honest opinion on this matter as i'm not easily offended. Honest I'm not a looney toon

Ok I'll stop rambling on and on.

Thanks DJ.

[rickoff]

To vzon17 and dmparr:

Guys, have you seen the new post put up by Aaron about the electric bike?
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post22119
It is a conversion kit that replaces the front wheel of your bike with one that has a neodymium magnet, brushless motor hub. At the bottom of the Go-hub web page, you will see a gif image of the motor in rotation. It's basically a 3 phased Bedini machine. If this little motor will propel a person at 25 to 30 mph, think what a 14 inch motor version could do!

Happy motoring,

Rickoff

[vzon17]

bike motor

Guys, have you seen the new post put up by Aaron about the electric bike?
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post22119
It is a conversion kit that replaces the front wheel of your bike with one that has a neodymium magnet, brushless motor hub. At the bottom of the Go-hub web page, you will see a gif image of the motor in rotation. It's basically a 3 phased Bedini machine. If this little motor will propel a person at 25 to 30 mph, think what a 14 inch motor version could do!

Happy motoring,

Rickoff

Yeah I have seen that. I have been looking into those hub motors for a couple months I am saving up for one. I am working on rigging up some kind of radiant charger for the bike so it can charge the batteries while moving. maybe with magnets and coils on the spokes or something. now imagine an electric bike that you never have to charge the batteries. I was thinking of a big capacitor between the batteries and the motor so one could switch out the battries in intervals to charge them while the cap takes over driving the motor. Maybe have the timing load driven. more charging cycles at low loads and less at high loads. and continuos while coasting or going down hill. utilizing Tom Beardens free energy concepts.

[rickoff]

That's the stuff, Vzon. Go for it! And keep us posted, in this thread, on your concept and progress.

Happy biking,

Rickoff

[dambit]

Self oscillating ssg

Hi all,

Not sure if this should be in this thread so move it if need be.

I was running my ssg circuit last night when all of a sudden it stopped. I opened it up and found that one of the diodes had come off its solder point. I fixed it and when I hooked it all up it still wouldn't run. So, thinking that the problem was more serious I went ahead and started to test the components, but I forgot to take them out of circuit and when I put my multimeter across the 100ohm base resistor the coil started to self oscillate. It only does this when the meter is connected and set to the 200ohm selection. (it works at other settings but not as well). After some fiddeling around I got the oscillations stable at approximately 22.2KHz. (measured on the scope and very annoying sound. gives me a slight headache). Also the radient spikes at this frequency are about 70-80 volts. Thats the highest I can get them. I can get higher ones with my other coil, but it only oscillates at 10KHz.

Basically I'm after an answer as to whats happening and is it a good thing. It seems to be as it is drawing less from the primary batt (150mA) and is charging the other battery much faster. Also no need for magnets. I am running it like this with all the magnets removed and out of the way.

In the pic of the scope shot, the time dev is set to 50 micro seconds and the voltage dev is set to 5 volts per. Also with the multimeter, it only oscillates when the probes are connect in that way. It does not work reversed.

Cheers,

Steve.

[Aaron]

h wave

Hi Steve,

Is it oscillating with that H wave pattern or was that when it was running as an SSG?

[dambit]

Thats the H-wave when it is oscillating. Also the coil is south wound. Not sure if that matters as there are no magnets in this process.